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directfiesta · 10-21-2008, 06:47 PM

This is not the Acorn so called fraud ( in Acorn, nobody voted, they just got registered ..)

In a very important state:

http://wvgazette.com/News/200810200711

WINFIELD, W.Va. - Two more Putnam County voters - Martha Louise Harrington and Michael K. Koon - have come forward about problems they experienced on early-voting electronic machines at the Winfield courthouse.

Last week, other early voters in Jackson and Putnam counties said touch-screen voting machines changed their votes after they tried to punch them in.

Harrington, a retired home health worker who lives in Hurricane, said, "I was very cautious to put my fingernail in the middle of the square. I hit it in the square to vote for Obama. Immediately, it went to McCain.

"A Putnam County poll worker, who seemed very knowledgeable, told me to hit the McCain button to erase it. Then you start over. My next vote held. I think a lot of people, especially elderly people, are not going to catch that.

"I have talked to people who said the same thing happened them when the voted for [Governor Joe] Manchin," Harrington said on Monday. "I hope this publicity makes the public more aware of what is going."

Deputy Secretary of State Sarah Bailey said 21,194 West Virginians had already cast early votes by Friday.

"Early voting becomes more popular every year," she said. "All the voting systems [in West Virginia] are manufactured by ES&S."

Election Systems and Software, a company based in Omaha, Neb., has faced problems and controversies in other states.

In California, for example, Secretary of State Debra Brown issued a legal order on Aug. 3, 2007, banning the use of ES&S machines in any future California election.

Ken Fields, an ES&S spokesman in St. Louis, did not return a telephone call to his office on Monday.

Koon said he had no problem casting an early vote for president.

"However, when I chose Jay Rockefeller - and there is at least a finger's distance between the two choices - it selected Jay Wolfe and printed his name on the receipt.

"I pushed Jay Rockefeller again a few times and it canceled Jay Wolfe. Then I chose Jay Rockefeller again and it verified it."

Koon believes voting machines at the Putnam County Courthouse need to be "calibrated."

Eriic · 10-21-2008, 06:51 PM

Oh Really?

aico · 10-21-2008, 06:51 PM

Ooops. Someone didn't program the vote stealing software to work right.

Rorschach · 10-21-2008, 06:59 PM

Yup... between dodgy voting machines and illegal purging of the electoral roll, McSame has got it sewn up. The Republikkkans have had 8 years of practice to perfect their vote stealing. That's why the polls showing Obama in a clear lead don't mean shit.

uno · 10-21-2008, 07:01 PM

Who would have ever thought that WV would be an important state?

Helix · 10-21-2008, 07:04 PM

Excellent...the patch is working perfectly.

papill0n · 10-21-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Ooops. Someone didn't program the vote stealing software to work right.

jwerd · 10-21-2008, 08:20 PM

PHP Code:


			
$vote = new Voter();

$vote->show_selection_screen();

$tries = 3;

if($_POST['vote_cast'] == "Obama" && $tries < 3) {

  $vote->select_element('McCain');

  $vote->show_selection_screen();

  ++$tries;

} else {

  // Ok, let them have their selection

  $vote->cast($_POST['vote_cast']);

}

TampaToker · 10-21-2008, 08:28 PM

happened here in Florida too go figure

tony286 · 10-21-2008, 08:29 PM

its crazy, they should go back to paper.

Dame · 10-21-2008, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

its crazy, they should go back to paper.

Then they would most probably have same problem as last time with the hanging chads. How about just pen and paper and write down their vote and put it in a locked box.

fsudirectory · 10-21-2008, 09:08 PM

Ive heard about it in other states as well, I wanna say NC. You can report the bad machines to the Obama campaign somewhere on their website and possibly theyll have someone on site? Also report to the poll workers.

ModelShrines · 10-21-2008, 09:35 PM

That's why Obama has 5000 volunteer lawyers, paralegals and law students in Florida alone waiting for issues on election day.

Malicious Biz · 10-21-2008, 10:30 PM

the lord works in mysterious ways, there's no way god is gonna let votes be cast for that anti-christ demon osama.

nico-t · 10-22-2008, 05:06 AM

crazy. This is just fucking rediculous.

DWB · 10-22-2008, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamerhooD

PHP Code:


			
$vote = new Voter();
$vote->show_selection_screen();
$tries = 3;
if($_POST['vote_cast'] == "Obama" && $tries < 3) {
  $vote->select_element('McCain');
  $vote->show_selection_screen();
  ++$tries;
} else {
  // Ok, let them have their selection
  $vote->cast($_POST['vote_cast']);
}

Who let the god damn Russians anywhere near the voting machines?

bloggingseo · 10-22-2008, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Who let the god damn Russians anywhere near the voting machines?

cwd · 10-22-2008, 06:33 AM

Rocks...paint one red for reps or blue for dems...maybe it is heavy to count, but hey, can't get paint wrong, can you?

StuartD · 10-22-2008, 06:38 AM

This is why Obama could go into the election with a 30 point lead and still lose, and the American people will just go "oh well. Here goes another 8 years."

pornguy · 10-22-2008, 07:54 AM

Here we go with another Bush Election.

yys · 10-22-2008, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

its crazy, they should go back to paper.

