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Old 08-18-2008, 06:55 AM   #51
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:57 AM   #52
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The Chinese will run the world someday. Maybe in our lifetime. Get used to it. Have your kids start learning Mandarin today, they are gonna need it!!!!!
Can you imagine how repressed the world would be if that happened?
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Those children most likely eat better than some of the richest people in their country. They also most likely get a better education than most. It is the price they pay, and those that win the gold will be recognized for the rest of their lives.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:06 AM   #54
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Can you imagine how repressed the world would be if that happened?
There is no "if" to it. It's going to happen.

Who do you think the USA borrows almost all of it's money from? Who do you think is investing into the the USA more than any other country? One guess.

China is doing the same all over the world right now. They loan to countries in need and invest into everything they can get their hands in. They also supply the majority of the world with every kind of import you can think of. Go around your house and start looking at where day to day items were made. Most of them will be from China.

I'm telling ya, make your kids learn Mandarin (hell Cantonese too!). Laugh at me now, but thank me in 20 years when your kid has a kick as job, as he can communicate with the Chinese and be a huge asset to any major company, if not own his own.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:13 AM   #55
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There is no "if" to it. It's going to happen.

Who do you think the USA borrows almost all of it's money from? Who do you think is investing into the the USA more than any other country? One guess.

China is doing the same all over the world right now. They loan to countries in need and invest into everything they can get their hands in. They also supply the majority of the world with every kind of import you can think of. Go around your house and start looking at where day to day items were made. Most of them will be from China.

I'm telling ya, make your kids learn Mandarin (hell Cantonese too!). Laugh at me now, but thank me in 20 years when your kid has a kick as job, as he can communicate with the Chinese and be a huge asset to any major company, if not own his own.
Why do so many chinese want to immigrate to canada and the us? The only reason so much stuff is made in china is because they basically have no labor or enviromental laws so its dirt cheap to make crap. The vast majority of chinese have nothing, they are so poor they sell their children.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:20 AM   #56
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Why do so many chinese want to immigrate to canada and the us? The only reason so much stuff is made in china is because they basically have no labor or enviromental laws so its dirt cheap to make crap. The vast majority of chinese have nothing, they are so poor they sell their children.
There is no argument there. But that doesn't change the fact. And that fact is, the Chinese who are running shit, are stopping at nothing. The have the funds, they make the loans, they bail out the countries most of us live in. That's just a hard cold fact.

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The only reason so much stuff is made in china is because they basically have no labor or enviromental laws so its dirt cheap to make crap. The vast majority of chinese have nothing, they are so poor they sell their children.
It also doesn't change the fact that the "crap" they make is consumed by every country in the world, with no plans to slow down in the future.

The western world breeds people who consume, China breeds people who fulfill that demand.
It's that old "supply and demand" chestnut.
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There is no argument there. But that doesn't change the fact. And that fact is, the Chinese who are running shit, are stopping at nothing. The have the funds, they make the loans, they bail out the countries most of us live in. That's just a hard cold fact.



It also doesn't change the fact that the "crap" they make is consumed by every country in the world, with no plans to slow down in the future.

The western world breeds people who consume, China breeds people who fulfill that demand.
It's that old "supply and demand" chestnut.
True but as they acquire more wealth more of the people will want better wages, better living conditions ect and the cycle will start all over again. Not to mention the west won't be consuming much if china "takes over the world". Personally when i see china i see a huge step backwards in pretty much everything, especially personal freedoms and just the outlook to human life in general. They have killed so many female babies that there is such a huge male population compared to female, you got guys going crazy and carrying real dolls around with them. Theres just so much fucked up over there. Not to say the west is perfect, far from it but at least I feel mostly free here.
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Personally when i see china i see a huge step backwards in pretty much everything, especially personal freedoms and just the outlook to human life in general. They have killed so many female babies that there is such a huge male population compared to female, you got guys going crazy and carrying real dolls around with them. Theres just so much fucked up over there. Not to say the west is perfect, far from it but at least I feel mostly free here.
I'm no fan of China, don't get me wrong. I think they violate human rights any chance they get.
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so how is the USA doing in the Olympics again?

