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Old 07-01-2008, 04:55 PM   #51
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:01 PM   #52
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Whats wrong with feeding a dog in your house? Are cats acceptable?

if i drink alcohol then i would feed dogs too if i like but i don't like feeding something like dogs inside, i fill uncomfortable and i think it should be better for health too
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Whoever you are AtlantisCash,
You've kept level posts against my rants against beliefs. It's great you're so in touch with your heritage and all that, however I have issues with that. I don't agree with "culture", "heritage" or whatever; in my mind, it's just another form of segregation.

I did try the post-whore posting mentality of being an asshole and you answered amiably. So thank you for that.

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since we turks are Turanoid/Altaic, My Ancestors wher Shamans and still Siberian Turks and Some of Our Mongol Siblings are Shamans, so if we'll count the time, we wher agnostic even 1000s years ago before Jesus, so, we wher the people who discovered modernity even 1000s years ago but we don't have right to believe it anymore for what You're saying, because it start from even 1000s years ago


Go figure about Tengrism bro then You will learn what my ancestors wher believeing
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Whoever you are AtlantisCash,
You've kept level posts against my rants against beliefs. It's great you're so in touch with your heritage and all that, however I have issues with that. I don't agree with "culture", "heritage" or whatever; in my mind, it's just another form of segregation.

I did try the post-whore posting mentality of being an asshole and you answered amiably. So thank you for that.

Thank You too, Actually i only wanted to say we are not middle eastern people, so my ancestors wher not mostly muslims when Holly Book Curran came to earth, anyway don't opses my post.

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wtf? I don't get it, I don't' see anything wrong with that ad..
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Thank You too, Actually i only wanted to say we are not middle eastern people, so my ancestors wher not mostly muslims when Holly Book Quran came to earth, anyway don't opses my post.

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I'd call it free speech. Everyone have right to express his opinion, and it should be acceptable, provided person/group is not getting violent.

I am amazed on all so-called free speech lovers posting in the thread with full of hate.

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PS: ENRAGED is how you feel.

"complaints" is written as "outrage" by the reporter, and "ENRAGED" by you.
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:51 PM   #59
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We have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of muslims in our cities here. When the first waves were coming, lots of white people were really mad that our country made changes to accept them into our society.

When I was little we said the lord's prayer in school - not allowed anymore. Hand on the bible. Things like that.

Everyone got mad that they were "changing our ways" blah blah blah.

They were changing the CHRISTIAN things.. Why should the Christians have a monopoly? Most of them really just want religion seperated from government, which I believe in.

As for the puppy, I agree that's taking it too far, but they have the right to complain, as do you, because your country allows freedom of speech (which we all hold very dear here, except maybe you jet because it doesn't affect you!)

In my eyes, the muslims, east indians, sikhs etc are just very smart! Nobody here wants to get involved in politics, nobody cares about voting, we just ignore that stuff.. Well, not them. They came here and saw that if they wanted things changed, they would have to change things themselves. They complained for a while, then got smart and started RUNNING FOR POLITICAL POSITIONS.

Since nobody here cared enough to notice, now our local public offices are mostly held by muslims, indians and sikhs, unless it's a very italian neighbourhood, or portugese etc. They stick with "their guy"

As far as I see it, they care more about Canada than we do - good for them!
Your post is full of contradictions. It's interesting that you find something wrong with white people complaining and wanting a monopoly, yet you don't have a problem with muslims, indians and sikhs doing essentially the same thing and sticking with 'their guy' to monopolize changes that suit them. Really, it's kind of pathetic.
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Isn't it funny that almost anyone you talk to is against this muslim "invasion" of Europe, but still it's going on all over the place..

