Live Jasmin steals your members after 14 days? - GoFuckYourself.com

sexuallyhealed · 03-05-2008, 07:15 AM

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If you make a sale through your site you will get the sales amount %30.
We use a cookie-based tracking system. Payment cookies are not
overwritten until they expire. The members buy credit for private show,
but if he make more sales under the 14 days you'll get commission till
14 days with revshare program.

So they steal your member after 14 days? What kind of thievery is this?

Iron Fist · 03-05-2008, 07:18 AM

after that i assume the cookie expires? And then gets written again? unless they signup to the join page after 14 days?

justsexxx · 03-05-2008, 07:33 AM

When they say they work like this, it's not really stealing right?

pornguy · 03-05-2008, 07:36 AM

You just dont have to send traffic to them

Mutt · 03-05-2008, 07:45 AM

this was a huge controversy on here about 2 years ago - yes it sucks - dont send traffic to them, lots of other cam sites out there.

pornguy · 03-05-2008, 07:47 AM

Sned the traffic to me instead. ICQ me

Great cam program here

tranza · 03-05-2008, 07:49 AM

They clearly state this pretty much everywhere. I don't understand how that could ever be considered stealing.

brand0n · 03-05-2008, 07:49 AM

what cam program?
epiccams?

quantum-x · 03-05-2008, 07:52 AM

false drama.

teg0 · 03-05-2008, 07:56 AM

If its stated then you agree to it don't you?

respect · 03-05-2008, 07:56 AM

well it's not really stealing if they say this from the start ...2 weeks cookie indeed sucks but that's what awempire has to offer, try it, if not choose other program.
There are lots of other programs wich offer you real life time revshare .
I doubt they will convert as good as awempire but it really depends on your traffic .

GotGauge · 03-05-2008, 08:32 AM

All Affiliates earn 25% of what their referral spends for Life -- 5% webmaster referral

dstaff · 03-05-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GotGauge

All Affiliates earn 25% of what their referral spends for Life -- 5% webmaster referral

I was going to say..I used Livejasmin on my cam network and did great but HATED the 14 day cookie. Now I completely took them off and use sponsors like gotgauge mentioned and I'm make WAY more and the retention is golden...nuts to to livejasmin and the 14 day cookie.

JFK · 03-05-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x

false drama.

Totally,read the TOS and if you dont agree to it, move on to where you are happy

Bama · 03-05-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sexuallyhealed

So they steal your member after 14 days? What kind of thievery is this?

You're an idiot and should go on a 2 year vow of silence - taking notes from those who can speak and are smarter than you - and at this point, that's going to be just about everyone you hear talking or read what has been written...

1. They aren't "your" members. They are THEIR members. Until they signed up to THEIR website they were nothing more than a surfer and that includes any and all time spent on your site.

2. It's not stealing. They clearly state how they track and pay-out. You either agree to and send traffic under those terms or not - but again, I caution you to stop thinking as you're not very good at it.

If you expect to be paid above and beyond what they state they're willing to pay, then you should be tracking where the surfer came from prior to visiting your site and cut them a check. After all, they sent the surfer to you and by your flawed thought process, you are stealing from your link trades and SE placements.

And before you start trying to apply logic (which we've already established you're not capable of doing), and say that you have no such terms in place to agree to pay a percentage of your earned revenue to anyone sending you traffic.. it doesn't seem to matter.

Terms and Conditions, expressed, implied or otherwise don't seem to apply to you. You operate under the "I Think I'm Owed" clause....

So Pay Up Buster! You probably owe a lot of people by now......

commonsense · 03-05-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sexuallyhealed

So they steal your member after 14 days? What kind of thievery is this?

The only crime here is the assumption that all affiliate programs operate in the same fashion. Though not worded correctly, this thread is a good reminder about the policy of Live Jasmin even though they don't seem to be hurting for traffic or sales. Check out my sig, chances are you push at least one of those programs too.

Markul · 03-05-2008, 10:12 AM

Hmm I didn't know this, better test another one instead of them then...

Thanks for the headsup for those of us not paying enough attention when reading the TOS

Bama · 03-05-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

Why don't you try that theory out in a bank, go up to the teller and tell them you are going to take their money then proceed to take the money. Tell the cop that you weren't stealing because you clearly stated that you where going to take the money before you did it.

I see sexuallyhealed won't be alone is his sabbatical. The two of you can stare at each other in the silence of a logical world. That was a completely bone-headed attempt at making a point - and your pencil lead broke.

The customer doesn't dictate terms and conditions - the business does.

tehHinjew · 03-05-2008, 10:43 AM

i hate it but it makes me the most money

what can you do.. except come up with a class action law suit that claims they are stealing from us after 14 days?

commonsense · 03-05-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tehHinjew

i hate it but it makes me the most money

what can you do.. except come up with a class action law suit that claims they are stealing from us after 14 days?

Aren't they in Hungary or something? Good luck with all that

It's been said many times, if you don't like it don't promote them. Plenty of options in the cam niche, but don't go thinking all the other companies are saints

genoveze · 03-05-2008, 11:07 AM

there are tons of sites who pay your revshare for life

03-05-2008, 07:18 AM	#2
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	after that i assume the cookie expires? And then gets written again? unless they signup to the join page after 14 days? __________________ i like waffles

03-05-2008, 07:33 AM	#3
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	When they say they work like this, it's not really stealing right? __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

03-05-2008, 07:36 AM	#4
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03-05-2008, 07:45 AM	#5
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03-05-2008, 07:47 AM	#6
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03-05-2008, 07:49 AM	#7
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	They clearly state this pretty much everywhere. I don't understand how that could ever be considered stealing. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

03-05-2008, 07:49 AM	#8
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03-05-2008, 07:52 AM	#9
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03-05-2008, 07:56 AM	#10
teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,204	If its stated then you agree to it don't you?

03-05-2008, 07:56 AM	#11
respect Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 18,399	well it's not really stealing if they say this from the start ...2 weeks cookie indeed sucks but that's what awempire has to offer, try it, if not choose other program. There are lots of other programs wich offer you real life time revshare . I doubt they will convert as good as awempire but it really depends on your traffic .

03-05-2008, 08:32 AM	#12
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	All Affiliates earn 25% of what their referral spends for Life -- 5% webmaster referral __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

03-05-2008, 10:12 AM	#17
Markul Likes Pie Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn Posts: 12,401	Hmm I didn't know this, better test another one instead of them then... Thanks for the headsup for those of us not paying enough attention when reading the TOS

03-05-2008, 10:43 AM	#19
tehHinjew Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MTL Posts: 5,755	i hate it but it makes me the most money what can you do.. except come up with a class action law suit that claims they are stealing from us after 14 days? __________________ Hot Porn Wanna trade? email me at wanker (@) wanknation dot com

03-05-2008, 11:07 AM	#21
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