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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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Very nice stats
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We are happy to accomodate affiliates that show an interest in promoting our products.
The options are WIDE open to anyone to test us against others and see how we measure up.
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wowza nice ;)
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What do you think about being better treaded then a waiter, and get a fair share of the pie.
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it all depends on the product obviously, its insane to think you can just think up a % in your head and base everything on that. Would you rather make 90% of $100 or 10% of $1000 ?
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Let us have in this bizz a load of comparison material to not just say stupid nr's
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It's very simple. Stick with the one that earns you the most.
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It's really easy to figure out. Your argument would work if all things were equal between cam sites. That 2 week cookie kind of makes that not so. |
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My customer, the one I busted my ass to make sure he visits my website daily has $2000 in income that he spends on porn per year. He is not going to spend a penny more than that no matter what I offer him, that is his limit. I send it to camsite a and get 30% of all the money he spends for life. I send to camsite b and get 30% of the money he spends for 2 weeks. Now I've turned this customer on to one of these websites and he is addicted. He's going to blow through his entire $2000 cause dammit he loves cams. With camsite a, I get the respect and compensation I deserve for not only sending that customer to the website but making sure he was horny enough to join and spend money. Each and every time he spends money they thank me for referring him by sending me a cut. With camsite b, I get 30% of what he spends for 2 weeks. Unless he blows $2000 in 2 weeks this program will continue to profit on my hard work for years and years. I know there are a lot of variables and you can say "but we sell them more!" all day. Even if you are correct that you do sell them more you are taking all of his disposable income and giving me a much smaller amount of it. Now that customer is no longer joining other paysites from my links because he is a tapped out cam addict looking for his next Euro girl in a studio to chat with. When he finds her I'd sure like to get a cut. |
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![]() but seriously , i think you are missing the overall concept. if salesman #1 is selling ipods for $200 and salesman #2 is selling ipods for $100 , how can you expect them to pay the salesman the same %, they are using 2 totally different methods of promotion. and thats just if the product was the same, with cams the product also counts as well as countless other facts , thats why at the end of the day/year what matters is the $ in your pocket. If you dont like the pitch , dont use the product, but if you write something off based on a silly concept like x% > x% it would be just as silly as switching all your links to some new cam sponsor because they were paying 99% revshare , what if that sponsor was charging 10k per signup and had 2 lesbian albino's working the cams ? factor everything in , if it doesnt sit right dont test.
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I did, it doesn't. ;)
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![]() are all pps sponsors who dont pay as much as whomever pays the highest amount disrespecting and undercompensating their affiliates ? why shouldnt they all pay 99$ pps like joesponsor does ?
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well then you know you're traffic does better with a diff sponsor, go figure , happens milllions of times per day , i like coke my neighbour likes pepsi, the pepsi dealership could be offering the pepsi salesman 90% revshare but the coke salesman will make the 10% sale, the pepsi guy will make 90% of nothing
![]() you are a pepsi saleman trying to sell coke to pepsi lovers. let the people with coke fans make a mint while you make a mint selling pepsi to pepsi fans , everyone wins ![]()
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good stuff Mickey, our team is looking forward to working with you
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I'd love to use the cobrand, but there is no way I'll move over all of my cam traffic for 10% vs the 35% lifetime revshare I'm earning now.
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Lifetime = lifetime. Every time a surfer I refered to you makes a purchase with you, anywhere, anytime, anyhow, for EVER I get a share. That's lifetime. I don't need you to give me lifetime on my own wl and then act all surprised when you get called on it, and pretend like you don't get it. In between your %, the above tenuous interpretation of "lifetime" and your 30second cookies... heh. Carry on. |
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she was sarcastic
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-sigh- ....
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u guys approve apps or...?
