Who do you think?

[Fletch XXX]

Is keeping it illegal?

The Tobacco industry obviously doesnt want herbs to be legal.

The Alcohol companies Budweiser and other Gigantic Corporations for obvious reasons want to keep it illegal.

Its just a plant, get over it.

[Beastiepoo]

So true. You know as well as I do that they'll never see the light though. You'll just have to buy yourself an island and start a new government!

[jreaka]

Not in our life time.......

But they should factor in this~ Have you ever seen a mean Stoner or an abusive pothead?

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Beastiepoo
So true. You know as well as I do that they'll never see the light though. You'll just have to buy yourself an island and start a new government!

...or move to Nevada if we pass legalization during the upcoming election

even a few of the police organizations are for it...just because they feel they have more important things to worry about and it'll take a little power away from the gangs (of course they'll just move on to coke and heroin)....

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Beastiepoo
So true. You know as well as I do that they'll never see the light though. You'll just have to buy yourself an island and start a new government!

One of our good close friends is the International sales Rep for Djarum... we have the best talks.

[Penrod]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


One of our good close friends is the International sales Rep for Djarum... we have the best talks.

Have not had a clove in years. Ever since I dropped a Djarum Special in the driveway and it landed in a puddle and turned it blue I decided not to put that shit in my lungs. I do still enjoy the smell though.

[Fletch XXX]

Was the Constitution written on Hemp?

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Penrod


Have not had a clove in years. Ever since I dropped a Djarum Special in the driveway and it landed in a puddle and turned it blue I decided not to put that shit in my lungs. I do still enjoy the smell though.

They make a lot more thaqn just cloves now.

Hell I got Strawberry and Hemp papers from Djarum, even Vanilla papers mmmm.... KUSH KUSH KUSH is all I can say.

Smells like garlic.

mmmm

[nocostporn]

dude,the tobacco companies DO want it to be legal..Do you think if weed is legalized that means you can grow your own? LOL fuck that,you can't make your own alcohol YOU HAVE TO BUY IT AT A STORE...and the same will go for weed... If you get caught with "bootleg" weed that will still be illegal...think folks,think
Tobacco companies will be the ones selling it

[JConway]

Unless it gets some major financial backing from some huge lobbyists that are going to drop the kind of $$$ that the tobacco and alcohol lobbyists do, then it will never be legal. It is a mind altering drug, legalized for the right price.

[nocostporn]

and the only reason it will never be legalize dis very simple,because some people don't want to get high! If all you smokers are out in public what about the little 10 year old boy walking past you? You can drink alcohol and it doesnt pass on to the next person,weed alters the mind and people who dont wont their mind altered shouldnt have to stay in doors for you...

never going to happen

[Auslander]

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by nocostporn
You can drink alcohol and it doesnt pass on to the next person,weed alters the mind and people who dont wont their mind altered shouldnt have to stay in doors for you...

Spoken like a true alcoholic.

Alcohol alters the mind to the point of violence.

Its drunks who kill little boys in drunk driving accidents not tokers.

You sound drunk now.

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Spoken like a true alcoholic.

Alcohol alters the mind to the point of violent attacks.

Its drunk who kill little boys in drunk driving accidents not tokers.

You sound drunk now.

lol aha but see,alcohol only goes as far as the person using it... It's up to me not to drink and drive...but if you're smokin outside chuck e cheese(which you would have a right since its legalized) then whats stopping it from hitting the kids walking by? You don't have control over it...

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by nocostporn
and the only reason it will never be legalize dis very simple,because some people don't want to get high! If all you smokers are out in public what about the little 10 year old boy walking past you? You can drink alcohol and it doesnt pass on to the next person,weed alters the mind and people who dont wont their mind altered shouldnt have to stay in doors for you...

never going to happen

There really are people who think like this.

[Fletch XXX]

Who smokes at Chucky Cheese?

