Kimbo Slice fight question for MMA fans - GoFuckYourself.com

Socks · 06-03-2008, 11:33 PM

Ok.

So that guys ear was fucked up, clearly.

It was so fucked up, that even before the fight started, it was floppy, almost detached from the inside it looked like. Never seen one so bad.

So A> What the fuck causes this? Is it something they get over time, and it just gets worse, or was it one gym incident, and needs time to go away or what?

B> Was it the right stoppage in this fight? Could he have safely continued?

jalami · 06-03-2008, 11:37 PM

It was a serious case of Cauliflower ear common among fighters and wrestlers. Its caused by your ear being a punching bag. You need to drain it and it usually involves cosmetic surgery to fix, but fighters wear it with pride.

pornask · 06-03-2008, 11:50 PM

Kimbo lost the fight in second, only ref didn't recognize it and allowed it to go until Kimbo was given a chance to recover. Colossus on the other hand has had bad luck with refs unfairly ending fights prematurely in his opponents favor. In fight against Butterbeam, it seemed just s though the ref made a bad decision to end the fight early. In fight with Kimbo, that was so rigged it's not even funny.

Socks · 06-03-2008, 11:51 PM

Yeah in any other fight it would have been stopped, I'm pretty sure the ref was given strict instructions to not stop it unless it was absolutely necessary. Seems like CBS is playing to the vulgarity a bit.

marketsmart · 06-03-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jalami

but fighters wear it with pride.

there is no sense to fix it until you quit fighting.. the only thing you can do is drain it...

since mma is getting so popular, i think maybe in the future they will figure something out to better protect the ears...

looks are one thing, but losing your hearing from repeated blows to the ears is something that should def raise some concerns...

arial · 06-03-2008, 11:57 PM

The fight should have been called in the second round when Kimbo got hit 20 something times in the head without putting up any defense. However EliteXC was all over hits nuts and Kimbo is their poster boy right now so of course they didn't call it. The fight wasn't called for the ear being popped it was called cause his opponent (cant remember his name) was phased with the combo of punches Slice landed at the beginning of the 3rd. It was prematurely called even though Kimbo probably would have knocked him out soon anyway. The fight seemed rigged and exposed Kimbo flaws as a MMA fighter hopefully he will improve and prove himself to be worthy of being considered a MMA fighter only time will tell.

Doctor Dre · 06-04-2008, 12:13 AM

Yeah but the ear got nothing to do with the stoppage... This was clearly fixed.

pamon · 06-04-2008, 01:32 AM

that ear was fucking nasty... never seen that before... pretty gruesome... watching it pop and bleed was fugly... kimbo was done in that fight when he got taken to the mat and was beaten down like the street thug that he is. Elite XC has got big $$ riding on his fat ass and it'll burn quickly... Put him against a "C" class UFC fighter and he goes down in 30 seconds... good brawler but horrible MMA & mat skills... IMHO

JustDaveXxx · 06-04-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jalami

It was a serious case of Cauliflower ear common among fighters and wrestlers. Its caused by your ear being a punching bag. You need to drain it and it usually involves cosmetic surgery to fix, but fighters wear it with pride.

Yup.. u specifically get it when u wrap your arms around 1 or both legs during take downs and or passing the guard using the leg wrap technique.

In september i will have been doing BJJ for 17 years. I managed to avoid cauliflower ear.

How?? I wore Wrestling head gear for the 1st 7 years of BJJ training. Then i changed my guard pass by bridging my head towards the legs when i wrapped them up for a controlled pass. That passing style hurt the other guy, give me better control when passing and kept my ears pretty.

Keep in mind when i pass, i'm on my feet with 1 or both legs wrapped up, bridging on my neck with all of my weight focused on the top side of my head, not the side of my face rubbing my ear. (if you roll u know what i am saying)

I have had the ear cartilage break and swell before (the start of cauliflower ear), but i would drain my ear with an 18 gauge needle and ice it that night.

Its funny because BJJ guys loved that look. It is equivalent to a pit bull get it ears cut short. It intimidates other fighters and BJJ guys.

People sometimes look at my ears and ask how are you a BJJ black belt???? My answer is "I am that fucking good!!" lol

I am not a bull shiter or a tough guy just a relayer of fact. If you have doubt in what i say check out who gave me my Black belt.. http://www.riganmachado.com/black_belts.asp

My Name is David Novigrod

Anthony · 06-04-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Yup.. u specifically get it when u wrap your arms around 1 or both legs during take downs and or passing the guard using the leg wrap technique.

In september i will have been doing BJJ for 17 years. I managed to avoid cauliflower ear.

How?? I wore Wrestling head gear for the 1st 7 years of BJJ training. Then i changed my guard pass by bridging my head towards the legs when i wrapped them up for a controlled pass. That passing style hurt the other guy, give me better control when passing and kept my ears pretty.

Keep in mind when i pass, i'm on my feet with 1 or both legs wrapped up, bridging on my neck with all of my weight focused on the top side of my head, not the side of my face rubbing my ear. (if you roll u know what i am saying)

I have had the ear cartilage break and swell before (the start of cauliflower ear), but i would drain my ear with an 18 gauge needle and ice it that night.

Its funny because BJJ guys loved that look. It is equivalent to a pit bull get it ears cut short. It intimidates other fighters and BJJ guys.