What a novel idea.

Up here in Canada we use a pencil to mark an 'X' in the circle beside our choices name and slip the folded paper ballot into a sealed box; Not much room for mistakes or misunderstandings. At the close of the polls, members of the respective parties count the ballots by hand and the results are known within hours. No need for hanging chads or screwed up software; just a pencil and a paper ballot.

Tom_PM · 10-22-2008, 08:04 AM

Yes because technology has not figured out yet how to create a paper receipt from an electronical machine that could be counted by humans at need or whim.

CIVMatt · 10-22-2008, 08:06 AM

Good maybe we'll be spared from Obama actually being able to run this country (fyi I dont like mccain either)

directfiesta · 10-22-2008, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yys

What a novel idea.

Up here in Canada we use a pencil to mark an 'X' in the circle beside our choices name and slip the folded paper ballot into a sealed box; Not much room for mistakes or misunderstandings. At the close of the polls, members of the respective parties count the ballots by hand and the results are known within hours. No need for hanging chads or screwed up software; just a pencil and a paper ballot.

.. and when the results are so close, a recount takes place ... easy, we have the ballots ...

StuartD · 10-22-2008, 08:22 AM

The problem isn't that its' not paper, they do print out paper receipts....
it's that the code is secure, no one's allowed to review it. No one's allowed to double check the systems, no one's allowed to watch the process in action. No one's allowed to verify that everything's ok before, during or after.

That's just wrong. If it's supposed to be so important, there'd be 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th measures taken to ensure it's right.

marcjacob · 10-22-2008, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yys

What a novel idea.

Up here in Canada we use a pencil to mark an 'X' in the circle beside our choices name and slip the folded paper ballot into a sealed box; Not much room for mistakes or misunderstandings. At the close of the polls, members of the respective parties count the ballots by hand and the results are known within hours. No need for hanging chads or screwed up software; just a pencil and a paper ballot.

We do that in the UK and their are drawbacks. You do get spoiled slips where people have ticked their choice or signed the ballot paper. If you mark the paper with anything other than an x next to your candidates name, they simply dont count the vote. With machines that doesnt happen, but you get all this bollocks, so I guess your still better off with a pencil and paper.

The Truth Hurts · 10-22-2008, 08:24 AM

Ya know... with poretty much EVERYTHING being caught on video nowadays...
why isn't simple shit like this?

Couldn't be bullshit from obama loving attention whores now could it?
naw.. couldn't be.

marcjacob · 10-22-2008, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD

The problem isn't that its' not paper, they do print out paper receipts....
it's that the code is secure, no one's allowed to review it. No one's allowed to double check the systems, no one's allowed to watch the process in action. No one's allowed to verify that everything's ok before, during or after.

That's just wrong. If it's supposed to be so important, there'd be 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th measures taken to ensure it's right.

Im amazed at that. The machines should be checked by all parties.

StuartD · 10-22-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

Ya know... with poretty much EVERYTHING being caught on video nowadays...
why isn't simple shit like this?

Couldn't be bullshit from obama loving attention whores now could it?
naw.. couldn't be.

http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/hac.../synopsis.html

Watch, learn, grow.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...emocracy&hl=en

MaDalton · 10-22-2008, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yys

What a novel idea.

Up here in Canada we use a pencil to mark an 'X' in the circle beside our choices name and slip the folded paper ballot into a sealed box; Not much room for mistakes or misunderstandings. At the close of the polls, members of the respective parties count the ballots by hand and the results are known within hours. No need for hanging chads or screwed up software; just a pencil and a paper ballot.

thats how its supposed to be

The Truth Hurts · 10-22-2008, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD

http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/hac.../synopsis.html

Watch, learn, grow.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...emocracy&hl=en

I don't want to see a documentary.. (again)
I want to see someone in an actual voting booth press Obama, and see it change to McCain.

StuartD · 10-22-2008, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

I don't want to see a documentary..
I want to see someone in an actual voting booth press Obama, and see it changes to McCain.

Fine, until that happens, don't spout out crap about people being Obama loving attention whores if you refuse to educate yourself first.

directfiesta · 10-22-2008, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

Ya know... with poretty much EVERYTHING being caught on video nowadays...
why isn't simple shit like this?

Couldn't be bullshit from obama loving attention whores now could it?
naw.. couldn't be.

read the article... bozo

The Truth Hurts · 10-22-2008, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD

Fine, until that happens, don't spout out crap about people being Obama loving attention whores if you refuse to educate yourself first.

I've seen hacking democracy. 2 years ago.
Now I want to see it actually happen, in this election, with video proof of the entire voting process...
otherwise, it's exactly what it smells like, bullshit.

The Truth Hurts · 10-22-2008, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

read the article... bozo

I'm sorry, was there something in the article I missed about there being video proof of this happening?
I'm not saying it couldn't, or hasn't happen.
I'm not saying electronic voting machines are infallible.
And I definately believe they should be giving paper receipts.