So, if the people is against it, why is it happening and who controls this power?
It's called Zanu-EU. You know the same Zanu-EU that told Ireland to 'fix' the situation with the Lisbon treaty. It is HIGHLY unlikely that any change will come from within politics itself, the people now making the decisions in Zanu-EU are so far disconnected from the people want, and care so little, that nothing will happen. Once nations like France starting hitting the 25% Muslim population mark (which isn't too far off) I think you're more likely to see this whole thing cracking. It will take some major violence, riots, etc to get politicians to do anything. I'm not advocating it, but it will happen. Look what has happened in France, etc. I mean look what happened after Theo van Gogh was killed, how long did retaliations (burning Churches, than burning Mosques, etc) last? Weeks. One day in the not too distant future the retaliations very honestly won't end.
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Your post is full of contradictions. It's interesting that you find something wrong with white people complaining and wanting a monopoly, yet you don't have a problem with muslims, indians and sikhs doing essentially the same thing and sticking with 'their guy' to monopolize changes that suit them. Really, it's kind of pathetic.
you are right, now apply same logic on this matter.

Everyone here is finding something wrong with Muslims complaining about puppy, but none is finding something wrong with people complaining about "Muslim's complaining"?

Great world we live in..

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Your post is full of contradictions. It's interesting that you find something wrong with white people complaining and wanting a monopoly, yet you don't have a problem with muslims, indians and sikhs doing essentially the same thing and sticking with 'their guy' to monopolize changes that suit them. Really, it's kind of pathetic.
What I'm saying is that it seems white people complain - to each other. But they don't do anything about it! People whine about this and that, but they didn't show up to the city meetings, or anything else like it.. Plus their argument is what - to keep enforcing Christianity on Muslim people?

And I don't see the muslims asking us to say their prayers, or teach about Allah or the Qu'ran in our schools, or anything of that nature. They also don't complain about nationhood things like the flag, or about our laws, I mean it's really not as bad as people think.

Biggest issue here in years I can think of was when a Sikh police officer was conflicted over his turban and a police hat. White people were "outraged" as they say, because it's the uniform, and why should these people get an exception!!! lol.. Like they *REALLY* truly care about what a police officer wears or something.. Anyways now they just make them wear black turbans, with a police badge on the front.

It all comes down to free speech, and if the people in charge decide they have valid concerns, then that's their decision to make.

Plus I'm happy that these cultural groups fight for things that are important to them. That's how they really become part of our country and system. I truly believe they are making Canada better by changing our laws to suit their needs - because they are just as Canadian as I am, and my Canadian heritage goes back at least 6 generations.

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What I'm saying is that it seems white people complain - to each other. But they don't do anything about it! People whine about this and that, but they didn't show up to the city meetings, or anything else like it.. Plus their argument is what - to keep enforcing Christianity on Muslim people?

And I don't see the muslims asking us to say their prayers, or teach about Allah or the Qu'ran in our schools, or anything of that nature. They also don't complain about nationhood things like the flag, or about our laws, I mean it's really not as bad as people think.

Biggest issue here in years I can think of was when a Sikh police officer was conflicted over his turban and a police hat. White people were "outraged" as they say, because it's the uniform, and why should these people get an exception!!! lol.. Like they *REALLY* truly care about what a police officer wears or something.. Anyways now they just make them wear black turbans, with a police badge on the front.

It all comes down to free speech, and if the people in charge decide they have valid concerns, then that's their decision to make.

Plus I'm happy that these cultural groups fight for things that are important to them. That's how they really become part of our country and system. I truly believe they are making Canada better by changing our laws to suit their needs - because they are just as Canadian as I am, and my Canadian heritage goes back at least 6 generations.
You are naive though to the nature of Islam though. Listen I've been through the Middle-East, I've stayed in Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, etc etc, and I've met many nice Muslims, most of whom are quite moderate, not religious even (beyond observing the basic principals) and very friendly and nice people. In Australia I have quite a number of very good Muslim friends, some believers even, who I agree are no real threat. But than again that is due to the size of the Muslim population in Australia being so small. Europe is and will be a different story if the trends continue. If you seriously think you can have a population shift to Muslim majorities in European countries (which will happen, look on any Muslim forum - shiachat, aussiemuslims, etc) and you will see them celebrating the statistics which form that conclusion, without any major change you are simply retarded.

The nature of Islam that unlike Christianity is it isn't open to interpretation or any real change. Islam is a much more understandable and sensible religion than Christianity (at least in the sense it is a well written story). The people who believe it, truly believe it, and whilst there have been attempts to popularize a Western styled Islam it has failed because quite simply certain passages in the Koran are incompatible with Western society (let them tell you what they want to your face, but than ask the punishment for converting outside of religion and they will all admit that a person in an 'Islamic society' should be punished, and most scholars agree that the punishment is death), and Muslim believers quite simply won't go against passages that they believe are the direct word of God. In a sense all Muslim believers are fundamentalists, they have to be, or else they aren't believers at all.

I don't doubt a lot of this shit is sensationalized, such as the turban police office, or even this puppy. I think if you went to the Muslim community the majority of them really couldn't give a fuck, but as you say yourself it is the ones who participate that force the change and Islamic societies or communities that has usually, well almost always has been the religious ones. If Muslim peoples 'inherit' aka take over Europe or European countries things will change. Eurarbia is right.
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The part I don't understand is when the immigrant Muslim population wants to establish and enforce Sharia law in a host country. In essence they seem to want set up their own country within a country.....That makes no sense to me.
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How many British Muslims out of millions "enraged" by this ad?

For God's sake, shut up.

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I don't agree with "culture", "heritage" or whatever; in my mind, it's just another form of segregation.
What do you agree with?

Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot?
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Let me tell you something about muslims, I have been living in Indonesia for the past 2 years ok. Muslims in general are nice people but most of them are not clean. Allot of them live in slum areas here in Jakarta. they piss everywhere just like fuckin dogs do, they don't use toilet paper to whipe their asses. They fuckin spit everywhere. They fuckin throw their garbage everywhere. I walk beside a river & its fuckin black, stinky full of garbage. They just dont have any respect for the environment at all. They eat with their fuckin bare hands.

Did i forget anything?
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Let me tell you something about muslims, I have been living in Indonesia for the past 2 years ok. Muslims in general are nice people but most of them are not clean. Allot of them live in slum areas here in Jakarta. they piss everywhere just like fuckin dogs do, they don't use toilet paper to whipe their asses. They fuckin spit everywhere. They fuckin throw their garbage everywhere. I walk beside a river & its fuckin black, stinky full of garbage. They just dont have any respect for the environment at all. They eat with their fuckin bare hands.

Did i forget anything?

Have you seen Muslims doing this all over the world? Or just Indonesia?

I am pretty much sure this "respect for environment" have nothing to do with religion, it depends on many factors .. literacy rate, awareness, law enforcement, how rich a country is, etc.

Edit: In UK, CA, UAE and any developed country, Muslims are as clean and hygienic as any other religious group. I personally have seen this.
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This really gets to me , we allow them to build mosques in our country we allow them to preach thier religion in our country, now they are telling us what we can and cant do in our own country??

Well if they dont like our culture and our humour they can all fuck off back to where they came from. The goverment should tell them to shut up or put up. Its our country and if you dont like it then go some where else and preach your bullshit.
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How many British Muslims out of millions "enraged" by this ad?

For God's sake, shut up.

Considering a quarter of "BRITISH-MUSLIMS" find the London bombings justified, you might be surprised. Most of them don't know what to think, they are just the equivalent of ignorant hicks, who operate only on the basis of tribalism, and would go along with just about anything their religious leadership of tribal instincts tell them.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jun/05/religion.july7
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It's prolly the uneducated and Older generations that are making the stink...the better educated and more affluent don't waste their time protesting so you only here the cookoo's complaining.
it's mostly the younger generations causing all the sh*t...
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Heaven forbid that ad had been for an American police station, they would have used a pig.

