So is this what the industry is coming too..? - GoFuckYourself.com

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 08:49 AM

Everyone steal from everyone..?

Until you get a notice of course, then you take it down and steal another from someone else to replace it..?

I know of big name companies doing it?!

Joe BrainCash · 08-20-2008, 08:52 AM

Good sig spot!

Mutt · 08-20-2008, 08:55 AM

that's about it - the only adult company with the balls to sue anybody is Titan a gay content producer.

tony286 · 08-20-2008, 08:55 AM

this industry doesn't learn and it will never learn. The best you can do is work hard until it all blows up. Then people will actually have the balls to wonder why.

12clicks · 08-20-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Everyone steal from everyone..?

Until you get a notice of course, then you take it down and steal another from someone else to replace it..?

I know of big name companies doing it?!

no you don't

fake drama

BFT3K · 08-20-2008, 09:01 AM

Sometimes I wish the mob really WAS involved in this business. A few broken legs early on, and the tube site bullshit would have ended before it was ever able to get this far.

pornguy · 08-20-2008, 09:05 AM

We speak of our selves as an industry. And we Pretend that the " Shows " bring us together, but they dont.

They bring a few together, and nothing ever really gets done.

Phoenix · 08-20-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Sometimes I wish the mob really WAS involved in this business. A few broken legs early on, and the tube site bullshit would have ended before it was ever able to get this far.

some people will never be stolen from;)

Manowar · 08-20-2008, 09:09 AM

everyone's always been out for themselves

BFT3K · 08-20-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

some people will never be stolen from;)

We are ALL being robbed by the tube sites. Even if they aren't stealing your content specifically, they are still distributing free porn, which cuts into everyone's bottom line.

I think the saddest part is that many of you know who these people are, and yet you are still willing to associate with them - online, at shows, through their affiliate programs, etc.

No blacklists, no broken legs, everyone just bends over and takes it - pathetic!

Karupted Charles · 08-20-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

We are ALL being robbed by the tube sites. Even if they aren't stealing your content specifically, they are still distributing free porn, which cuts into everyone's bottom line.

I think the saddest part is that many of you know who these people are, and yet you are still willing to associate with them - online, at shows, through their affiliate programs, etc.

No blacklists, no broken legs, everyone just bends over and takes it - pathetic!

It's so bad a blacklist wont work. I am working on a whitelist but honestly so few people care based on what I have read in the thread from choopa that trying to organize an above board coalition of adult sites is a waste.

NickPapageorgio · 08-20-2008, 09:17 AM

It's in every industry. Don't feel special. Ever seen those no-name cereals that have their boxes printed to resemble big name brands? The little coke dealer buys from the big coke dealer...steps all over it...then resells it. The retro car fad. Coke vs. Pepsi, etc etc.

Creativity and thinkers are few and far between. Everyone wants to make as much cash as possible while doing the least amount of work. Everybody copies and steals from everyone else. Nothing is new and it's ALL been done a million times over.

It's not what this industry is coming to...it's right where it's always been. The innovators vs. the duplicators.

Why · 08-20-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

that's about it - the only adult company with the balls to sue anybody is Titan a gay content producer.

thats false. give credit where it is due... tucker sued pornkings and won. i think he also is still in the litigation process with guerillatraffic as well. there are other people with the balls to do it.

dont know if you knew but its not an easy to thing to prove and then sue about, with the easy access to shell and offshore companies in various jurisdictions its not like you can just point and shoot. there are many others researching their enemies and waiting to find a good way to win against them its not easy its quite hard and extremely expensive. a good warrior chooses his battlefield. ;)

Why · 08-20-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

It's in every industry. Don't feel special. Ever seen those no-name cereals that have their boxes printed to resemble big name brands? The little coke dealer buys from the big coke dealer...steps all over it...then resells it. The retro car fad. Coke vs. Pepsi, etc etc.

Creativity and thinkers are few and far between. Everyone wants to make as much cash as possible while doing the least amount of work. Everybody copies and steals from everyone else. Nothing is new and it's ALL been done a million times over.

It's not what this industry is coming to...it's right where it's always been. The innovators vs. the duplicators.

well said.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

that's about it - the only adult company with the balls to sue anybody is Titan a gay content producer.

Are you not a producer yourself..? Go sue someone..

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

I think the saddest part is that many of you know who these people are.....

Open your eyes... You can see them all around..

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

dont know if you knew but its not an easy to thing to prove and then sue about, with the easy access to shell and offshore companies in various jurisdictions its not like you can just point and shoot. there are many others researching their enemies and waiting to find a good way to win against them its not easy its quite hard and extremely expensive. a good warrior chooses his battlefield. ;)

What he said....