Dude you really are proving the point of how alcohol effects people beyond the point of retardation.

Wake up.

I dont smoke in public.

I dont smoke and drive.

What I do at home I do at home.

You are the one preaching about what I should do or shouldnt do.

Like a true American.

hahahah

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by [Labret]


There really are people who think like this.

lol I'm playing devils advocate on this one,I don't give a fuck...get my kids high all you want as long as they aren't stealing from my wallet for it

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Who smokes at Chucky Cheese?

Dude you really are proving the point of how alcohol effects people beyond the point of retardation.

Wake up.

I dont smoke in public.

I dont smoke and drive.

What I do at home I do at home.

You are the one preaching about what I should do or shouldnt do.

Like a true American.

hahahah

You're missing my point,if weed is legalized everybody will be out in public smoking right? Chuck e Cheese was my metaphor for society LOL

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by nocostporn



lol aha but see,alcohol only goes as far as the person using it... It's up to me not to drink and drive...but if you're smokin outside chuck e cheese(which you would have a right since its legalized) then whats stopping it from hitting the kids walking by? You don't have control over it...

Youre an idiot.

Here in California you cant even go in the street withy a beer.

Hell I cant even be past my sidewalk with a beer.

Its legalized.

id never smoke around kids.

I see parents smoke cigarettes in front of their kids, which is worst.

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Youre an idiot.

Here in California you cant even go in the street withy a beer.

Hell I cant even be past my sidewalk with a beer.

Its legalized.

id never smoke around kids.

I see parents smoke cigarettes in front of their kids, which is worst.

so legalize weed but make people stay inside? lol should work
We are on a different page and I could never win the argument without you beating me with a 12 foot bong..so I'll shutup,when you see it legalized then you will have a point

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by nocostporn


so legalize weed but make people stay inside? lol should work
We are on a different page and I could never win the argument without you beating me with a 12 foot bong..so I'll shutup,when you see it legalized then you will have a point

When Alcoholics stop killing little kids in the street you will have one.

[nocostporn]

drinking and driving is illegal I haven't killed a kid yet

[nocostporn]

and yeah for the record,I'm on recovery from lastnite

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by nocostporn
drinking and driving is illegal I haven't killed a kid yet

In all actuality me being high right now isnt illegal either.

Selling it is. and Possession is.

But not smoking it.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by nocostporn
and yeah for the record,I'm on recovery from lastnite

Exactly.

A medicated person giving advice on the legalities of substance?

I have given speeches at NA and AA meetings to guys like you.

keep it up, your kids will be proud.

"Daddy's drunk again."

nice.

[Fletch XXX]

Here, the're gonna need it.

http://www.aacap.org/publications/factsfam/alcoholc.htm

[Beastiepoo]

Nocostporn seems to be missing another point Fletch. All this shit about 'smoking in public, a kid could walk by and get a hit'. More evidence of his ignorance about Marijuana. Walking by and sniffing it on the air does not affect you the way taking a proper hit does. Its like getting a whiff of a cigarette or pipe. You smell the smell but you aren't taking a fucking huge lungful.

Then there is the thing about 'everyone' smoking in public. Take Amsterdam, most people smoke either in the cafes or at home. The percentage of people wandering around idly smoking a joint is small. Just 'cause they can doesn't mean they would.

[nocostporn]

lol I'm a social drunk..Life is too good to piss away ALL the time... My kids won't be able to tell what a drunkin rage ass whoppin is and what isnt...
Just make sure yours are standing out in the street when I come around

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by nocostporn
lol I'm a social drunk..Life is too good to piss away ALL the time... My kids won't be able to tell what a drunkin rage ass whoppin is and what isnt...
Just make sure yours are standing out in the street when I come around

No doubt.

So did you drink and drive last night?

How far was the bar?

I bet you did.

