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Old 12-01-2008, 09:08 AM   #1
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Obama commits first unconstitutional act

Man that did not take long!

The second clause of Article 1, Section 6, of the Constitution reads,
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"No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office."
Clinton can not be appointed as Secretary of State. Last presidents to break this law Nixon and Carter I see he is in good company there. I thought Obama was going to uphold the constitution?
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I'm guessing her term as Senator ended when she was introduced as the Sec of State.
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Oops, thats it. Redo the election.
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oh please - she's giving up her Senate seat - that's what the law intended. your interpretation is the wrong one.
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what part of "during the Time for which he was elected," dont you guys understand?
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lol...who didn't see this coming, it's her 'payback' for moving aside so he can win....they knew she had to chance to beat mccain, so their handlers told her to set aside and she'll have a cabinet position...

politics is all smoke and mirrors....why else would you appoint someone who drastically differ on your views for foreign policy as your SS...

same shit different toilet
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what part of "during the Time for which he was elected," dont you guys understand?
If you want to play semantics, Hillary isn't a "he".
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If you want to play semantics, Hillary isn't a "he".
its not semantics, it is plainly written.

and I still have my doubts she is a woman! jk
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lol...who didn't see this coming, it's her 'payback' for moving aside so he can win....they knew she had to chance to beat mccain, so their handlers told her to set aside and she'll have a cabinet position...

politics is all smoke and mirrors....why else would you appoint someone who drastically differ on your views for foreign policy as your SS...

same shit different toilet
maybe its so she dont run against him in 2012?
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Man that did not take long!

The second clause of Article 1, Section 6, of the Constitution reads,


Clinton can not be appointed as Secretary of State. Last presidents to break this law Nixon and Carter I see he is in good company there. I thought Obama was going to uphold the constitution?

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hes being arrested now by the nypd I hope he doesnt go for his wallet



I think you and I are probably the only people here who will get that.
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Yup, probably is unconstitutional. Republicans (and Jews) like Hillary at SoS, so nothing will be said of it and it'll just be one of those entertaining debates for legal scholars like Lloyd Bentson's appointment.

Hillary is fourth in line to the Presidency though and that's just three three Vince Fosters away!!
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I think you and I are probably the only people here who will get that.
Why do you think that? Don't 9 million or so people call the NYC area home?

The Diallo case was huge, and not just in the City.
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The actual legal appointment doesn't happen until Jan20, so as long as she gives up her seat by then he hasn't, but good for you on trying to spread lies and keep the country divided...
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The "Emoluments" happened before January 20th by executive order, doesn't matter when she steps down. But this would have effectively given Bush veto power on Obama's appointments and that's not what the clause intended. The courts would see the distinction from it being a executive order from the emoluments being legislated.
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The actual legal appointment doesn't happen until Jan20, so as long as she gives up her seat by then he hasn't, but good for you on trying to spread lies and keep the country divided...
Reread it.

"during the Time for which he was elected"

Its not about dividing its about following the constitution.

Why should anyone just blindly follow the president? Did you blindly follow Bush so you could "unite" the country? Or should people just shut up and follow the person you choose to be followed?
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No doubt the only reason any person in government hasn't mentioned this yet is because they're gathering up their legal teams in order to pre-impeach Obama.
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what part of "during the Time for which he was elected," dont you guys understand?
what part of " she is not yet secretary of State " don't you understand .... I was under the impression, but I could be wrong, that another woman was in post... Condi I think
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I think you and I are probably the only people here who will get that.
Guess again.
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Reread it.

"during the Time for which he was elected"
If you're going to be that much of an idiot to "imply" that stepping down before being apointment means that that line still applies, then you're STILL wrong since it says HE and Clinton is a SHE... Fucking moron..
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They're not going to try to impeach obama, just becasue he's Black doesn't mean he's not one of them....Check him out, he's a part of the CFR, his cabinet all has ties to the CFR, trilateral commission, etc. it's not change whatsoever. Just checking out who's his COS alone should scare the fuck out of people.....

I mean let's be real, no way she was going to beat McCain, he (Obama) had all the young people ready to vote, so they had her bow out quietly, no matter who wouldv'e had won, WE was on the losing end...

It's not about black, white, republican, democrats, etc... smoke and mirrors


Then again the last prez who was about change caught a hot one, so I guess I would play by the rules, too.
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Then you have the ignorant black folks thinking he's going to change the system and on the other hand you got the ignorant white folks scared he's going to change the system. funny to me.