People sometimes look at my ears and ask how are you a BJJ black belt???? My answer is "I am that fucking good!!" lol

I am not a bull shiter or a tough guy just a relayer of fact. If you have doubt in what i say check out who gave me my Black belt.. http://www.riganmachado.com/black_belts.asp

My Name is David Novigrod

JustDave is 100% Legit BJJ Black Belt and Badass. Just by having lunch, and talking about my game, he was able to fix some flaws so well, my instructors asked me if I was taking private classes somewhere else!

Btw, this is what BAS had to say about the fight:

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as Rutten, Kimbo's trainer, former King of Pancrase, and UFC Champion made this statement:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/6/3/...ner-fight-shou

People ask me if the fight should have been stopped at the end in the second round, I say YES because those are the rules, it should have been stopped because Kimbo didn't do anything to improve his situation. But I think what made the ref NOT do it was the fact that Kimbo was giving his thumbs up the whole time to let the referee know that he was OK. This was the refs decission, not Kimbo's.

notoldschool · 06-04-2008, 10:48 AM

Im thinking that he was told to go in like that knowing this would happen. Any fighter that doesnt want to lose makes sure he doesnt take the chance by not draining his elephant ear.

Magnus · 06-04-2008, 11:57 AM

When I wrestled I would wear ear guards now and then to keep them off the mats.. hurts liek a mofo. That dude had the sickest case I have ever seen, it exploded.

Kimbo needs to get the ground game worked out but his stand up is deadly.

VeriSexy · 06-04-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Im thinking that he was told to go in like that knowing this would happen. Any fighter that doesnt want to lose makes sure he doesnt take the chance by not draining his elephant ear.

Must be.. if he drained his ear, there wouldn't be a stoppage

Anthony · 06-04-2008, 12:07 PM

Pay attention everyone...

MMA FIGHTS ARE NOT STOPPED FOR A BLEEDING EAR.

Socks · 06-04-2008, 02:51 PM

I'm pretty sure the ref stopped it because of the ear and not the punches. Either he was confused about what to do, or just so horrified he figured he had to call it.. But why not consult with a, you know.. doctor?

06-03-2008, 11:33 PM	#1
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Kimbo Slice fight question for MMA fans Ok. So that guys ear was fucked up, clearly. It was so fucked up, that even before the fight started, it was floppy, almost detached from the inside it looked like. Never seen one so bad. So A> What the fuck causes this? Is it something they get over time, and it just gets worse, or was it one gym incident, and needs time to go away or what? B> Was it the right stoppage in this fight? Could he have safely continued?

06-03-2008, 11:37 PM	#2
jalami Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 845	It was a serious case of Cauliflower ear common among fighters and wrestlers. Its caused by your ear being a punching bag. You need to drain it and it usually involves cosmetic surgery to fix, but fighters wear it with pride. __________________ IntegralPay LLC \| www.integralpay.com Payment solutions outside the box! Ask about credit card, electronic checks, and alternative payments processing

06-04-2008, 01:32 AM	#8
pamon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,110	that ear was fucking nasty... never seen that before... pretty gruesome... watching it pop and bleed was fugly... kimbo was done in that fight when he got taken to the mat and was beaten down like the street thug that he is. Elite XC has got big $$ riding on his fat ass and it'll burn quickly... Put him against a "C" class UFC fighter and he goes down in 30 seconds... good brawler but horrible MMA & mat skills... IMHO __________________ Email: [email protected] Skype: davidamodt. / TG: Davidamodt US Adult Content & Porn Writer Project/Sites/Tubes/Reviews & More

06-04-2008, 10:48 AM	#11
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	Im thinking that he was told to go in like that knowing this would happen. Any fighter that doesnt want to lose makes sure he doesnt take the chance by not draining his elephant ear. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

06-04-2008, 11:57 AM	#12
Magnus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontariariooooo Posts: 1,211	When I wrestled I would wear ear guards now and then to keep them off the mats.. hurts liek a mofo. That dude had the sickest case I have ever seen, it exploded. Kimbo needs to get the ground game worked out but his stand up is deadly. __________________ Magnus

06-03-2008, 11:50 PM	#3
pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	Kimbo lost the fight in second, only ref didn't recognize it and allowed it to go until Kimbo was given a chance to recover. Colossus on the other hand has had bad luck with refs unfairly ending fights prematurely in his opponents favor. In fight against Butterbeam, it seemed just s though the ref made a bad decision to end the fight early. In fight with Kimbo, that was so rigged it's not even funny.

06-03-2008, 11:51 PM	#4
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Yeah in any other fight it would have been stopped, I'm pretty sure the ref was given strict instructions to not stop it unless it was absolutely necessary. Seems like CBS is playing to the vulgarity a bit.

06-03-2008, 11:57 PM	#6
arial Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 4,012	The fight should have been called in the second round when Kimbo got hit 20 something times in the head without putting up any defense. However EliteXC was all over hits nuts and Kimbo is their poster boy right now so of course they didn't call it. The fight wasn't called for the ear being popped it was called cause his opponent (cant remember his name) was phased with the combo of punches Slice landed at the beginning of the 3rd. It was prematurely called even though Kimbo probably would have knocked him out soon anyway. The fight seemed rigged and exposed Kimbo flaws as a MMA fighter hopefully he will improve and prove himself to be worthy of being considered a MMA fighter only time will tell.

06-04-2008, 12:07 PM	#14
Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	Pay attention everyone... MMA FIGHTS ARE NOT STOPPED FOR A BLEEDING EAR. __________________

06-04-2008, 02:51 PM	#15
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	I'm pretty sure the ref stopped it because of the ear and not the punches. Either he was confused about what to do, or just so horrified he figured he had to call it.. But why not consult with a, you know.. doctor?