Setting The Drama XXXJay Record Straight

[xxxjay]

I spent about an hour composing this for another board about why I'm reducing my posting here. I think it's pretty clear and concise, and if you actually have a brain - it gives you something to think about. Not that I care what the trolls have to say, but they are good at making your day stressful with their nonsense. This is not drama, it's a drama-killer and should fall of the first page quickly for sure!

1. Don't tell me how to run my business and I won't tell you how to run yours (if you have any). Somebody bitched about nudity on the OCCash.com page on another board. Does pornhub have a warning page? Go bug them. Fight the real fight.

2. As was stated in another thread earlier by my business partner: We've been tweaking the xsales for the last 6 months...above the submit, below the submit, and variety of text schemes. It made 5% difference overall. 5%!!! After all of this fussing on the boards - IT WAS 5%! Now, they are clearly above the submit and with the prices! Surfers get emails with a username, password, cancel links, and number for our support (and always have). Even if they are drunk and didn't see them, we have 24/7 support and gladly will refund without question!!! END OF STORY! Did it ever occur to anyone that people that some surfers take the free offers for other sites, check them out, and then cancel? Belive it or not, it does happen...MORE TIMES THAN NOT! REPEAT FROM LAST THREAD: Look how are xsales are set up now...that is how they will be set up from now and ever and ever. AMEN! This is a dead issue.

3. Did it also ever occur to you guys that you can't fight every single fight you disagree with? It is impossible to separate yourself from everything you find distasteful in this very small industry! The best thing you can do is run your fucking business the best you can and try not to worry too much about what everyone else is doing! I REPEAT: THERE IS NO WAY TO ENTIRELY REMOVE YOURSELF FROM EVERYTHING YOU DISAGREE WITH!! I don't care if it's AFF, zango, xsales, popups, or content that offends you! This is ADULT! This is not a chairity. This is an impluse transaction. This is, "Hey do you want to go in the VIP room?" type shit. IE: Adult Entertainment! It is amazing how many people forget that! There is one processor that is refusing to do business with people that have merchant accounts. It's their world, are just just living in it - FINE! BUT... at the same time they do transactions for programs that own tube sites, steal content, and use it to create sales and traffic for their own sites. I could pull a George Bush and "You an either you are with the terrorists or against them?" Sure! If I wanted to scream and whine that what they are doing isn't fair I guess I could, but rather than tell them how to do their business, I just do what I can to control the flood of our content onto the tube sites and do business with their competitor.

4. Do you know what the #1 thing that has stunted OCCash's growth over the years? The fact that we've remained revshare for so long! After hearing just as much screaming and whining about the revshare model, we finally went PPS. To go PPS and pay $35 on a 1$ trial we needed xsales. Remember, we are paying our 35x what your initial transaction is (actually 70x when you take our processing). We update with exclusive content twice a day. We have higher than normal content costs because we actually have product, but wait...here is the really funny part...FAST FORWARD TO 2008: OPEN UP THE LATEST AVNONLINE AND READ "THE THE GOSPAL ACCORDING TO..." SECTION: OCCASH IS IN THE TOP 10 EARNERS OF ALL PROGRAMS FOR EVERY PERSON THAT POSTED THEIR STATS! That?s because they were patient and didn?t make a run for the fast money and let the rebills grow! Adult online is all about the rebills!

The way this industry is set up: IT IS BUILT TO FAIL! Everybody wants the highest payout, but they don't want you to actually be able to make money in order to pay them. As programs, we are at the top of the food chain, if we aren't making money, how can we be paying it?

Jesus?THINK, THINK, THINK!

All that aside, if it were up to me, this is how adult online will work:

1. All the illegal tubes site would go away.
2. Xsales would go away.
3. Payouts would be 50/50 revshare.
4. People would be go back to paying for content like they used to!

That's a business plan that is built to succeed and that is what I'm in favor of. Till then you just have to adapt and do what you can to get by.

If you actually read this whole post...congratulations: YOUR IQ JUST WENT UP 10 POINTS!

IF NOT: Now flush a 20 dollar bill down the toilet!

Just my 3 cents!

Jay

[pornlaw]

Sig spot....

[WiredGuy]

I hope #3 of your list of things to happen in adult doesn't happen!
WG

[Spunky]

Interesting read man.good points

[NaughtyRob]

Very well said.

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Adult online is all about the rebills!

[Sands]

Good read, especially about the x-sells. Regardless of a program's or affiliate's opinion of them, it's good to de-mystify them a bit by revealing the factors that go into their placement and how you handle customer support. Thanks!

[marketsmart]

jay you don't know anything....

actually, you are one of the few people i actually enjoy listening to.

you are honest about business and you tell it how you feel from your heart, not from what you think people want to hear.

although i respect the fact that you listened to people's opinions about cross sales, the sad fact is that you should only worry about making money.

no one gives a fuck about this industry other than how they can make money anyway possible.. actually thats not 100% true, there are people that care about this industry, but most of the biggest players don't.

this industry thrives on self destruction and selfishness..

there are a few companies and people i root for and hope they are able to ride out the economy and the current state of affairs..

for the rest, i am glad i got out when i did and i hope you finally reap what you sow..

there is still so much money to be made in adult, but the majority would rather let their own greed destroy it than work together to try to save it...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

All that aside, if it were up to me, this is how adult online will work:

1. All the illegal tubes site would go away.
2. Xsales would go away.
3. Payouts would be 50/50 revshare.
4. People would be go back to paying for content like they used to!

