Question for paysite webmasters and owners - GoFuckYourself.com

camperjohn64 · 11-21-2008, 07:15 AM

I bet most paysite owners don't know the answer to this question. But you should!!

"How much are you getting paid per picture view?"

In other words, in your members area, when someone views a picture of your hot model/models/whatever, how much are you getting paid?

Here is one formula as I see it. There could be more factors but here is the easiest way to calculate it:

total_monthly_earnings / total_pictures_delivered

Where:
total_monthly_earnings = your income, minus webmaster commissions.
total_pictures_delivered = all the pictures that all your members view in a month.

If you have 100 members, paying $29.95 per month ($3000 per month income), and you're delivering 50000 members area pictures per month, then you're getting paid 6 cents per picture.

Have you ever done that calculation? Do you even track how many members are pictures you are sending out? I would be really interested to know the real numbers, not guesses. Answers like "Oh I would guess about..." or "It's not important, what matters is bandwidth or this or that"... Those are pussy answers.

How much you are actually getting paid per picture? Do your members have a wide gap in how much they pay per picture (some paying 3 cents per view, while others paying 30 cents?)

HorseShit · 11-21-2008, 07:23 AM

why do you ask?

Fletch XXX · 11-21-2008, 07:27 AM

nice, i like threads like this.

im also a nerd for the "how much per click" stats too...

CIVMatt · 11-21-2008, 07:28 AM

Interesting but I have better things to think about

BV · 11-21-2008, 08:03 AM

That info would be about as useful as how many hairs I pull out when I wipe my ass.

However, which ones they stroked it to would be better info IMO.

Barefootsies · 11-21-2008, 08:15 AM

Barefootsies · 11-21-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt

Interesting but I have better things to think about

camperjohn64 · 11-21-2008, 08:43 AM

This is so awesome. So far all the answers are "I don't care about how much money, my penis is much too small to find out how to improve my business".

So you really don't know how much you're getting paid? Awesome.

camperjohn64 · 11-21-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

why do you ask?

Same thing as asking "What is your convertion ratio?". If you spend $100 on advertising, you should be at least somewhat aware of how much you get in return. If you have no idea if you're making $105 in return or $95 that's a problem.

When you shoot content, how much per picture do you get paid?

Stephen · 11-21-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by camperjohn64

When you shoot content, how much per picture do you get paid?

It's important to know, especially when you handle the entire distribution chain, i.e. are a photographer with a paysite; shooting, distributing and monetizing your own material.

It's nice to know how much you're making when someone sees your clip on say AEBN and when the same clip is viewed elsewhere, like on HotMovies, a clips site or your own paysite.

Saying "who cares, it's all money" isn't good enough

DutchTeenCash · 11-21-2008, 09:34 AM

ok say its 5 cent or 5 dollar

so what do you do next with this info?

Peter Romero · 11-21-2008, 09:38 AM

Surfers and girls look at pictures - men buy video. Get it straight.

andy83 · 11-21-2008, 09:40 AM

doubt any sponser would give u a honest answer.. but yeah, that info will be interesting.

AnniKN · 11-21-2008, 10:04 AM

Although it is indeed something interesting, there will always be people who are paying a dollar per picture, or 5 dollars per video and others who are not even paying a cent... but each compensates the other and every picture made is there forever to convert new users and retain the existing ones, and will be paid for many times.

Personally, I am developing my own CMS for our future paysites, and it indeed has a tracking method for pictures viewed and videos downloaded, so I will know about this

fuzebox · 11-21-2008, 10:14 AM

I don't have any photos in my members areas, unless you count the thumbnails the members click to view the videos

camperjohn64 · 11-21-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Romero

Surfers and girls look at pictures - men buy video. Get it straight.

Really? Is this what your members mostly pay for?

camperjohn64 · 11-21-2008, 10:46 AM

>> doubt any sponser would give u a honest answer.. but yeah, that info will be interesting.

This is why I wanted to ask for ratio, and not just ask "Hey, how much money do you have in your bank account and what is your bank account # and password". I am hoping that this is a question that people will ask themselves just as much as I want to know it.

>>ok say its 5 cent or 5 dollar. so what do you do next with this info?
Well first I would compare it with others. Knowing your convertion ratio, or how much your paying for bandwith, or whatever x/y is useful to compare with how much someone else is paying for bandwidth or x/y.