I'm not insensitive. I know that in history, dogs would eat the dead. Certainly a bad omen. As a kid, I knew a lot of mormon children terrified of dogs (seriously, it was interesting to watch an 8 year old boy completely frightened out of his wits by a friendly 10 inch tall elderly mop dog).

But, there comes a time as an adult, where you've got to measure up and get over it.

Kudos to our Muslim friends on GFY who have the nerve and tollerance.
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I'd call it free speech. Everyone have right to express his opinion, and it should be acceptable, provided person/group is not getting violent.

I am amazed on all so-called free speech lovers posting in the thread with full of hate.

Hypocrisy is best policy ..
How about I come to your home, demand to fuck your wife and call it freedom of speech?


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How many British Muslims out of millions "enraged" by this ad?

For God's sake, shut up.
Enough "to have already pulled " the add .
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in Shafi sect Dogs are avoidable in some situations i think, but im from Hanefi/Maturidi Sect, so we don't avoid dogs as it.

i mean if im not wrong they say don't feed dogs inside of the house but normaly we have no problem with dogs except that.

One day, a dying dog approached a follower of Mohammed. The man had no means with which to procure water for the dog, for wells in the desert dry up quickly. He noticed a small pool of muddy water in the vicinity. He tore his shirt, soaked it in the water, placed the dog in his lap and moistened its mouth with the wet cloth. Another Arab who saw this went to the Prophet and said, "One of your followers has touched a filthy animal, a dog, and should therefore not be allowed back here again."
Mohammed questioned, "What was he doing to the dog ?"
"I do not know, but I saw him moistening its mouth with a torn piece of cloth dipped in muddy water," replied the man.
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How about I come to your home, demand to fuck your wife and call it freedom of speech?
What is your definition of freedom of speech? Or you are totally against it?


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This really gets to me , we allow them to build mosques in our country we allow them to preach thier religion in our country, now they are telling us what we can and cant do in our own country??

Well if they dont like our culture and our humour they can all fuck off back to where they came from. The goverment should tell them to shut up or put up. Its our country and if you dont like it then go some where else and preach your bullshit.
it's not "your" country more than it is "their" countrry
they are citiziens just like you.
YOU are the one with the problem with muslims so why don't YOU leave
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it's not "your" country more than it is "their" countrry
they are citiziens just like you.
YOU are the one with the problem with muslims so why don't YOU leave
I beg your pardon

My for fathers fought in wars and died for this country. I pay taxes like all of my family before me have, to live in an English country. I have no problem with muslims but I have a problem when muslims come into our country and tell our goverment how to run our country because of thier relgion and I would be exactly the same be it somebody from Poland or the USA or anybody else. If anbody goes to any country and becomes a citizen and ends up having a family they should abide by that countrys laws, traditions and relgions. I would not dream of going to settle in a foreign country and say things like "It is against my relgion to show your ass" so please stop it. So dont fucking tell me to leave my own country you idiot
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Old 07-02-2008, 04:25 AM   #85
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Imagine I left Scotland to go live in a country and then complained about things they did which upset me? Do you think it would get this sort of press? I doubt it. I fail to see how a cute puppy in a Police Mans hat can cause offence. I blame our press association for blowing it all out of proportion. Its all over the daily newspapers here today. Makes ya kinda angry to read it... Seems immigrants in MY own country have more power than I do these days.
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I don't think there's something wrong with the picture. Im not a muslim though.

Here's a good one from Andrew Blake
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britain is too soft trying to pander to all minority religions
fuck all of them
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I love to see no one is seeing this as free speech? so, what exactly is free speech? what if a native British Muslim complains, who is living there by 2nd of may be 3rd generation? What is a converted British Muslim complains about it?