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I have no idea how you ended up at the 14 day cookie option since that does not apply in the case of co-brands. All sales generated on your co-brand will earn you a commission, up to 20%, regardless of whether the customer has cookies enabled, etc. HOWEVER i will respect your right to steer completely offtopic and will try and shed light on some of the reasons why the 14 day cookie system can and does work in favor of the affiliates. Affiliates frequently complain about the conversion ratios they have with other live cam affiliate programs that offer lifetime revenue sharing. In the case of the old revshare program with AWE, after 14 days the cookies expire and the customer is released. Affiliates get a fair chance at converting that member again. "but but...that was my customer..." may seem like a reasonable argument. Not so fast, the same way you "lost" that customer, another affiliate "lost" one as well. You now have the chance to convert other affiliates' released members and vice versa. Not only that, but the cycle helped eliminate/postpone the dreaded market saturation/oversaturation where a product has had so much exposure on said market that conversion ratios worsen and affiliates have a hard time converting any visitors at all. Now with all that being said 1. Some of our top affiliates are in fact using the 14 day cookie system and are doing VERY well. Our most successful affiliates will keep it to themselves. Why? It's business. The less competition, the better. Quote:
30% REVSHARE for 14 days 2. Lifetime payouts? Sure, promote your co-brand with the option to earn up to 20% on all purchases generated through your co-branded live cam site. The percentage argument is completely pointless if you ignore one important part of the equation: the gross amount a customer will spend on said site. -Is a customer more likely to spend on a site with 2,000+ live feeds online or on a site with 40 models online? -Is a potential customer more likely to convert on a site that adds alternative payment methods on a constant basis to enable affiliates to convert traffic from as many countries as possible or on a site that offers credit card payments only -I could go on because i eat, drink and sleep this - and so does the rest of our team UP TO 20% REVSHARE - LIFETIME (have the traffic volume it takes to arrive at a custom agreement? Feel free to contact me and we'll do our best to find a way to work together) "Why is AWE so damn popular?" - asks my signature in bright yellow. Click it and you will notice you're not the only one wondering "how could they earn me more, they don't go by 'conventional rules', I want my safe conventional rules and a good looking percentage to look at, both are accepted by the community and that's that. No. Try them all and stick to the one that earns you the most. It is NOT all black and white (regardless of what marketing campaigns sometimes want you to believe). Be open minded, some of our top affiliates were when they decided to stick to promoting AWE and are now glad that they did. I am now out for the week, if anyone has any questions regarding the promotion of AWE and its products feel free to contact any of us, we're easy to reach (see first post for contact info). Any serious business minded affiliates are welcome to contact any of us Have a great weekend!
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with awe as long as the surfer keeps coming thru your whitelabel site you will get LIFETIME, pretty easy to figure out , are there ways around it ? yes tons , just like with any sponsor. yes carry on after you make a boldfaced lie. I realise you were just being a smartass but you do realise others actually believe the b.s. I dont think you would appreciate the same treatment. i.e. insinuating awe uses 30 sec cookies when you know full well they do not.
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one big difference alot of people neglect to mention is quality and quantity.
heres awe compared to a few others. ------------------------------------- free live cam feeds neoncams.com total live models 28 -------------------------------------- free live cam feeds wildorchidz.com Girl ( 74 ) Couples( 4 ) Boys ( 3 ) feeds for members only: Girls: 0/ (2) Couples: 0/ (1) --------------------------------------- free live cam feeds awe Girl ( 472 ) Couples( 29 ) Boys ( 53 )
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LOL you compare them to those. You lost my respect right there.
It's like comparing you to ...., ..., ....., (read any sig whore) lol Quote:
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Not saying I totally agree with the 2 week thingy BUT (big but) it also has it's pros. Besides that we see lots of people still buying at AWE way after the 2 week period. They come back through our site to spend. Offer them something good and they will come back and you will get paid again ![]() If above doesn;t make sense than please move on, it is early for me.
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Lots of confusion in this thread (like normal)
QUESTION: If I send a customer to AWE, will I get credit for them AFTER 14 days if they DID NOT go through someone elses referral link during that time? Meaning the member signed up through my link, went to Livejasmin and purchase time for each of the following 14 days. Then on the 15th day of purchasing, credit for the member is no longer applied to my account for that member if they did not continue to arrive to Livejasmin DIRECTLY through my referral link code, even though the surfer never went through a different affiliate link? Correct? |
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heres a friendly bump for you
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No, the cookie will expire after 14 days. As long they KEEP visiting your site, your cookie will be renewed. If your client for example bookmarks livejasmin, and not visiting your site anymore, then the client is for Livejasmin. If the client goes to someone else his live cam site and spends from there, then the revenue is for that website. Correct me if im wrong Smokeythebear
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PPS is a one time 40$ and the client is not back in the pool for someone else to get a 40$ PPS. Correct me again when i`m wrong. But this tube thing you speak about KNOW they do not get revenue much, they are more based on the PPS payout, and this keeps a client out of the pool... Again, if you think this is incorrect, please tell me
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AWE has some very different ideas.
Basically, it's this, you've got good traffic/volume they'll work with you, they know that they won't get away with much with YOU and you probably can make money with them. They're more of a "confusing program with a long long way of trying to say they'll possibly pay you more than the other guys for your traffic if you make some leaps of faith, ignore some numbers and jump through some hoops." I've never seen them coherently defend their tracking system. It's good because of this and that but in the end revshare means you have to keep selling your customers in order to keep the ones you bring in even if they keep buying on their own. I sent them some traffic, had a $100 signup bonus and didn't make one more sale over the course of tens of thousands of uniques once I was close to clearing the bonus. They're dodgy.. Alot of guys make money with them, this I know, but watch them and watch them closely. |
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No you wont get credit, awempire takes 100%, this is the shitty part with them...
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Stats from a SUBDOMAIN account ( have one for subdomain-cobranded and for the straight to tools, banners, cams domain )
![]() I am a fan of Life time revenue I promote for a big 8 Years the subs, and have seen a recurring income on this.
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