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Old 12-07-2008, 10:25 AM   #1
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obama's big plan for the country

In the wide-ranging appearance, Obama once again gave strong indications that he?s backing off his stance on two key campaign pledges ? whether to repeal President George W. Bush?s tax cuts for the rich, and his call for bringing U.S. combat troops home from Iraq in 16 months. On a lighter note, he sketched a vision of an Obama White House alive with cultural and musical events, saying he hoped to include children from local Washington, D.C., schools.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/16279

yep I'm sure a bunch of black kids dancing and singing in the whitehouse will make things better. I think we've elected 'nero' president

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A politician not coming through with his campaign promises??? No way!
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You dont have enough hope for change. Just wish really really really hard and things will change.
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yep thats all he is going to do have kids sing. Come on guys this is boring. lol
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In the wide-ranging appearance, Obama once again gave strong indications that he?s backing off his stance on two key campaign pledges ? whether to repeal President George W. Bush?s tax cuts for the rich, and his call for bringing U.S. combat troops home from Iraq in 16 months. On a lighter note, he sketched a vision of an Obama White House alive with cultural and musical events, saying he hoped to include children from local Washington, D.C., schools.

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yep I'm sure a bunch of black kids dancing and singing in the whitehouse will make things better. I think we've elected 'nero' president
So what your saying is that you want him to do those things? I prefer a president who is willing to change his plan based on the current situation and sound advice. It looks to me like I got what I wanted.
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yep thats all he is going to do have kids sing. Come on guys this is boring. lol
He is backing down on almost every single one of his "change" issues and implementing the failed Bush policies of bail outs and war. Open your eyes.
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So what your saying is that you want him to do those things? I prefer a president who is willing to change his plan based on the current situation and sound advice. It looks to me like I got what I wanted.
Thank you its what someone does who is smart. Havent they had enough of we will hold the course even though it drags us down the toilet.
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He is backing down on almost every single one of his "change" issues and implementing the failed Bush policies of bail outs and war. Open your eyes.
really please share real things not pundit bullshit. How are you going to fix this mess without spending money? please share also
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really please share real things not pundit bullshit. How are you going to fix this mess without spending money? please share also
First off you can not say we CAN spend and DEBT our way out of this. Our credit line is shot and we can only print the money we need to "spend". That will cause inflation and make things far worse than letting things fail and deflate. We need to get back to saving and producing not debting and spending. Debting and spending will only prolong the pain.

I would rather not see my savings disappear before my eyes because of the inflation Obama and Bush are intentionally trying to create. Yes they are trying to cause inflation. That is what they mean when they say "keep housing prices up".

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I guess I missed the part where he was sworn and has actually done something so that you can judge him a failure.
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So what your saying is that you want him to do those things? I prefer a president who is willing to change his plan based on the current situation and sound advice. It looks to me like I got what I wanted.
dude, I think a minstrel show in the whitehouse will fix everything. I'm soooooo excited!!!
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I guess I missed the part where he was sworn and has actually done something so that you can judge him a failure.
they are sore losers lol
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they are sore losers lol
personally I don't give a fuck if mary poppins or aunt jemima is president. I just want things to get better for all of us $.02
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personally I don't give a fuck if mary poppins or aunt jemima is president. I just want things to get better for all of us $.02
Youre the one talking about minstrel shows. By Xmas he will have all the players ready to go, one of the first ever to be ready to go so fast.
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All I know is since Obama got elected gas prices have dropped. Down to 1.44 here today lol. Obviously this "change" thing must be working. lol
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I guess I missed the part where he was sworn and has actually done something so that you can judge him a failure.
You don't need to be sworn in to back away from your pledge... it's the typical politician maneuver of promising everything idealistic under the sun to get elected and then afterwards worry about backtracking and appeasing the other politicians, being realistic. Many of the things promised by all runners were unrealistic pandering. There are lots of things that he CAN do, though... I just hope that he does.
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You're really surprised that while he needed to get elected it was "Change! Change! Change!" and now that he is elected it's "Business as usual!"? You really thought Obama wasn't going to be owing to the people that got him to the highest office in the land? You really expected things to be _THAT_ different? Come on, I know most of you are slow and foolish but surely some of you can think at a fifth grader level.

It doesn't much matter though because Obama was still a better choice than McCain.
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you fools Obama is part of the New World Order, things will be getting worse.
Get you're tin hats ready americans because you will be attacking Iran soon - so get some pussy now.
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Get you're tin hats ready americans because you will be attacking Iran soon - so get some pussy now.
Yes, of course, the New World Order. An orgination so super secret that President's just let it slip out in speaches. Luckily, we have brain trusts like yourself around to help the rest of us sleuth out the truth. Even if you're pretty much a failure in every other aspect of your life, you're an Internet hero to us!
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Oh god, not that tool again.

According to Shiff's own words, if we follow his advice we'll be in for a 10 plus year economic recession and maybe even a full blown depression.

And that's if we do what he says we should do!

Methinks maybe we would do well to seek a better solution
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Get you're tin hats ready americans because you will be attacking Iran soon - so get some pussy now.
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You dont have enough hope for change. Just wish really really really hard and things will change.
It took Bush 8 years to really fuck things up globally, it will take more than a wish to change that..
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He is backing down on almost every single one of his "change" issues and implementing the failed Bush policies of bail outs and war. Open your eyes.
He's not even president yet, moron!
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Whats the difference if he lets the tax cuts expire or cuts them right now? We are talking about a year. Hes giving the middle class a tax cut. He said hes going to have the joint chief of staffs come in and draw a plan to withdraw troops. The process has already begun anyhow, I dont see his plan changed. Might be 16 months, might be 20? whats the big deal?
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Get you're tin hats ready americans because you will be attacking Iran soon - so get some pussy now.
A war with Iran will drag you along buddy, whatever rat hole you happen to hide in..
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Oh god, not that tool again.