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Hypocrisy. Not long ago they where debating each other and pretending to have different views on most issues, now they are best friends and work side by side.

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If you're going to be that much of an idiot to "imply" that stepping down before being apointment means that that line still applies, then you're STILL wrong since it says HE and Clinton is a SHE... Fucking moron..
You drank a lot of that kool aide didnt you?
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Reread it.

"during the Time for which he was elected"

Its not about dividing its about following the constitution.

Why should anyone just blindly follow the president? Did you blindly follow Bush so you could "unite" the country? Or should people just shut up and follow the person you choose to be followed?
if we're going to be cutting hairs.. it clearly stipulates "He"; therefore, does not apply to female appointments!
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Hypocrisy. Not long ago they where debating each other and pretending to have different views on most issues, now they are best friends and work side by side.

It's all a scam ladies and gentlemen!
Dude we get it, you are like a broken record. nwo, nwo, now, nwo.
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maybe its so she dont run against him in 2012?
that was my first thought when she was announced
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if we're going to be cutting hairs.. it clearly stipulates "He"; therefore, does not apply to female appointments!
In the English language when the sex is unknown it is common to use "he"
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I'm guessing her term as Senator ended when she was introduced as the Sec of State.
She's not sec of state until Jan 20th.
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This is almost as bad as lying about a blowjob. I am shocked and appalled.

This clearly has to do with the fact that yearly pay raises are now common for those positions because of inflation. I guarantee the supreme court would agree. Then again this type of thing even making it to the supreme court would be a waste of tax dollars.

The title of this thread immediately gives away your clear bias or lack of understanding. Clinton would be the one breaking the law NOT Obama. The judicial branch is responsible for upholding the constitution in this situation.

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In the English language when the sex is unknown it is common to use "he"
BUT, when the Constitution was written, men were the only ones eligible to hold any public office. So this does, in fact, mean "he" gender specific. Just like when Lincoln said "all men are created equal," he was actually referring to just men, not women.
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what part of "during the Time for which he was elected," dont you guys understand?
The only reason that was in there, was to keep polititions from giving a pay raise to the position before entering it. It really has nothing to do with the current situation and it's not a problem like it may have been in the past now that we have easy access to govt records.
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The only reason that was in there, was to keep polititions from giving a pay raise to the position before entering it. It really has nothing to do with the current situation and it's not a problem like it may have been in the past now that we have easy access to govt records.
Don't bother explaining. It's more thna obvious theat IllTestYourGirls is a racist. He just can't say he hates n1ggers so he uses these BS excuses.
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Don't bother explaining. It's more thna obvious theat IllTestYourGirls is a racist. He just can't say he hates n1ggers so he uses these BS excuses.
Fact is I would be ragging on McCain if he won. Only brain dead Obama sheep say things like what you just said. I hope it was sarcasm.
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Fact is I would be ragging on McCain if he won. Only brain dead Obama sheep say things like what you just said. I hope it was sarcasm.
If you had a brain you would have seen I was hardly a Obama sheep. Go back and read my posts from the primaries and tell me where I was a Obama sheep. nice try tard.
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If you had a brain you would have seen I was hardly a Obama sheep. Go back and read my posts from the primaries and tell me where I was a Obama sheep. nice try tard.
So where the fuck do you get off calling me a racist?
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I think it's cute how republicans start worrying about the constitution NOW.
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People dont care about politics. They tie loyalties to one side like its a fucking ball game. Once you wear the sweater, you'll back that team no matter what.

The fact that most people believe in this fucking circus is beyond me... I fear the new year will bring disasters beyond our worst nightmares. It's been sort of hinted at from different public persons.
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Keep talking so everyone can clearly see how stupid you are...
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Yeah Bush was a RINO piece of shit. I am glad his 8 years is almost over. Not looking forward to the next 4. I hope Obama can fix this shit but from his actions it does not seem like he can. Every neo-con is praising his choices as president elect.

Oh wait saying I dont like Bush makes me part of the Black Power movement.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:50 PM   #49
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I imagine she will resign her senate seat by January 20, so it is a non-issue.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:54 PM   #50
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He's not "acting as Senator or Representative". He's the "President Elect" and he's only telling us that once he becomes President, he'll be appointing her. As of yet both of them have no official powers.
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