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by Beastiepoo
Nocostporn seems to be missing another point Fletch. All this shit about 'smoking in public, a kid could walk by and get a hit'. More evidence of his ignorance about Marijuana. Walking by and sniffing it on the air does not affect you the way taking a proper hit does. Its like getting a whiff of a cigarette or pipe. You smell the smell but you aren't taking a fucking huge lungful.

Then there is the thing about 'everyone' smoking in public. Take Amsterdam, most people smoke either in the cafes or at home. The percentage of people wandering around idly smoking a joint is small. Just 'cause they can doesn't mean they would.

if somebody walking by catches a wiff and it doesnt effect their mind and there is medical evidence then yeah,legalize the shit... I'm just telling you that is about the only reason it hasnt been

I could honestly careless..either way it wouldnt bother me I'm thinking like the most uptight politician and showing you thats the reason

[Fletch XXX]

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


No doubt.

So did you drink and drive last night?

How far was the bar?

I bet you did.

10 feet from where I'm sitting now... true drinkers have the home bar stocked for any special occassion that may arise

lol nah I probably drink like once a month,bring home some skeezer and realize I fucked up...monthly cycle,nothing too serious

[jas1552]

My cousin was going to deliver a lb once to this dude and he had it hid in his car. He got pulled over by the cops. A k-9 unit. They didn't even use the dog. They went right to where that shit was hid. They took him downtown and told him something like "we've been watching you for a while and we know you're a good guy. We don't care if you hook people up for normal amounts of weed. Hell we don't want the community getting pissed off cuz they can't get their shit but when you start carrying weight you start making as much or more than us and we ain't gonna tolerate that shit. If we find you with this kind of weight again we are gonna bust your ass." Then they let him go.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Youre an idiot.

Here in California you cant even go in the street withy a beer.

Hell I cant even be past my sidewalk with a beer.

Its legalized.

id never smoke around kids.

I see parents smoke cigarettes in front of their kids, which is worst.

That's YOU bro. You really think everyone does that? It sucks ass for those who actually do drink/smoke responsibly, like yourself. At school I always hated going by this little enclosed courtyard area that you had to pass to get to your classes, everyone would smoke down there and smell like absolute shit. You came out of the courtyard smelling like cigarettes, yummy.

Couple weeks ago I was in St. Louis checking out the Arch. Was pretty cool, the video about it was interesting. Anyway, as I was leaving there were these two chicks sitting in front of the monument on a little bench smoking away. Funny shit. My little brother wanted to know what the smell was, haha, I'm sure next year he'll be tokin' it up himself.

But I agree, I would probably put weed and alcohol on the same platter. And I'd much rather weed than cigarettes, but in public I don't want either. Nor should I be subject to either.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

And I'd much rather weed than cigarettes, but in public I don't want either. Nor should I be subject to either.

Forgive me.

I am from New Orleans bro.

We do EVERYTHING in public, and if not so, some niches wouldnt be here.

hehehe

[jas1552]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

That's YOU bro. You really think everyone does that? It sucks ass for those who actually do drink/smoke responsibly, like yourself. At school I always hated going by this little enclosed courtyard area that you had to pass to get to your classes, everyone would smoke down there and smell like absolute shit. You came out of the courtyard smelling like cigarettes, yummy.

Couple weeks ago I was in St. Louis checking out the Arch. Was pretty cool, the video about it was interesting. Anyway, as I was leaving there were these two chicks sitting in front of the monument on a little bench smoking away. Funny shit. My little brother wanted to know what the smell was, haha, I'm sure next year he'll be tokin' it up himself.

But I agree, I would probably put weed and alcohol on the same platter. And I'd much rather weed than cigarettes, but in public I don't want either. Nor should I be subject to either.

So you don't think people should be allowed to smoke cigarettes outside?