It just seems odd, that with all the attention this problem has drawn, that there's still a problem with this shit... and in these stories it almost always seems to be the Dem losing the vote to the Republican...

I just want to SEE IT HAPPEN ONCE in this election.
That right there, could/would/should put an end to electronic voting once and for all.

simple.

Manowar · 10-22-2008, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelShrines

That's why Obama has 5000 volunteer lawyers, paralegals and law students in Florida alone waiting for issues on election day.

damn, he's definitely prepared

directfiesta · 10-22-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

I'm sorry, was there something in the article I missed about there being video proof of this happening?
I'm not saying it couldn't, or hasn't happen.
I'm not saying electronic voting machines are infallible.
And I definately believe they should be giving paper receipts.

It just seems odd, that with all the attention this problem has drawn, that there's still a problem with this shit... and in these stories it almost always seems to be the Dem losing the vote to the Republican...

I just want to SEE IT HAPPEN ONCE in this election.
That right there, could/would/should put an end to electronic voting once and for all.

simple.

Voting is private, so hold your breath for a video proof ....

I would of liked a video proof of those stock piles of WMD ...

seeandsee · 10-22-2008, 11:00 AM

fucking robbery!

RobertD · 10-22-2008, 11:11 AM

The smaller details make up parts of a larger picture.

ACLU demands info on domestic military deployments.

.

directfiesta · 10-22-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertD

The smaller details make up parts of a larger picture.

ACLU demands info on domestic military deployments.

.

yup, preparing for a McCain victory

Tempest · 10-22-2008, 11:34 AM

Using touch screens for something as important as voting is idiotic... They need calibration often.. they drift based on temperature, high voltage "spikes" can throw them off etc. etc. etc... morons..

10-21-2008, 06:47 PM	#1
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Cana, DR Posts: 29,585	I hit it in the square to vote for Obama. Immediately, it went to McCain. This is not the Acorn so called fraud ( in Acorn, nobody voted, they just got registered ..) In a very important state: http://wvgazette.com/News/200810200711 WINFIELD, W.Va. - Two more Putnam County voters - Martha Louise Harrington and Michael K. Koon - have come forward about problems they experienced on early-voting electronic machines at the Winfield courthouse. Last week, other early voters in Jackson and Putnam counties said touch-screen voting machines changed their votes after they tried to punch them in. Harrington, a retired home health worker who lives in Hurricane, said, "I was very cautious to put my fingernail in the middle of the square. I hit it in the square to vote for Obama. Immediately, it went to McCain. "A Putnam County poll worker, who seemed very knowledgeable, told me to hit the McCain button to erase it. Then you start over. My next vote held. I think a lot of people, especially elderly people, are not going to catch that. "I have talked to people who said the same thing happened them when the voted for [Governor Joe] Manchin," Harrington said on Monday. "I hope this publicity makes the public more aware of what is going." Deputy Secretary of State Sarah Bailey said 21,194 West Virginians had already cast early votes by Friday. "Early voting becomes more popular every year," she said. "All the voting systems [in West Virginia] are manufactured by ES&S." Election Systems and Software, a company based in Omaha, Neb., has faced problems and controversies in other states. In California, for example, Secretary of State Debra Brown issued a legal order on Aug. 3, 2007, banning the use of ES&S machines in any future California election. Ken Fields, an ES&S spokesman in St. Louis, did not return a telephone call to his office on Monday. Koon said he had no problem casting an early vote for president. "However, when I chose Jay Rockefeller - and there is at least a finger's distance between the two choices - it selected Jay Wolfe and printed his name on the receipt. "I pushed Jay Rockefeller again a few times and it canceled Jay Wolfe. Then I chose Jay Rockefeller again and it verified it." Koon believes voting machines at the Putnam County Courthouse need to be "calibrated." __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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10-21-2008, 06:51 PM	#2
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10-21-2008, 06:51 PM	#3
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10-21-2008, 06:59 PM	#4
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	Yup... between dodgy voting machines and illegal purging of the electoral roll, McSame has got it sewn up. The Republikkkans have had 8 years of practice to perfect their vote stealing. That's why the polls showing Obama in a clear lead don't mean shit.

10-21-2008, 08:28 PM	#9
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10-21-2008, 08:29 PM	#10
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10-21-2008, 09:08 PM	#12
fsudirectory Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 216	Ive heard about it in other states as well, I wanna say NC. You can report the bad machines to the Obama campaign somewhere on their website and possibly theyll have someone on site? Also report to the poll workers.

10-21-2008, 10:30 PM	#14
Malicious Biz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Put Shoe On Head Plz Posts: 4,575	the lord works in mysterious ways, there's no way god is gonna let votes be cast for that anti-christ demon osama.

10-22-2008, 05:06 AM	#15
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	crazy. This is just fucking rediculous.

10-22-2008, 06:33 AM	#18
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10-22-2008, 11:34 AM	#41
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Using touch screens for something as important as voting is idiotic... They need calibration often.. they drift based on temperature, high voltage "spikes" can throw them off etc. etc. etc... morons..