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dropped9 · 09-01-2008, 05:35 PM

100 morons, thiefs, and cheap bastards

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 05:42 PM

Go flame me here now... http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/851974-affordable-site-design-hiring-designers.html

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 05:42 PM

This thread needs to die soon.. I keep can't handle any more orders and it pisses me off to have to turn shit down...

THREAD CLOSED!

candyflip · 09-01-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

This thread needs to die soon.. I keep can't handle any more orders and it pisses me off to have to turn shit down...

THREAD CLOSED!

Like we all haven't heard this one before.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Like we all haven't heard this one before.

Oh, you have definitely heard it before... You used to do a good job at trolling me... Anymore you suck though.. Your material is lame... And you are just simple a fag..!

BTW, there is a thread around with your name on it with some answers you were after dumb fuck!

Nicky · 09-01-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Retox Josh

I want proof. I wan't GFY users with a reg date older then a year, and atleast 1k posts, to come in here and say, they are using you're services, and are satisfied,

I use his services and am satisfied.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

I use his services and am satisfied.

Thanks Nicky, but it was not needed, that guy Josh is just blowing steam out of his ass with out a clue...

aico · 09-01-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

No, they aren't. Anyone with slightly better than basic knowledge of photoshop could create them in a matter of minutes.

Anyone with a slightly basic knowledge of photoshop wouldn't need to buy a $70 Logo

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I can pay a plumber to come fix my drain for $70, but I don't need to, cuz I know how.

You guys crack me up, what in the fuck do you expect for $70??

Graphic design prices are not based on the work alone, they are based on many other factors such as the uses, how many people will be seeing the work, etc etc etc.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Anyone with a slightly basic knowledge of photoshop wouldn't need to buy a $70 Logo

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I can pay a plumber to come fix my drain for $70, but I don't need to, cuz I know how.

You guys crack me up, what in the fuck do you expect for $70??

Graphic design prices are not based on the work alone, they are based on many other factors such as the uses, how many people will be seeing the work, etc etc etc.

Some people do not get it... It is like the guy that buys shoes at payless and wonders why he goes through three pairs a year versus the guy that spends 100 bucks every two years and gets good shoes...

I provide a great service for the price I provide it for... My company is one of the most reliable design companies in this industry... We never, ever give our clients the run around.. We deliver on time 99 out of 100 and go out of our way to make our clients more then happy..!

Porn Ass · 09-01-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

This thread delivered....

That best backfire in the history of gfy...

not even close

from this thread and the tube thread.. i'd personally never do biz with you, but no sweat off your back im sure

Porn Ass · 09-01-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

She only had it for a month but I left it there for 2 because I had them turned off and forgot about it. On top of that, I still haven't even bothered her for the designs she promised me for running it. S

starting to hear a common theme going on with several people who did the same as you with the sigs and not getting jack shit in return from her

brassmonkey · 09-01-2008, 07:15 PM

hmm buppin

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

I use his services and am satisfied.

That's One, wheres the others?

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Thanks Nicky, but it was not needed, that guy Josh is just blowing steam out of his ass with out a clue...

No, I'm just sick of hearing people say drama threads calling out their services is causing them to blow up and get a rush of customers.. sorry, either they are idiots running to you, or its made up... nobody sees someone say your design services are crap and decides "fucking right, i'll buy this shit!"

YellowDude · 09-01-2008, 07:30 PM

Its a personal taste, what you like I hate and contrariwise

Yngwie · 09-01-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

I've been saying that he's a fly by night wannabe since he first came here trying to resell domain names. He thinks he can get away with providing shitty work because he's "affordable".

You should hire Headless, because you both suck so much ass.

funny how you say that you've been saying that since he first came here.. Let me quote something YOU said in a thread

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Originally Posted by candyflip

We've chatted a few times and he's ok by me. He's pretty good with drawing attention to himself. Guess we'll see how that plays out for him

this was on this thread http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/720954-personally-jon-clark.html

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Retox Josh

That's One, wheres the others?

No, I'm just sick of hearing people say drama threads calling out their services is causing them to blow up and get a rush of customers.. sorry, either they are idiots running to you, or its made up... nobody sees someone say your design services are crap and decides "fucking right, i'll buy this shit!"

