What is the acceptable shave rate now? - GoFuckYourself.com

BradM · 10-17-2008, 03:41 PM

Seems you all expect to get shaved, so I might start doing it just to shut everyone up #1, and #2 make more money.

What is the % of your traffic you expect to lose to razors... 10%? 20?

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-17-2008, 03:42 PM

i'd say 25% is industry standard

BradM · 10-17-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Right

i'd say 25% is industry standard

*shakes head* Honesty doesn't pay off, and I'm being serious. That's so high and wish I knew that sooner.

brand0n · 10-17-2008, 04:01 PM

well it depends

the more volume you do the more they can take

but anywhere from 10-30% seems to be about right

now a lot of them are pretty smart, is a sliding scale.

in a nutshell they can decide how much a sign up is worth to them, then keep playing with the numbers until that point is reached

MindWaste · 10-17-2008, 04:07 PM

shavers should get sclaped.. That is the main reason i ran out of money and lost my mind and myself.. Like im talking 100% shaving..

When i get back in this shit im gonna get a big suit to ya'll so stop that shit. Im connected through microsoft, ibm, And alot of layers.

Rorschach · 10-17-2008, 04:09 PM

well i'm at 0:16000 at imlive so far this period, so i'd say the scalpel is set pretty high

tical · 10-17-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

well it depends

the more volume you do the more they can take

but anywhere from 10-30% seems to be about right

now a lot of them are pretty smart, is a sliding scale.

in a nutshell they can decide how much a sign up is worth to them, then keep playing with the numbers until that point is reached

i'm pretty sure i've had a few places do that to me

seems very odd to go from 1:200 to 1:1200 overnight, then back to 1:300... then to 1:900 with the end of the pay period roughly within $100 (give or take) of the last period

pretty obvious cap on earnings

BradM · 10-17-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tical

i'm pretty sure i've had a few places do that to me

seems very odd to go from 1:200 to 1:1200 overnight, then back to 1:300... then to 1:900 with the end of the pay period roughly within $100 (give or take) of the last period

pretty obvious cap on earnings

Do you continue to promote companies like that because the earnings stay better than other companies or do you move on principle?

RogerV · 10-17-2008, 04:25 PM

fuck shaving whats the point? if you cant payout more dont just be honest

Rorschach · 10-17-2008, 04:28 PM

What really cracks me up is the welcome sign up... You know, that first sign up you get after a small number of clicks to a sponsor that gets you hooked.

I signed up for a new wegcash account not so long ago, to promote those tube4free sites... I put up a couple of links an hour or so before the end of the period. That (two hour) period, I sent all of about 10 clicks from 2 ads and converted 1:1 - pretty nice seeing $20 income from 10 clicks. Next period, the ratio dropped immediately to a more realistic 1:21; the sites still earn good money, but it's just so fucking obvious what they're doing!

marketsmart · 10-17-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Right

i'd say 25% is industry standard

50% was the norm before nats and mpa...

tical · 10-17-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Do you continue to promote companies like that because the earnings stay better than other companies or do you move on principle?

i've been in both situations... i've left due to principal with some but have stayed with others because even with the cap / shave i make more with them (i've tried to leave but ended up going back because other sponsors just didnt cut it)

i've had the opposite as well.. a long time ago i sent massive amounts of sales to a sponsor here & even after stopping for about a month i had random sale credits come in daily (keep in mind this is with 0 raw & 0 unique hits) - i'm sure stats were being modified there & my sales were being shaved but the bones were threw at me to keep ratios decent

i got the excuse from them that it was ach sales clearing, glitches, etc... ach doesn't take a month to clear

personally i would rather be paid less and not have my stats fucked with than given a high pps that is going to be modified

once you have that seed of doubt planted it makes it very difficult to feel comfortable promoting with paid traffic / adwords / etc... because you never know what your real ROI should be

ShaveBucks · 10-17-2008, 04:50 PM

Don't listen to any of these know nothing cocksmacks that have never even run a program. You can shave what ever the hell you want so long as the affiliate you're shaving is still making good coin at the end of it.
Take CuntingHard for example. That labotomy experiment gone wrong promoted PiBCash even though he KNEW he was being shaved. Why? Because PiBCash was his biggest money maker.
How much were they shaving him for?

55%.

12clicks · 10-17-2008, 06:21 PM

idiots in an idiot thread. No surprise

EscortBiz · 10-17-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

idiots in an idiot thread. No surprise

seriously you should know if shaving is a myth or real you been around the block can you chime in

woj · 10-17-2008, 06:34 PM

I heard rumors that the whole "tube slowdown" thing, is really just bunch of bro program owners getting together and shaving more and more each month...

(jk, not really)

Fabien · 10-17-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach

well i'm at 0:16000 at imlive so far this period, so i'd say the scalpel is set pretty high

Welcome to the fucking club

Supz · 10-17-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MindWaste

shavers should get sclaped.. That is the main reason i ran out of money and lost my mind and myself.. Like im talking 100% shaving..

When i get back in this shit im gonna get a big suit to ya'll so stop that shit. Im connected through microsoft, ibm, And alot of layers.

please share you narcotics.

12clicks · 10-17-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

seriously you should know if shaving is a myth or real you been around the block can you chime in

shaving is a myth.
It used to happen. I can't imagine anyone doing it now.
You're way more likely to see reverse shaving IMO

The Duck · 10-17-2008, 07:13 PM

If shaving niche sponsors shave, does the universe implode?

Iron Fist · 10-17-2008, 07:18 PM

Well it comes down to how much will the unsuspecting affiliate will miss without becoming aware... always a tricky target

rowan · 10-17-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Seems you all expect to get shaved, so I might start doing it just to shut everyone up #1, and #2 make more money.

What is the % of your traffic you expect to lose to razors... 10%? 20?

You need to be a member of the cartel in order for that information to be fully divulged.

10-17-2008, 04:01 PM	#4
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10-17-2008, 04:07 PM	#5
MindWaste Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tac Town Posts: 3,650	shavers should get sclaped.. That is the main reason i ran out of money and lost my mind and myself.. Like im talking 100% shaving.. When i get back in this shit im gonna get a big suit to ya'll so stop that shit. Im connected through microsoft, ibm, And alot of layers. __________________ http://www.HogSex.com http://www.GirlGoesBad.com https://www.HogSludge.com https://www.SaveSolomon.com http://www.EnterSolomon.com http://www.Dream-Hits.com http://www.DeamonSurf.com http://www.Bitcoin-Sol.com http://www.RainRapMusic.com http://www.RibbetHog.com http://WhiteFreeStyleRappers.com http://www.HogFaucet.com

10-17-2008, 04:50 PM	#13
ShaveBucks Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Razor's Edge Posts: 467	Don't listen to any of these know nothing cocksmacks that have never even run a program. You can shave what ever the hell you want so long as the affiliate you're shaving is still making good coin at the end of it. Take CuntingHard for example. That labotomy experiment gone wrong promoted PiBCash even though he KNEW he was being shaved. Why? Because PiBCash was his biggest money maker. How much were they shaving him for? 55%. __________________

10-17-2008, 06:21 PM	#14
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,783	idiots in an idiot thread. No surprise __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

10-17-2008, 06:34 PM	#16
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	I heard rumors that the whole "tube slowdown" thing, is really just bunch of bro program owners getting together and shaving more and more each month... (jk, not really) __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

10-17-2008, 03:41 PM	#1
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	What is the acceptable shave rate now? Seems you all expect to get shaved, so I might start doing it just to shut everyone up #1, and #2 make more money. What is the % of your traffic you expect to lose to razors... 10%? 20?

10-17-2008, 03:42 PM	#2
Mr.Right - Banned For Life I guarantee it Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18,314	i'd say 25% is industry standard

10-17-2008, 04:09 PM	#6
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	well i'm at 0:16000 at imlive so far this period, so i'd say the scalpel is set pretty high

10-17-2008, 04:25 PM	#9
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	fuck shaving whats the point? if you cant payout more dont just be honest

10-17-2008, 04:28 PM	#10
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	What really cracks me up is the welcome sign up... You know, that first sign up you get after a small number of clicks to a sponsor that gets you hooked. I signed up for a new wegcash account not so long ago, to promote those tube4free sites... I put up a couple of links an hour or so before the end of the period. That (two hour) period, I sent all of about 10 clicks from 2 ads and converted 1:1 - pretty nice seeing $20 income from 10 clicks. Next period, the ratio dropped immediately to a more realistic 1:21; the sites still earn good money, but it's just so fucking obvious what they're doing!

10-17-2008, 07:13 PM	#20
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	If shaving niche sponsors shave, does the universe implode? __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

10-17-2008, 07:18 PM	#21
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Well it comes down to how much will the unsuspecting affiliate will miss without becoming aware... always a tricky target __________________ i like waffles