12clicks · 08-20-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Karupted Charles

It's so bad a blacklist wont work. I am working on a whitelist but honestly so few people care based on what I have read in the thread from choopa that trying to organize an above board coalition of adult sites is a waste.

only because the people who matter trust their own whitelist they keep in their head and the people who don't matter, well........... They don't matter.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

only because the people who matter trust their own whitelist they keep in their head and the people who don't matter, well........... They don't matter.

Everyone matters to someone...

qxm · 08-20-2008, 05:09 PM

people stealing from each other.....big asses ....wet pussies.... sounds like adult to me....

Supz · 08-20-2008, 05:12 PM

dont you guys get tired of posting this same shit everyday.

After Shock Media · 08-20-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by qxm

people stealing from each other.....big asses ....wet pussies.... sounds like adult to me....

Mainstream or any other business is in no way any cleaner or more moral.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 05:17 PM

Look at thia thread here and pay attention.. http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/846954-please-visit-site-leave-advices-comment-post14638516.html

People are actually helping this guy... lmao

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by supzdotcom

dont you guys get tired of posting this same shit everyday.

Who the fuck you talking to..?

I am not some surfer nobody trying to give my two cents son..

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Mainstream or any other business is in no way any cleaner or more moral.

That is the truth... And when the economy is down the snakes come out..

baddog · 08-20-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Sometimes I wish the mob really WAS involved in this business. A few broken legs early on, and the tube site bullshit would have ended before it was ever able to get this far.

Barefootsies · 08-20-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

a good warrior chooses his battlefield. ;)

baddog · 08-20-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

It's in every industry. Don't feel special. Ever seen those no-name cereals that have their boxes printed to resemble big name brands? The little coke dealer buys from the big coke dealer...steps all over it...then resells it.

I hope that was a joke.

GetSCORECash · 08-20-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Everyone steal from everyone..?

Until you get a notice of course, then you take it down and steal another from someone else to replace it..?

I know of big name companies doing it?!

Either say who it is, or keep quiet!

After Shock Media · 08-20-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Sometimes I wish the mob really WAS involved in this business. A few broken legs early on, and the tube site bullshit would have ended before it was ever able to get this far.

What makes you think that they themselves would not of been behind the tubes if they were in this business still? Some ethical delima about them stealing or something would stop them? I seem to recall that they used to like making copies of other peoples shit and keeping all of the money.

marketsmart · 08-20-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Everyone steal from everyone..?

Until you get a notice of course, then you take it down and steal another from someone else to replace it..?

I know of big name companies doing it?!

i think its great... nothing like seeing an industry implode on itself because no one can organize this clusterfuck of a business...

this is darwinism at its best...

Matt 26z · 08-20-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

thats false. give credit where it is due... tucker sued pornkings and won. i think he also is still in the litigation process with guerillatraffic as well. there are other people with the balls to do it.

B2B infringement is one thing, surfer infringement is another.

Since surfer infringement makes up almost all infringement, I think it's a fair question to ask which companies besides Titan are taking action against Joe Surfer. You can point your finger at tube site owners all day, but Joe Surfer is the one actually uploading the material. Unless you stop him, you don't stop the infringement. You might be able to get his favorite sites shut down, but be certain that he will just go somewhere else to upload.

Scootermuze · 08-20-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

It's in every industry. Don't feel special. Ever seen those no-name cereals that have their boxes printed to resemble big name brands? The little coke dealer buys from the big coke dealer...steps all over it...then resells it. The retro car fad. Coke vs. Pepsi, etc etc.

Not quite the same..
Let someone steal loads of Kellogg's products and give them away..
I doubt they would sit and do nothing..

Nothing illegal about generic brands or good ol' competition..

Stealing and giving the stolen product away is not nice..

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SCORE-Cash

Either say who it is, or keep quiet!

When were you ever recruited for the take down team...?

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

What makes you think that they themselves would not of been behind the tubes if they were in this business still? Some ethical delima about them stealing or something would stop them? I seem to recall that they used to like making copies of other peoples shit and keeping all of the money.

Expect a visit...

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

B2B infringement is one thing, surfer infringement is another.

Since surfer infringement makes up almost all infringement, I think it's a fair question to ask which companies besides Titan are taking action against Joe Surfer. You can point your finger at tube site owners all day, but Joe Surfer is the one actually uploading the material. Unless you stop him, you don't stop the infringement. You might be able to get his favorite sites shut down, but be certain that he will just go somewhere else to upload.

Bingo.....

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

Not quite the same..
Let someone steal loads of Kellogg's products and give them away..
I doubt they would sit and do nothing..