According to Shiff's own words, if we follow his advice we'll be in for a 10 plus year economic recession and maybe even a full blown depression.

And that's if we do what he says we should do!

Methinks maybe we would do well to seek a better solution
The other solution they are offering is doing the exact same thing we have been doing. That worked out well. The problem with that theory is we can not keep doing what we have been doing. Our credit has been cut. But I guess the FED does have a printing press, who cares if we go into hyper-inflation.

Has anyone asked how much money we need to print to get ourselves out of our crisis? First it was 750 billion and everything will be fine. oops wrong, the fed then printed 1.7 trillion in one week to stabilize the market and get credit flowing... oops that didnt work.
Lets just print up 10 trillion to see if that works.
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All I know is since Obama got elected gas prices have dropped. Down to 1.44 here today lol. Obviously this "change" thing must be working. lol
Same gas price change here in Holland in percentages but we still have the same local president so that can't be it
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He's not even president yet, moron!
No shit. And he is already backing down! LOL cant wait to see what he really does and how much of his bullshit lies you all fed on do not happen.
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Same gas price change here in Holland in percentages but we still have the same local president so that can't be it
See that forest over there?


Nope all them fuckin trees are blockin ma view...
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Get you're tin hats ready americans because you will be attacking Iran soon - so get some pussy now.
ok, let's make a bet then if you are so sure:
You name a day, week, month or year that this happens.
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OH well at least you guys have got a half normal looking president our prime minister looks like yogi bear on drugs and talks funny

Besides you wont have to worry to much about governments in 2027 as a huge rock from outerspace is gonna show them who the real boss is...
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The other solution they are offering is doing the exact same thing we have been doing. That worked out well.
According to Shiff, we've been doing the "wrong" thing since sometime back in the early 70's. Now, according to my arithmetic, the last 35 years haven't been all that bad in economic terms.

Our present problems can be traced back to the housing bubble and the subsequent free fall of housing prices. Once housing prices stabalize (whenever the hell that happens), things should start settling down.

And if they don't?

If they don't, I sure hope we can come up with a better fucking plan than putting the rope around our own necks as Shiff would have us do.
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According to Shiff, we've been doing the "wrong" thing since sometime back in the early 70's. Now, according to my arithmetic, the last 35 years haven't been all that bad in economic terms.

Our present problems can be traced back to the housing bubble and the subsequent free fall of housing prices. Once housing prices stabalize (whenever the hell that happens), things should start settling down.

And if they don't?

If they don't, I sure hope we can come up with a better fucking plan than putting the rope around our own necks as Shiff would have us do.
It is naive to think this is about the housing bubble. Schiff knows the cure where as those suggesting more debt and more spending are suggesting more cancer for a cancer victim.

But I guess if you hope really hard things might change.
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Obama changes positions faster GFY getting trolled. With that said, that might be his stronger suit since it reflects flexibility--a flexibility which is required by the current economic collapse. It's the Democratic majority you have to keep an eye on--it's hard to keep the "tax and spend" train in the station.
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All I know is since Obama got elected gas prices have dropped. Down to 1.44 here today lol. Obviously this "change" thing must be working. lol
I seem to remember you swearing up and down that Obama had no chance to even win. You are banned from any thread with Obama in the title as you were so fucking owned. Move along hater.
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I seem to remember you swearing up and down that Obama had no chance to even win. You are banned from any thread with Obama in the title as you were so fucking owned. Move along hater.
Of all people you should just stay quiet about matters like that.

Remind us, how did the whole Ron Paul thing work out?
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Obama changes positions faster GFY getting trolled. With that said, that might be his stronger suit since it reflects flexibility--a flexibility which is required by the current economic collapse. It's the Democratic majority you have to keep an eye on--it's hard to keep the "tax and spend" train in the station.
Flexibility to toe the line of the failed Bush/fed policies.
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I seem to remember you swearing up and down that Obama had no chance to even win. You are banned from any thread with Obama in the title as you were so fucking owned. Move along hater.
Says the Ron Paul fanatic. Hey I could be like you would be if Obama had lost. ELECTION WAS RIGGED Voter FRAUD!! DieBold! Wah wah. lol Sore winner
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:53 PM   #44
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It is naive to think this is about the housing bubble. Schiff knows the cure where as those suggesting more debt and more spending are suggesting more cancer for a cancer victim.

But I guess if you hope really hard things might change.
Ha, as long as it goes against what is seen as popular, you'll think they have the answer.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:58 PM   #45
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Ha, as long as it goes against what is seen as popular, you'll think they have the answer.
When you have been told by a group of people for a year that we were not in a recession and we were not heading to a recession then BANG we are in the biggest economic crisis since the great depression. Then you have another group that says we are in a recession and we are heading to a disaster where our credit will be cut. Then the truth comes out and we have been in a recession for a year and our credit has been cut off. Who do you listen to for answers?
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:18 PM   #46
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Of all people you should just stay quiet about matters like that.

Remind us, how did the whole Ron Paul thing work out?
Sorry but I like the guys ideas. I never thought he would become president but I also never said that Palin/Mccain would win like stickynuts.
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:23 PM   #47
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Damn man. I can't believe you said that.
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Even Obama is not stupid enough to raise taxes in a recession. You should be praising him for his pragmatism.
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