In an honest world .......

[tony286]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

All that aside, if it were up to me, this is how adult online will work:

1. All the illegal tubes site would go away.
2. Xsales would go away.
3. Payouts would be 50/50 revshare.
4. People would be go back to paying for content like they used to!




Jay

From what Im reading about the future of the economy, your wishes may all happen.

[Imortyl Pussycat]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

3. Did it also ever occur to you guys that you can't fight every single fight you disagree with?

but it makes the no-life losers feel really big and important when they make feeble attempts to tear you down. arguing with you gave them their only reason to live that week, feel good about it

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

j
for the rest, i am glad i got out when i did and i hope you finally reap what you sow..

LOL, with all due respect, if you are out of the Biz...why are you still posting on GFY?

[psili]

My post doesn't mean much on various levels, but:

Thanks for a solid post.

[fris]

damn i was hoping to set the record crooked

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Jesus?THINK, THINK, THINK!

All that aside, if it were up to me, this is how adult online will work:

1. All the illegal tubes site would go away.
2. Xsales would go away.
3. Payouts would be 50/50 revshare.
4. People would be go back to paying for content like they used to!

That's a business plan that is built to succeed and that is what I'm in favor of. Till then you just have to adapt and do what you can to get by.

If you actually read this whole post...congratulations: YOUR IQ JUST WENT UP 10 POINTS!

IF NOT: Now flush a 20 dollar bill down the toilet!

Just my 3 cents!

Good points nig.

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

LOL, with all due respect, if you are out of the Biz...why are you still posting on GFY?

because i still consider getting back in.. i am waiting to see what happens after the new year..

if enough people get pushed out, i might jump back in..

right now, its not worth the investment imho...

[DepravedPreacher]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

All that aside, if it were up to me, this is how adult online will work:

1. All the illegal tubes site would go away.
2. Xsales would go away.
3. Payouts would be 50/50 revshare.
4. People would be go back to paying for content like they used to!

What do you know, I actually agree with Jay. I'll try to remember that next time I see you in person and you wonder at why you can't make eye contact with me.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

because i still consider getting back in.. i am waiting to see what happens after the new year..

if enough people get pushed out, i might jump back in..

right now, its not worth the investment imho...

Very smart. There is going to be a mass exodus soon. The people know what's up should still have room.

[nico-t]

what is the monthly revenue of your link list?
Asking because i think link lists are pretty much history....

[Adam X]

yeah the noose is getting tighter once again.. ouch.. we'll see who hangs on.

[PR_Sebas]

interesting read

[Bojangles]

Nice post. My IQ just went up 10 points.




Thanks, XXXJay.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by DepravedPreacher

What do you know, I actually agree with Jay. I'll try to remember that next time I see you in person and you wonder at why you can't make eye contact with me.

LOL...I'll have to admit, I love the way you did the hybrid blog / linklist that is in your sig. That thing should rock when google picks it up. Email me [email protected] if you want to trade links.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by nico-t

what is the monthly revenue of your link list?
Asking because i think link lists are pretty much history....

I've watched the traffic drop from 250k visitors per day to about 15k visitors a day. It doesn't make shit anymore. Some of it was some bad shuffles from Google, some of the traffic loss is just that people are over the format.

Various and I are actually trying to make it into something more relevant now.

www.Snizzshare.com does ok, but it is very tough for legal tubes to compete with illegal ones. Hopefully the illegal ones will implode under their own bandwidth costs soon. That is, if people would stop funding them.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I've watched the traffic drop from 250k visitors per day to about 15k visitors a day. It doesn't make shit anymore. Some of it was some bad shuffles from Google, some of the traffic loss is just that people are over the format.

Various and I are actually trying to make it into something more relevant now.

www.Snizzshare.com does ok, but it is very tough for legal tubes to compete with illegal ones. Hopefully the illegal ones will implode under their own bandwidth costs soon. That is, if people would stop funding them.

holy shit thats a huge drop.... asked it because i used to see link lists at the top SE spots all the time and that seems all over nowadays....

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by nico-t

holy shit thats a huge drop.... asked it because i used to see link lists at the top SE spots all the time and that seems all over nowadays....

The number one results for "porn", "xxx", and "free porn" all got there by buying their quite a bit of their backlinks. I'm surprised Google hasn't penalized them yet.

You can always help them along:
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Keep in mind, I still think you're a douchebag.

That being said, congrats on moving the xsales up above the submit, makes you a better man and a more honest program.

[brassmonkey]

i dont do well with lots of words ok thank you

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i dont do well with lots of words ok thank you

LOL...then you should probably avoid the blog business. It is kind of based on words.

LOL

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Retox Josh

I still think you're a douchebag.

The feeling is mutual.