It is real simple... Everyone has different likes, wants and needs... I provide solid service... There are many people that like our work and service...

When the attention is on you.. It is also on your service.. If you provide a good service, you will get more business with more eyes on your service...

It is not rocket science people!

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

funny how you say that you've been saying that since he first came here.. Let me quote something YOU said in a thread

this was on this thread http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/720954-personally-jon-clark.html

We retracted that statement a little while ago actually... Good call though

candyflip has proven himself a scammer, lier, thief and twofaced many of times around here.. I found out the hard way myself..!

Young · 09-01-2008, 08:42 PM

Extremely shitty design.

But then again what would you expect for $70?

I don't do any design/dev work for anybody but myself unless the money calls for it.

$70 wouldn't even get Photoshop/Illustrator open on my computer.

BlockThree · 09-01-2008, 10:25 PM

You are getting what you are paying for. There is a reason his prices are so low. So i wouldn't complain.

If you want quality, pay for it.

Malicious Biz · 09-01-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

I can pay a plumber to come fix my drain for $70, but I don't need to, cuz I know how.

Would you pay 70$ for a plumber to come to your house to flush your toilet? because that's basically the level of work those logos are. a plumber flushing a toilet.

aico · 09-01-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Would you pay 70$ for a plumber to come to your house to flush your toilet? because that's basically the level of work those logos are. a plumber flushing a toilet.

If the plumber came to my house, and flushed the toilet, I'd expect the bill to be about $70 for his time.

Zorgman · 09-01-2008, 10:33 PM

You pay for what you get, any good logo designer would charge $250+ for basic logo.

Malicious Biz · 09-01-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

If the plumber came to my house, and flushed the toilet, I'd expect the bill to be about $70 for his time.

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Originally Posted by Zorgman

You pay for what you get, any good logo designer would charge $250+ for basic logo.

wow. looks like I need to get into the super awesome 70 dollar logo business then.

aico · 09-01-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

wow. looks like I need to get into the super awesome 70 dollar logo business then.

It doesn't really seem like you much understand how business works honestly, or why people hire people to do things for them. Maybe you should brush up on that a little before you take anything new on.

Malicious Biz · 09-01-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

It doesn't really seem like you much understand how business works honestly, or why people hire people to do things for them. Maybe you should brush up on that a little before you take anything new on.

If you're more than happy to pay mona lisa prices for a crayon drawing, more to you my man, more power to you.

candyflip · 09-01-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

funny how you say that you've been saying that since he first came here.. Let me quote something YOU said in a thread

this was on this thread http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/720954-personally-jon-clark.html

I gave him a hard time at first, and myself and a few others actually talked to him and he toned his act down. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at that point. He continued acting out and filling the board with bullshit so I changed my opinion.

People are allowed to do that right?

moeloubani · 09-01-2008, 10:51 PM

I didn't even ask for a fucking super logo, just a logo. But the point is he said it would be that price for the logo, I wasn't about to say 'Let me just give you $250 and you just give me a GOOD logo!' I figured the price would be for a good logo, not a fucking shitty photoshop 1 2 3 done logo. I don't care if I paid $1, that was the price quoted to me and I expected quality work for that price.

Aico you're the one who doesn't understand business. Keep thinking that spending more money on things is good business. That's a laugh in itself! Everyone knows that the ultimate product sells for a good price and is a quality product. That's good business, not paying money unnecessarily to get something you could have gotten for less.

aico · 09-01-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

If you're more than happy to pay mona lisa prices for a crayon drawing, more to you my man, more power to you.

LOL $70 is Mona Lisa prices?? You really are a little out of touch with reality.

aico · 09-01-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Aico you're the one who doesn't understand business. Keep thinking that spending more money on things is good business. That's a laugh in itself! Everyone knows that the ultimate product sells for a good price and is a quality product. That's good business, not paying money unnecessarily to get something you could have gotten for less.

Says the guy who got the $70 he didn't like...

Malicious Biz · 09-01-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

LOL $70 is Mona Lisa prices?? You really are a little out of touch with reality.

more power to you my man.

moeloubani · 09-01-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Says the guy who got the $70 he didn't like...