[nocostporn]

Originally posted by jas1552

So you don't think people should be allowed to smoke cigarettes outside?

this will sound stupid but cigarettes kill,weed messes with the mentals...Cancer is longtime effects that you can't pinpoint,Me walking past you and feeling "festive" going into work isnt something most people want to deal with...think about it for a second and it might make sense lol

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by nocostporn


this will sound stupid but cigarettes kill,weed messes with the mentals...Cancer is longtime effects that you can't pinpoint,

Why didnt you mention Alcohol kills?

Alcohol *messes with the mentals* it makes people DEPRESSED to the point of violence as seen all day everyday on the NEWS and COPS.

Alcohol causes deformities in thousands of children every year.

As far as Cancer.

I believe its a somatic illness so we could start to argue that but you wouldnt even understand what I would drop on you.

And you're right it *did sound stupid*

[jas1552]

Has anyone noticed how liberals like to pretend they are protecting our civil liberties when in reality they are a bunch of holier than thou nazis who try to make it illegal to do things they don't like.

[Beastiepoo]

Nocostporn - Most people wouldn't know if you were feeling 'festive' or not. You'd have to be pretty fucking stoned for people walking by to notice. Also, if you WERE that stoned, I doubt you'd be thinking about going into work. That one makes me giggle!!

JAS - I prefer people to smoke cigs outside than inside (aside from their own houses of course). And similarly to weed, walking past someone lighting up isn't gonna give you cancer. Its just a smell. An unpleasant one to many people, but still just a smell. Besides, people who smoke are harassed enough about where they can and cannot do so. I'm not a cig smoker and don't like the smell/affects of cigarettes but you gotta give the addicts a break.

[MrPopup]

Weighing in with my fat 2 pennies....

There is a reason an establishment like Blunt Brothers doesn't serve alcohol (although I've been hearing that the alcohol license for New Amsterdam Cafe is "about to happen"). Alcohol is a violence enducing drug. Marijuana is not. You can bet your last bingo ticket that the introduction of booze to this environment would FUCK it right up. Isn't that proof enough?

Booze and violence are as American as apple pie. IMHO, Marijuana use promotes peace. Peace is NOT condusive to American values (i.e. the good ol' fashioned American Way) as it would require America to drop its 200 plus years of aggressive Imperialism. An Imperialism that even today demands an "invasion" of Iraq to "protect the interests of the free world" (last time I checked this could also be translated to PROTECT THE REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION OIL BUDDIES)

And along those lines, any type of decriminalization would immediately upset the delicate balance of tobacco and alcohol corporate influence - something your greedy politicians would hate to see happen as it might jeopardize their post-political careers as interest-group cock suckers.

[Fletch XXX]

Mr Popup, wonderful post.

I agree.

[jas1552]

asset forfeiture

[jas1552]

I think the main reason it is still illegal is it has been illegal for many decades and the congress, republicans and democrats alike, are afraid of offending soccer moms and the elderly.
To advocate the legalization of marijuana would be very risky politically.

[Beastiepoo]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Mr Popup, wonderful post.

I agree.

Right on.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by jas1552
I think the main reason it is still illegal is it has been illegal for many decades and the congress, republicans and democrats alike, are afraid of offending soccer moms and the elderly.
To advocate the legalization of marijuana would be very risky politically.

Exactly.

One day they will ration us chocolate...

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by jas1552
I think the main reason it is still illegal is it has been illegal for many decades and the congress, republicans and democrats alike, are afraid of offending soccer moms and the elderly.
To advocate the legalization of marijuana would be very risky politically.

Basically, yup. It's used for propaganda and political gains.

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Exactly.

One day they will ration us chocolate...

Why do you think some people have so much support for a FAT TAX?

Every time I turn on the news today, it strikes me how many parallells there are with the USA as with the old Communist Soviet Union.

"We decide what you watch, what you think, and what you put in your body"

[PornoDoggy]

Walk around in public smoking it? No friggin way - then too many people will know you have it and want some.

[Fletch XXX]

Um for the record,

its illegal to smoke cigarettes in most bars in california too.

You cant smoke cigaretts in public here.

;)