Nothing illegal about generic brands or good ol' competition..

Stealing and giving the stolen product away is not nice..

Exactly....

Barefootsies · 08-20-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Expect a visit...

Supz · 08-20-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Who the fuck you talking to..?

I am not some surfer nobody trying to give my two cents son..

I'm not just talking to you. This is the same post I read 10x a day.

bbm · 08-20-2008, 07:19 PM

Its round circle, man

klaze · 08-20-2008, 07:20 PM

edit: nm.

Iron Fist · 08-20-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by supzdotcom

dont you guys get tired of posting this same shit everyday.

No kidding.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-20-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Aussie Rebel · 08-20-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Everyone steal from everyone..?

Until you get a notice of course, then you take it down and steal another from someone else to replace it..?

I know of big name companies doing it?!

I wouldn't say "Everyone" but there are alot of big companies either doing it or supporting it

d-null · 08-20-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Everyone steal from everyone..?

Until you get a notice of course, then you take it down and steal another from someone else to replace it..?

I know of big name companies doing it?!

name some names

PornHero · 08-20-2008, 07:33 PM

Welcome to the adult internet business circa 2008.

Survive, Thrive or Die.

I dont know about anyone else but I'm thriving. I see more potential in this business now than ever before. Quit worrying & belly-aching about tube sites and start brainstorming on new ways to increase your income - then get to work.

The adult internet business is everything a horny, calculated risk-taking entrepreneur like myself could ever wish for in a business. 15 years ago nobody here could even conceptualize this reality - but here we are. If you can't figure out a way to continue to make good money in this everchanging business then Im sorry to say you deserve to be forced out.

See ya.

And for all my fellow adult webmasters who've paid their dues and have every confidence they will continue to thrive no matter what this business throws at them, keep it up - you all are the true

Robbie · 08-20-2008, 07:38 PM

PornHero, you just spoke the absolute truth.

pocketkangaroo · 08-20-2008, 07:40 PM

At the end of the day, people care more about their income than any moral issues. Despite board rantings, there are very few of you who would take less money to promote a whitelisted sponsor. It might be harsh, but it's the reality of it. Most people know that if it's not them doing it, it'll be someone else.

I do think lawsuits are coming, and they'll come furiously. There are already companies struggling big time (even some long standing ones) that will turn to suing the crap out of people as a means of income.

Barefootsies · 08-20-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel

I wouldn't say "Everyone" but there are alot of big companies either doing it or supporting it

marketsmart · 08-20-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

now all that needs to be done is add banana claire dancing with him...

08-20-2008, 08:49 AM	#1
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NickPapageorgio Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC Posts: 8,323	It's in every industry. Don't feel special. Ever seen those no-name cereals that have their boxes printed to resemble big name brands? The little coke dealer buys from the big coke dealer...steps all over it...then resells it. The retro car fad. Coke vs. Pepsi, etc etc. Creativity and thinkers are few and far between. Everyone wants to make as much cash as possible while doing the least amount of work. Everybody copies and steals from everyone else. Nothing is new and it's ALL been done a million times over. It's not what this industry is coming to...it's right where it's always been. The innovators vs. the duplicators. __________________

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	this industry doesn't learn and it will never learn. The best you can do is work hard until it all blows up. Then people will actually have the balls to wonder why.

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Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE North Coast Pimp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 304-534-757 Posts: 9,395	Look at thia thread here and pay attention.. http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/846954-please-visit-site-leave-advices-comment-post14638516.html People are actually helping this guy... lmao

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PornHero Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,381	Welcome to the adult internet business circa 2008. Survive, Thrive or Die. I dont know about anyone else but I'm thriving. I see more potential in this business now than ever before. Quit worrying & belly-aching about tube sites and start brainstorming on new ways to increase your income - then get to work. The adult internet business is everything a horny, calculated risk-taking entrepreneur like myself could ever wish for in a business. 15 years ago nobody here could even conceptualize this reality - but here we are. If you can't figure out a way to continue to make good money in this everchanging business then Im sorry to say you deserve to be forced out. See ya. And for all my fellow adult webmasters who've paid their dues and have every confidence they will continue to thrive no matter what this business throws at them, keep it up - you all are the true

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08-20-2008, 07:40 PM	#48
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	At the end of the day, people care more about their income than any moral issues. Despite board rantings, there are very few of you who would take less money to promote a whitelisted sponsor. It might be harsh, but it's the reality of it. Most people know that if it's not them doing it, it'll be someone else. I do think lawsuits are coming, and they'll come furiously. There are already companies struggling big time (even some long standing ones) that will turn to suing the crap out of people as a means of income.