Touché, but I did get to sample the work, and now I move on to the next. When I find a good one then I'll get more than a $70 logo.

Maybe a $150 affiliate program skin or $125 paysite...just kidding

Whatever though, designers have always been hit and miss, this was a miss, for me at least.

Bright side is I started a 3 page thread, and got to use touché, so it almost evens out.

candyflip · 09-01-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

We retracted that statement a little while ago actually... Good call though

candyflip has proven himself a scammer, lier, thief and twofaced many of times around here.. I found out the hard way myself..!

You are so full of bullshit it's not even funny. I've never done a lick of business with you and I never would. So for you to say you found out the hard way is an outright lie.

You talk a big game a back nothing up.

You came here trying to hustle domain names and got put through the ringer here more than once. You changed your nic, hoping that people might forget. You came on here and vouched for your good buddy Chris Mac, who now you claim is a child molester and kiddie porn trader. Don't forget that you backed him up again when he tried to sell a computer here on GFY. If he's a kid toucher, and you busted him with CP...chances are that laptop had CP on it too. Then this all comes to light in the same week we see a thread from someone else with a similar situation. Pretty convenient story. Now your "wife" has blown your cover with regards to you banging the hottest chicks as you've claimed on here. Oh, and I'm pretty sure you claimed to be the first to monetize tube sites. If you had tube sites even two weeks ago you'd have spammed the shit out of it like you did with the one you just started.

You can call me what you like, but the fact of the matter is you're nothing but a big talker who resells some shitty designs and opened a tube site a few days ago. You are not the industry player you think you are.

aico · 09-01-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Touché, but I did get to sample the work, and now I move on to the next. When I find a good one then I'll get more than a $70 logo.

Maybe a $150 affiliate program skin or $125 paysite...just kidding

Whatever though, designers have always been hit and miss, this was a miss, for me at least.

Bright side is I started a 3 page thread, and got to use touché, so it almost evens out.

well just a tip, steer away from designers who have already set prices on their sites, no two projects take the same time or amount of work, each project is different, and should be billed accordingly. Most designers who know how to bill projects put "Contact us with your project" so they can give you an estimate based on your needs, before you decide to go ahead with the project.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

I didn't even ask for a fucking super logo, just a logo. But the point is he said it would be that price for the logo, I wasn't about to say 'Let me just give you $250 and you just give me a GOOD logo!' I figured the price would be for a good logo, not a fucking shitty photoshop 1 2 3 done logo. I don't care if I paid $1, that was the price quoted to me and I expected quality work for that price.

Aico you're the one who doesn't understand business. Keep thinking that spending more money on things is good business. That's a laugh in itself! Everyone knows that the ultimate product sells for a good price and is a quality product. That's good business, not paying money unnecessarily to get something you could have gotten for less.

Hey man, if you said you wanted a top notch $250 logo I would have told you who to hire... You wanted a fast logo, that was your only requirement...

You offered to pay more ever if I could do it fast... I told you do not worry about it...

I price our work fairly for what it is worth, I do not misrepresent high end design and sell crap.. I advertise the honest services I offer..!

Believe me, if I had a designer on staff that could do a $250 logo, I would gladly take your $250 and deliver, like I gladly took your $70 and delivered... $35 a logo..

And you wanted what for that price..?

I can not even believe you have the nerve to post in this thread after you owned yourself on the first post...

Here we are on page three and you are still trying to save your ass....

Yngwie · 09-01-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

I gave him a hard time at first, and myself and a few others actually talked to him and he toned his act down. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at that point. He continued acting out and filling the board with bullshit so I changed my opinion.

People are allowed to do that right?

that wasn't my point. Reread what I said.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Touché, but I did get to sample the work, and now I move on to the next. When I find a good one then I'll get more than a $70 logo.

Maybe a $150 affiliate program skin or $125 paysite...just kidding

Whatever though, designers have always been hit and miss, this was a miss, for me at least.

Bright side is I started a 3 page thread, and got to use touché, so it almost evens out.

You started a three page thread...

Wippy, anyone can do that by putting my name in the title...

Do something impressive and then brag to us about it..

candyflip · 09-01-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

that wasn't my point. Reread what I said.

