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Old 09-29-2009, 08:52 PM   #251
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So, uhh.. MrGuy are you a content writer?
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:26 PM   #252
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I guess that's how we say "Goodbye" in this industry....
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:42 PM   #253
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i always thought chio was a fake nic
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:45 PM   #254
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He overcharged with that abp shit...
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:52 PM   #255
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:24 PM   #256
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Chio doesn't deserve your hatred... although I can see why you'd think so. It was a misguided attempt, propper business ethics, ethos, procedures, policy and management were not followed. The same applies to every one of you who signed up - don't get on your high horses when there were so many warning alarm bells on this one and not one of you did propper due diligence. I'm not defending anyone... but everyone has a degree of blame in this and it's a lot easier to blame someone else than your own stupidity. Frankly - a lot of you really are 'stoopid americans (- joke for those of you who have had your senses of humour removed).
I still don't get this part. So he essentially created a fraudulent company that never existed, bilked people into using it based on those fraudulent claims, and then ran and hid like a coward when his incompetence caught up to him. But hey, it's not his fault.

I don't care how nice the guy is, how many burgers he cooked for you, or what wonderful family members he surrounds himself with. Your story corroborates the fact that what he did in my opinion was fraud. Perhaps people should have questioned him more, but instead of looking in the mirror, I think a lot of people should be contacting the district attorney down in Florida if they lost anything of signifigance. Especially considering he's "working in the financial industry". Might be a good idea for those who he deals with now know his history of deception and fraud.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:27 PM   #257
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:41 PM   #258
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I still don't get this part. So he essentially created a fraudulent company that never existed, bilked people into using it based on those fraudulent claims, and then ran and hid like a coward when his incompetence caught up to him. But hey, it's not his fault.

I don't care how nice the guy is, how many burgers he cooked for you, or what wonderful family members he surrounds himself with. Your story corroborates the fact that what he did in my opinion was fraud. Perhaps people should have questioned him more, but instead of looking in the mirror, I think a lot of people should be contacting the district attorney down in Florida if they lost anything of signifigance. Especially considering he's "working in the financial industry". Might be a good idea for those who he deals with now know his history of deception and fraud.
I agree. Don't forget "con man" is short for "confidence man" which was based on someone who used to dress as a nobleman, approach and talk to people like he knew them, then ask "are you confident enough to lend me your watch?" ... when they did he'd simply run off with it.

Real confidence men are likeable. That's how they stiff their mark.

If the company setup was dodgy from the start then why would things be expected to improve?
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:45 PM   #259
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Sad to hear. I spent a lot of time on the phone with him and he seemed like a good guy. I never spent a dime with him, he gave me stuff for free and even lent me money in a particularly low point in my life.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:19 PM   #260
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I still don't get this part. So he essentially created a fraudulent company that never existed, bilked people into using it based on those fraudulent claims, and then ran and hid like a coward when his incompetence caught up to him. But hey, it's not his fault.

I don't care how nice the guy is, how many burgers he cooked for you, or what wonderful family members he surrounds himself with. Your story corroborates the fact that what he did in my opinion was fraud. Perhaps people should have questioned him more, but instead of looking in the mirror, I think a lot of people should be contacting the district attorney down in Florida if they lost anything of signifigance. Especially considering he's "working in the financial industry". Might be a good idea for those who he deals with now know his history of deception and fraud.
If VC wasn't a real company, what company was working with the banks? And is MrGuy saying Chio owes 6x of what was in the bank at one moment time and he took the rest before? MrGuy why don't you make this more interesting and tell us how much $ is involved or total lost or total owed. And how does one person go from doing this to working in the financial industry afterward? And what is this 'new thing' he's working on in the financial sector? Is he planning to pull the same thing in non adult processing?

Losing money is no laughing matter, or having it stolen.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:20 AM   #261
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If VC wasn't a real company, what company was working with the banks? And is MrGuy saying Chio owes 6x of what was in the bank at one moment time and he took the rest before? MrGuy why don't you make this more interesting and tell us how much $ is involved or total lost or total owed. And how does one person go from doing this to working in the financial industry afterward? And what is this 'new thing' he's working on in the financial sector? Is he planning to pull the same thing in non adult processing?

Losing money is no laughing matter, or having it stolen.
Under $100K from my understanding was owed at the end. I know there was 10-20k left, of which I've no idea if any went back to customers. Without being 100% accurate I believe circa $70K was owed with $15k in the account.

Working doing personal trading now on financial markets and developing systems for them - not any service-based ones where he'll be pirating your money.

Business that was working with bank was an old incorporated business from the AVS days. It was a legal incorporated entity, but not Verified Charge, Inc.

Anyone who couldn't be bothered to read it, thinks I wrote too much - then the post probably wasn't for you. Perhaps if I'd written it in the form of an erotic story with Chio's lucious lips running over your cash it would have been better... If you did lose money or were involved and still couldn't be bothered to read it - fair enough. If you don't like my sarcastic witty wonderful sense of humour or love of cheeseburgers then I'm really that that fussed

PocketKangaroo - I guess what I meant by that paragraph was there was never any man intentions to run away with money or to "do an iBill", and had it not been for one or two truly abysmal decisions twinned with time recession took a plunge last Oct then VC would have muddled through and continued to pay everyone until it all got sorted. I whole heartedly agree on all your points but was merely trying to show it wasn't part of some calculated evil plan, more lack of foresight.... which I agree is absolutely inexcusable when dealing with other peoples money - hence a desire from my part to clarify this.

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Old 09-30-2009, 04:07 AM   #262
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I'd really like my $400 and an apology and something for my time, but I'd settle for the $400.
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:45 PM   #263
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Johnny Faghorn, which is friends with this guy is whining about $350 - where is everyone's money Johnny?

Better yet, where is Chio? YARRRGH!
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:48 PM   #264
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Johnny Faghorn, which is friends with this guy is whining about $350 - where is everyone's money Johnny?

Better yet, where is Chio? YARRRGH!
You are a fucking idiot!

I thought you were dark jedi for a second, but even he isnt that fucking stupid...

if you are,.... youre that fucking stupid apparently....

This has nothignt to do with the other thread... Ill be t you shoe dosnt approve of what happened...

in fact shoe get in here.... whens the last time you hung out with or really even talked to Chio?
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:53 PM   #265
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You are a fucking idiot!

I thought you were dark jedi for a second, but even he isnt that fucking stupid...

if you are,.... youre that fucking stupid apparently....

This has nothignt to do with the other thread... Ill be t you shoe dosnt approve of what happened...

in fact shoe get in here.... whens the last time you hung out with or really even talked to Chio?
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:07 PM   #266
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And youre a complete moron that has no trolling skills whatsoever...

Youre doing as good of a job as headless did...
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:02 PM   #267
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Chio's VerifiedCharge not paying their WMs - thanks for posting, nitroxjeff.
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