See in america we have a choice of what we want to do. Most cannot understand it because
1: we would never treat our children like that
2: because we CHOOSE not to do it.

America did not start off where we are at now, we are a young country compared to Asia, Europe and the middle east. There is nothing stopping other countries from achieving what the US has except themselves.


What are you talking about? You never heard of Child Labor laws? They were passed because children were being worked right here in the united states....And before that, slaves....

Do not speak of what you know nothing about....
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:34 AM   #61
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And both countries own their citizens. What's the difference?
I guess we have a difference of opinion. I am not owned by my country, I still walk around a free WOman and pretty much do as I please. Give examples of ownership..please
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:37 AM   #62
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I'm wondering if the featured little girl, the one with horizontal stripes will participate (at least) near an international contest like the Olympics... if the freakin' "beloved" Party will "allow" her to join.... that, if she will behave...
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:49 PM   #63
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:21 PM   #65
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Incredible video and so sad... but this is how all gymnast's train ..
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I am not owned by my country, I still walk around a free WOman and pretty much do as I please. Give examples of ownership..please
Sadly we are all owned by our countries in one form or another.

What country do you live in? I'm going to assume you are from the USA. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I'll use excessive income tax to start. If you are American, you do not have an option to not pay this. Not even if you move out of the USA and work abroad, you STILL have to pay your tax even though you don't live there. Even if you NEVER go back to the USA, they still demand you pay them. That is ownership. You don't have a choice to pay your hard earned money into a system that borrowed money and your taxes are just paying of their interest on that debt. You are also forced to pay tax on the profits of YOUR investments. They even tax you when you die. You don't have a choice in the matter. They even tell you what percent you have to pay them.

Social Security Number. All Americans are forced to have one. You can not function without one. Some call this slave number. Whatever you call it, it is unique to the USA and shows ownership over you. It is of no real use other than to track everything about you and everything you own. You can't even open a bank account without one. Why would a bank need this number? To help the IRS and government track you. Do you know that now if you refuse to list your social security number on your passport application, you get fined $500 from the IRS? Why would they do that?

Freedom of travel. Check out your passport and check out the list of countries you are forbidden to travel to. Why is that? That country didn't do anything to you. In fact, I've been to almost all of those countries and they welcome us with open arms. But why can you be put in jail for several years and face $7000+ in fines for going there? Because they own you and they tell you where you can and can not go. If they didn't own you, how could they tell you where you couldn't go?

Go to the bank and deposit $10,000 in cash into an account. Or go buy a car over $10,000 and pay cash. You will be forced to fill out a form that the government and the IRS demands from you. It's YOUR bank account. It's YOUR car. Why should you have to fill out any extra forms just because you paid cash? Put your foot down and demand that you will not fill it out. Let me know how it turns out.

When you don't have a choice in the matter, that is called OWNED. Call it what you want, but it is what it is. Not that it's a bad thing, I'm just pointing it out because you asked me to.

And to comment on how you can walk around and do what you please. Then do this for me... Tonight, get 4 or 5 friends and a bunch of beer (or none at all), grab some guitars or bongos and sit out front of your house and play music and sing songs until sun rise. Just sit there and celebrate life and sing about until the day break comes. Depending on where you live, the cops will be called and you will be forced to stop, with or without booze. Even on your own property chances are you will be asked to stop, depending on your location.

I can go on for days on this with little examples if you wish.
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What are you talking about? You never heard of Child Labor laws? They were passed because children were being worked right here in the united states....And before that, slaves....

Do not speak of what you know nothing about....
Spot fucking on.

And lets not forget many of the large corporations who outsourced their manufacturing to developing countries who hire children and force them to work 18 hour days with no days off.

Pretty much each and every one of us own some clothes or furniture made in a developing country that was made by a child. Yet, we do not research the products we buy, nor do we want to know the true horrors of it. But when someone else gets exposed for such things, it's horrible. How could they?

I know several people here in Thailand who worked for clothes companies when they were children. Most of them started around the ages of 10 - 13 years old. They ALL said they worked for companies that made clothes for USA. Go figure.
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