Again. I was on his ass. We had a nice talk. He agreed that he had some things to learn and some things to change. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and let him do his thing. In the end, he didn't change...so I revised my opinion of him. Simple as that.

Is me changing my view of him that difficult for you to comprehend?

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-01-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

You are so full of bullshit it's not even funny. I've never done a lick of business with you and I never would. So for you to say you found out the hard way is an outright lie.

You talk a big game a back nothing up.

You came here trying to hustle domain names and got put through the ringer here more than once. You changed your nic, hoping that people might forget. You came on here and vouched for your good buddy Chris Mac, who now you claim is a child molester and kiddie porn trader. Don't forget that you backed him up again when he tried to sell a computer here on GFY. If he's a kid toucher, and you busted him with CP...chances are that laptop had CP on it too. Then this all comes to light in the same week we see a thread from someone else with a similar situation. Pretty convenient story. Now your "wife" has blown your cover with regards to you banging the hottest chicks as you've claimed on here. Oh, and I'm pretty sure you claimed to be the first to monetize tube sites. If you had tube sites even two weeks ago you'd have spammed the shit out of it like you did with the one you just started.

You can call me what you like, but the fact of the matter is you're nothing but a big talker who resells some shitty designs and opened a tube site a few days ago. You are not the industry player you think you are.

You are trying to hard... Less effort is more progress in your cause...

btw, I made sure everyone knew when I changed my nick to my real name...

I still own the domain register that was reflected in my first nick, I changed it because I did not want to limit my marketing potential by being nicked after one of the sub companies...

You are out of ammo fag boy..

Common Sense · 09-02-2008, 12:46 AM

calling that a design is a big stretch. i know you shouldnt expect much for 75 bucks, but id expect something that resembles some creativity. thats 2 minutes in ms paint.

stop arguing with the guy. he sells shit services for shit rates because he is broke. let him run around acting like a big shot. anyone with a brain knows that hes pulling a couple hundred bucks a week tops. it will tire out soon enough and hell be back a few months later with another lame brain idea that is making him so much money.

florin · 09-02-2008, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Come on man, I am not going to argue with you...

Your drama is lame, your story is half truth... Thanks for the advertising though!

Hei, man..this is not a really healthy "advertising"....people MIGHT avoid you, don´t you think?

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Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	Extremely shitty design. But then again what would you expect for $70? I don't do any design/dev work for anybody but myself unless the money calls for it. $70 wouldn't even get Photoshop/Illustrator open on my computer. __________________ ★★★

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09-01-2008, 05:42 PM	#102
Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE North Coast Pimp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 304-534-757 Posts: 9,395	Go flame me here now... http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/851974-affordable-site-design-hiring-designers.html

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Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE North Coast Pimp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 304-534-757 Posts: 9,395	This thread needs to die soon.. I keep can't handle any more orders and it pisses me off to have to turn shit down... THREAD CLOSED!

09-01-2008, 10:25 PM	#119
BlockThree Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hill Valley, CA Posts: 121	You are getting what you are paying for. There is a reason his prices are so low. So i wouldn't complain. If you want quality, pay for it.

09-01-2008, 10:51 PM	#127
moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	I didn't even ask for a fucking super logo, just a logo. But the point is he said it would be that price for the logo, I wasn't about to say 'Let me just give you $250 and you just give me a GOOD logo!' I figured the price would be for a good logo, not a fucking shitty photoshop 1 2 3 done logo. I don't care if I paid $1, that was the price quoted to me and I expected quality work for that price. Aico you're the one who doesn't understand business. Keep thinking that spending more money on things is good business. That's a laugh in itself! Everyone knows that the ultimate product sells for a good price and is a quality product. That's good business, not paying money unnecessarily to get something you could have gotten for less.

09-02-2008, 12:46 AM	#139
Common Sense Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 183	calling that a design is a big stretch. i know you shouldnt expect much for 75 bucks, but id expect something that resembles some creativity. thats 2 minutes in ms paint. stop arguing with the guy. he sells shit services for shit rates because he is broke. let him run around acting like a big shot. anyone with a brain knows that hes pulling a couple hundred bucks a week tops. it will tire out soon enough and hell be back a few months later with another lame brain idea that is making him so much money.