Who Makes More? Site Owners or Affiliates? - GoFuckYourself.com

mahoney · 08-17-2008, 12:15 AM

I have heard both sides of this argument but it's been a few years...
What say you?

BV · 08-17-2008, 01:22 AM

some site owners make more than some affiliates and some affiliates make more than some site owners

i'm pretty sure i have quite a few affiliates that make more than i do

fallenmuffin · 08-17-2008, 02:02 AM

Site owners differently have a leg up but they're overhead is insane. Dedicated servers, bandwidth, content, designs, video editing and formatting, etc. etc.

With an affiliate $19.95/mo for hosting and you can make unlimited income.

It just depends on the person.

mahoney · 08-17-2008, 02:02 AM

yeah...but it's almost like a Casino ...right? Isn't the "house" always supposed to win?

blademaster16 · 08-17-2008, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Site owners differently have a leg up but they're overhead is insane. Dedicated servers, bandwidth, content, designs, video editing and formatting, etc. etc.

With an affiliate $19.95/mo for hosting and you can make unlimited income.

It just depends on the person.

Agree

seeandsee · 08-17-2008, 02:15 AM

In global owner makes more when he collect $$$ form every affiliate.

mahoney · 08-17-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

In global owner makes more when he collect $$$ form every affiliate.

can you say that in English?

plsureking · 08-17-2008, 02:23 AM

yea paysite overhead is crazy.
affiliates usually earn half for not doing much.
(compared to the work of the site owner)

a smart hard working affiliate
with a background in marketing
and that wants to do more than just
copy everyone else will make bank.

look at the hun.
one of the web's first millionaires.
didnt own any pay sites..

fallenmuffin · 08-17-2008, 02:34 AM

A better question is how much is the average paysite owner profiting monthly? I'm not talking the mega networks but the average ccbill or small paysite owner?

GigoloShawn · 08-17-2008, 02:37 AM

Aggregate? The Affiliates. Invariably. Fallenmuffin has nailed it on the head.

fastboy · 08-17-2008, 05:23 AM

this is really interesting question, bump for more opinions

The Duck · 08-17-2008, 05:31 AM

Impossible to say.

GetSCORECash · 08-17-2008, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Site owners differently have a leg up but they're overhead is insane. Dedicated servers, bandwidth, content, designs, video editing and formatting, etc. etc.

With an affiliate $19.95/mo for hosting and you can make unlimited income.

It just depends on the person.

The Big Affiliates have servers, pay for bandwidth, design, video editing and formatting. Not at the scale of the site owners, but they put in a lot of work.

They even have staff...!

Klen · 08-17-2008, 07:24 AM

Site owners in mosts cases.

IllTestYourGirls · 08-17-2008, 07:34 AM

like everything "it depends" some make more some dont. many programs start and fail, many affiliates start and fail.

BVF · 08-17-2008, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

A better question is how much is the average paysite owner profiting monthly? I'm not talking the mega networks but the average ccbill or small paysite owner?

What matters is what YOU make.....I don't give a fuck how much someone else makes.....

notoldschool · 08-17-2008, 09:08 AM

Most site owners worth a salt are affiliates as well.

Lykos · 08-17-2008, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

some site owners make more than some affiliates and some affiliates make more than some site owners

i'm pretty sure i have quite a few affiliates that make more than i do

Very good answer

woj · 08-17-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

some site owners make more than some affiliates and some affiliates make more than some site owners

i'm pretty sure i have quite a few affiliates that make more than i do

gleem · 08-17-2008, 11:27 AM

well since I am my own biggest affiliate, I get the best of both worlds

LeRoy · 08-17-2008, 11:36 AM

I would have to say. Paysite owners.

Sales without refcodes come in. So they go to the house account.

bbm · 08-17-2008, 11:46 AM

Site owners get 50% share minimum, affiliates get much less

VicD · 08-17-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kandah

Impossible to say.

I agree on that

mx8829 · 08-17-2008, 11:56 AM

site owners

Zuzana Designs · 08-17-2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

What matters is what YOU make.....I don't give a fuck how much someone else makes.....

Well said !!!!!

Jensen · 08-17-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bbm

Site owners get 50% share minimum, affiliates get much less

You mean that the other way round right? Affiliates get 50% share minimum and owners have to pay everything from content to processing fees..

BV · 08-17-2008, 12:28 PM

it doesn't take rocket science to figure out that site owners make less per transaction than the affiliate that sent the sale

and on the same token it's very easy to figure out that some affiliates that send me a few sales a every day also send a few sales every day to a 100 other programs.

these affiliates run big link lists tgps review sites etc etc.... and are the 10% of your affiliate base that makes 90% of your sales

Cherry7 · 08-17-2008, 12:43 PM

Our affiliates have a good deal...50% of the cash and we pay for everything else from making the movies to the hosting....

But the more affiliates we get the unit costs go down so at a certain point it can be profitable.

The problem for the affiliates is how they generate the traffic to send and how they keep their visitors happy without spending too much on content....

The sites that were first on the block have the upper hand

polle54 · 08-17-2008, 01:03 PM

there are more affiliates than there are owners.

Owners earn a lot more in a global perspective. However some affiliates do quite well for themselves

fuzebox · 08-17-2008, 01:07 PM

How long is a piece of string?

BSleazy · 08-17-2008, 01:41 PM

The bigger well known pay sites I'm sure get TONS of type ins and se traffic. I'm betting there's lots of errors and cookie deleting type things where the affiliates lose out on sales too. Affiliate code tracking isn't going to work 100% of the time.

Cherry7 · 08-18-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BCyber

The bigger well known pay sites I'm sure get TONS of type ins and se traffic. I'm betting there's lots of errors and cookie deleting type things where the affiliates lose out on sales too. Affiliate code tracking isn't going to work 100% of the time.

The cookies are valid for 3 days... and it takes a long time to get SE traffic in such a competative market... I think very few get lost...

Of course a lot of punters bookmark and come back months later....but on the other hand affiliates get 50% of rebill too..

So I think they get a pretty good deal....

Pornopat · 08-18-2008, 11:06 AM

The top earners are the smart paysites.
When the surfer becomes a member they are the ones that can start milking in all sorts of ways.
That is why paysite owners are the best affiliates....

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fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	A better question is how much is the average paysite owner profiting monthly? I'm not talking the mega networks but the average ccbill or small paysite owner?

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	it doesn't take rocket science to figure out that site owners make less per transaction than the affiliate that sent the sale and on the same token it's very easy to figure out that some affiliates that send me a few sales a every day also send a few sales every day to a 100 other programs. these affiliates run big link lists tgps review sites etc etc.... and are the 10% of your affiliate base that makes 90% of your sales

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