Any of the gfy philosophers, kindly enlighten me.
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what if a native British Muslim complains, who is living there by 2nd of may be 3rd generation?...
it seems to me that 'British' traditions go back considerably further than a mere 2 or 3 generations. I don't understand why it seems difficult for some people to realize that a country's inhabitants would seek to preserve their cultural identity, especially when it's been developed over 1000's of years and is enshrined in everything from their architecture to their folklore to their traditional government and nearly every other aspect of their life.

whether another group comes marching in with weaponry first and then seeks to change things or slips in via lax immigration laws and then seeks to change things, their goal is the same - to forever alter the way of life of the existing inhabitants. if the inhabitants value their way of life then they'll take steps to deter events such as that from happening.
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so when is the next big religious war...this is all leading up to it
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"The advert has upset Muslims because dogs are considered ritually unclean and has sparked such anger that some shopkeepers in Dundee have refused to display the advert."
My question now is, are those shopkeepers themselves Muslim, or are they Brit business owners who are afraid to put up the sign for fear that the outraged muslims will throw rocks through their windows and harrass their families etc.

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I don't think there's something wrong with the picture. Im not a muslim though.

Here's a good one from Andrew Blake
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To be honest, this sums up Britain today !

It's a joke of a country. And it's getting worse.



RIP "Great Britain"
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It's prolly the uneducated and Older generations that are making the stink...the better educated and more affluent don't waste their time protesting so you only here the cookoo's complaining.
That's what I tend to belive.
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Cry me a river, it is a freakin dog. Now if it was a giant pussy or penis ontop of the hat I could see a reason to complain. This is just plain silly. It must be a joke
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Now if it was a giant pussy or penis ontop of the hat I could see a reason to complain. This is just plain silly. It must be a joke
I don't see anything wrong with giant pussy or penis. Now what? Should I call you moron, scumbag, idiot, silly, retard?

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LOL !!

I just posted that story on another board (uk) and it just got deleted...
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here's the picture in question:





That article made me absolutely furious.

Filthy, unlcean Muslims invade a country and then protest about everything that is not For Them and About Them.

"Mohammed Asif" of Dundee... how awful that Dundee has to put up with people with names like that.

Hey, Mohammed, the puppy is a SCOTTISH terrier and has a longer ancestory in the country than you ever will.
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I beg your pardon

My for fathers fought in wars and died for this country. I pay taxes like all of my family before me have, to live in an English country. I have no problem with muslims but I have a problem when muslims come into our country and tell our goverment how to run our country because of thier relgion and I would be exactly the same be it somebody from Poland or the USA or anybody else. If anbody goes to any country and becomes a citizen and ends up having a family they should abide by that countrys laws, traditions and relgions. I would not dream of going to settle in a foreign country and say things like "It is against my relgion to show your ass" so please stop it. So dont fucking tell me to leave my own country you idiot
You do realize that your "for fathers" would probably come to your hanging with a pitchfork raised high, because of what you do for a living?

People change, countries change. People change countries. In Canada we've seen many waves of immigration from different parts of the world throughout history, and every one of them has changed things here.

Laws are made for the times, and also must change as society progresses. Why should they not have the same rights to complain and change the laws as they see fit? You have the same rights!! Are there no laws you disagree with? Do you just blindly follow them, even when you disagree with them?

Never forget what a small window of time you live in. The world and land we call "ours" is just a facade. We are here for a small time, and then we pass on. Billions of people before us called this land "theirs" and now it's "ours" for a small time. Dust to dust right? It's completely silly to think you have more say because of seniority or something. If someone is complaining and wanting to change things in a way you disagree with, then by all means - attend your city council meetings, write letters to politicians, get interviewed in the local newspaper. - no fun, right?

I don't understand the alternative.. Have city council meetings that say - NO MUSLIMS ALLOWED! ?

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PS: Speaking of England.. If you wanna see a fucked up history, look no further.. 2,000 years of ridiculous monarchy and religious wars, and people are concerned their country is falling apart because some muslims are complaining and changing laws - legally?

And people are concerned about VIOLENCE? bwahahhahahhaahahaha.. Come onnnnnnnnn.. England has rivers of blood flowing from wars gone by, because some prince married a girl from a family he wasn't supposed to, or didn't send enough tribute, etc etc..
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