[Big_D]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

The feeling is mutual.

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


talk shit about jay to my face, i honestly dare you...................

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Big_D

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


talk shit about jay to my face, i honestly dare you...................

Oh my fucking god, eat shit you stupid fucking idiot, go get another damn porn company tattoo on your face. You wouldn't do nothing to me in person, you're just a fucking idiot talking like a big man.

Blah blah blah, he bought me a drink at a show, we talked, we're BFF you say anything bad about him and i'll cut you, blah blah blah

[KillerK]

I still think the Zango shit makes you a complete moron.

How you knowingly let AFF fuck you over then are like it's cool. I'd have mad respect if you'd told them to fuck off then and not promoted them.

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I've watched the traffic drop from 250k visitors per day to about 15k visitors a day. It doesn't make shit anymore.

I'm glad I'm not the only one being killed by tubes here, good thing you invested into the paysite business as a backup ;)
WG

[Big_D]

Originally Posted by Retox Josh

Oh my fucking god, eat shit you stupid fucking idiot, go get another damn porn company tattoo on your face (right arm asshole). You wouldn't do nothing to me in person, you're just a fucking idiot talking like a big man.

Blah blah blah, he bought me a drink at a show, we talked, we're BFF you say anything bad about him and i'll cut you, blah blah blah

in the words of an asian, PWEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE show up at a show that im at.......

hhhahahaha, first off, im a bigger man than you will ever be, second off, well you can lick my taint, and third, do the world a favor and fade away (aka die), ive hung with jay more times than you can count you non-cut but sack lickin ass motherfucker........

we dont like you at all, your a nuesence (spell check), secondly a post whore, unfortunately i see why jay quit the forum, for the simple fact that douche's like your ass exists.........

we hate you, and not in a good way, do the fucking world a favor and pick up a bartending job so you can give away free drinks and ALMOST seem fucking cool, ..........

please die, and thats from a drunk man...........and a bartender............

[Big_D]

Originally Posted by Retox Josh

Oh my fucking god, eat shit you stupid fucking idiot, go get another damn porn company tattoo on your face. You wouldn't do nothing to me in person, you're just a fucking idiot talking like a big man.

Blah blah blah, he bought me a drink at a show, we talked, we're BFF you say anything bad about him and i'll cut you, blah blah blah

even after reading it three times, im still saying, NAME THE FUCKING PLACE YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Agent 488]

you let a teenage fat troll get to you - c'mon bro ....

[Big_D]

2801 N. Rainbow Blvd #261
las vegas, nev mothafuckin ada
89108, Ill beat your douche ass.............................cough...........wa nker

[Agent 488]

josh/jaysin is fat kid from a town of 4,000 that works at at fast food restaurant literally who has been banned from most boards for being a goof - this guy is old news - he's just jealous that he has to bankroll a baby who isn't even his - and mad that you make $$$ and fuck hot bitches - j if you want to do some link scnizzle leave yer email ....

[datatank]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I'm glad I'm not the only one being killed by tubes here, good thing you invested into the paysite business as a backup ;)
WG

Bounce Rate
Avg. Time on Site


Finally get you ?

[Big_D]

im waiting for a reply RETARDS JOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[datatank]

Originally Posted by Big_D

2801 N. Rainbow Blvd #261
las vegas, nev mothafuckin ada
89108, Ill beat your douche ass.............................cough...........wa nker

Pizza on its way
Hope you like anchovies


Im gonna get you a pool installed next week too.

Originally Posted by Big_D

im waiting for a reply RETARDS JOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I think he went to bed. It is not worth fighting over. You are better than that.

[Big_D]

a girl that doesnt want to hear from steve and seem as big as an igit as you says.........................................she cant speak her mind................(((((O:

[Imortyl Pussycat]

Originally Posted by Big_D

im waiting for a reply RETARDS JOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

he's askin his mom first

[Big_D]

Originally Posted by JaneB

I think he went to bed. It is not worth fighting over. You are better than that.

im better than that when i see your vajayjay in this thread

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I'm glad I'm not the only one being killed by tubes here, good thing you invested into the paysite business as a backup ;)
WG

Yeah, you know how the SEO game goes...up one month, down the next! The thing that sucks with these tubes is the bought all their backlinks. There is no SEO value of haveing embedded videos in <object> tags that I am aware of.

The warez are just as bad, probably worse - when it comes to fucking up the SERPS.

The thing that makes tubes particularly evil to me is the fact that it just isn't geeks that are hip to them now. Some kid that is turning 18 just now probably thinks paying for porn is a ludicrous idea. Hell, even I think that nd I'm trying to sell it.

I can't help but wonder when the money supply will hit the production side of things. The girls don't get paid that much as it is. The tubes are free, there's no need for VOD...DVD sales are already dead...where does this whole "porn is free" mentality stop?

I see the "User Generated" porn on pornhub and stuff. That is just dangerous IMO...for health and 2257 reasons.

[papill0n]

95% of the people giving you shit wish they could be you

[Agent 488]

me big d and jane d are going to do some afterhours ....

[Agent 488]

xxxjay can come too ...