>>Although it is indeed something interesting, there will always be people who are
>>paying a dollar per picture, or 5 dollars per video and others who are not even paying
>>a cent... but each compensates the other and every picture made is there forever to
>>convert new users and retain the existing ones, and will be paid for many times.

I think this is why I want to get at the root of an entire site. On average, what kind of numbers are you seeing?

How about this then, let's change the question. About how many pictures does your average member view per month/day? Does anyone have stats on that? How much do you charge per month on your site?

camperjohn64 · 11-21-2008, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I don't have any photos in my members areas, unless you count the thumbnails the members click to view the videos

Wow I've really opened up a can of worms here.

Let's extend the question to videos too then: How much per minute of video do you get paid?

Again, in your members area only. How many minutes of video on average are your members viewing per day/month, and how much do you charge per month?

I am asking all this, as a root of the business fundamental: "Know where your money comes from".

Tom_PM · 11-21-2008, 10:52 AM

I'm pretty sure some of the spreadsheets and dashboards out there would be staggering in their ability to provide minute details like that. To the owner(s) and top managment maybe.

camperjohn64 · 11-21-2008, 12:22 PM

Bump.

Anyone got numbers yet?

jmcb420 · 11-21-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

which ones they stroked it to would be better info IMO.

Thats what i'm saying. I dont care how many pictures you look at, I care who you look at.

camperjohn64 · 11-24-2008, 12:04 AM

Bump.

So doesn't anyone know what their content is worth?

mynameisjim · 11-24-2008, 12:14 AM

The person that counts my money would know that although I would probably find out about it through one my intermediaries, as none of my staff is allowed to talk to me directly or even make eye contact with me.

However, I fail to see how knowing the number you are looking for will give you any insight into how to make more money.

11-21-2008, 07:15 AM	#1
camperjohn64 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,531	Question for paysite webmasters and owners I bet most paysite owners don't know the answer to this question. But you should!! "How much are you getting paid per picture view?" In other words, in your members area, when someone views a picture of your hot model/models/whatever, how much are you getting paid? Here is one formula as I see it. There could be more factors but here is the easiest way to calculate it: total_monthly_earnings / total_pictures_delivered Where: total_monthly_earnings = your income, minus webmaster commissions. total_pictures_delivered = all the pictures that all your members view in a month. If you have 100 members, paying $29.95 per month ($3000 per month income), and you're delivering 50000 members area pictures per month, then you're getting paid 6 cents per picture. Have you ever done that calculation? Do you even track how many members are pictures you are sending out? I would be really interested to know the real numbers, not guesses. Answers like "Oh I would guess about..." or "It's not important, what matters is bandwidth or this or that"... Those are pussy answers. How much you are actually getting paid per picture? Do your members have a wide gap in how much they pay per picture (some paying 3 cents per view, while others paying 30 cents?) __________________ www.gimmiegirlproductions.com Last edited by camperjohn64; 11-21-2008 at 07:18 AM..

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11-21-2008, 10:46 AM	#17
camperjohn64 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,531	>> doubt any sponser would give u a honest answer.. but yeah, that info will be interesting. This is why I wanted to ask for ratio, and not just ask "Hey, how much money do you have in your bank account and what is your bank account # and password". I am hoping that this is a question that people will ask themselves just as much as I want to know it. >>ok say its 5 cent or 5 dollar. so what do you do next with this info? Well first I would compare it with others. Knowing your convertion ratio, or how much your paying for bandwith, or whatever x/y is useful to compare with how much someone else is paying for bandwidth or x/y. >>Although it is indeed something interesting, there will always be people who are >>paying a dollar per picture, or 5 dollars per video and others who are not even paying >>a cent... but each compensates the other and every picture made is there forever to >>convert new users and retain the existing ones, and will be paid for many times. I think this is why I want to get at the root of an entire site. On average, what kind of numbers are you seeing? How about this then, let's change the question. About how many pictures does your average member view per month/day? Does anyone have stats on that? How much do you charge per month on your site? __________________ www.gimmiegirlproductions.com

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11-24-2008, 12:14 AM	#23
mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	The person that counts my money would know that although I would probably find out about it through one my intermediaries, as none of my staff is allowed to talk to me directly or even make eye contact with me. However, I fail to see how knowing the number you are looking for will give you any insight into how to make more money. __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert