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Old 02-02-2009, 03:15 PM   #101
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too bad there isn't a pirate Chio Pets
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:20 PM   #102
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doesn't surprise me...

just do a search on old threads about this so called "chio".

He's known for these nasty practices and scam people out.

He never ever revealed his real name.. just "chio". Classic practice from criminals.
Try not to be a complete tosser all your life.

A person becomes a 'criminal' once a jury in a court of law finds a defendant guilty as charged and a judge sets a sentence to be carried out.
Until then he has not been convicted of a charge and as such is not a 'criminal'.

You know nothing about the current situation so your 'opinion' is totally worthless.
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:23 PM   #103
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Try not to be a complete tosser all your life.

A person becomes a 'criminal' once a jury in a court of law finds a defendant guilty as charged and a judge sets a sentence to be carried out.
Until then he has not been convicted of a charge and as such is not a 'criminal'.

You know nothing about the current situation so your 'opinion' is totally worthless.
Anybody that takes peoples money with no explanation and never gives it to them is considered a criminal. There is no need for judges or juries. People are owed money. He is the one that owes them. he is dodging the issue. Criminal. Are you that fucking stupid?
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:24 PM   #104
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Everyone in this thread was using VC as a payment processor. It worked awesome for me for 2 years, no other biller came close in terms of features and rates. It's too bad
i'm not sayin, i'm just sayin ....
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:46 PM   #105
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Anybody that takes peoples money with no explanation and never gives it to them is considered a criminal. There is no need for judges or juries. People are owed money. He is the one that owes them. he is dodging the issue. Criminal. Are you that fucking stupid?
Well said, buddy.

nitroxjeff, eat that motherfucker.
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:52 PM   #106
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what Rob Content said, period.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:12 PM   #107
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Ok, I just tried an ACH withdrawal and got an "invalid password" error.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:20 PM   #108
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Anybody that takes peoples money with no explanation and never gives it to them is considered a criminal. There is no need for judges or juries. People are owed money. He is the one that owes them. he is dodging the issue. Criminal. Are you that fucking stupid?
i agree with ya on this
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:21 PM   #109
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I just tried to call Chio. Again for 25,000,000th time. No answer, sometimes it goes strait to VM or rings then goes to VM. So IDK I'm starting to get very worried about him. Those who know him better then myself some insight would be helpful.


good luck but doesnt look like youll be getting any money unfortunately
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:25 PM   #110
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:31 PM   #111
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some good news would be nice.

I know Chio will come back and pay everyone. I just hope it's sooner rather then later.

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Old 02-02-2009, 11:14 PM   #112
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some good news would be nice.

I know Chio will come back and pay everyone. I just hope it's sooner rather then later.

Maybe he could give some stocks ... was done before ...
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No good news here. No pay, no word...
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Old 02-03-2009, 02:13 AM   #114
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anyone who used this service deserves to be fully owned for being an idiot.
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anyone who used this service deserves to be fully owned for being an idiot.
Or maybe you can buy a clue. Most people using his service were doing so for a reason. I doubt many people simply chose him over ccbill. Usually the smaller processors pickup the stuff that the bigger ones don't want (bdsm, etc).
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:33 AM   #116
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No, I do not. Please get your facts straight.
Ok...you sell a TOY that makes men think that it will make their penis bigger.....

Nice how degenerate Snake Oil Salesmen love to run their yaps about others.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:14 AM   #117
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Hope Chio is doing ok, he's a good guy
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:43 AM   #118
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Bump. Where is Chio?
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:30 AM   #120
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Ok...you sell a TOY that makes men think that it will make their penis bigger.....

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what goes around, comes around.... this criminal nicknamed chio deserved it...
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:02 PM   #123
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Looks like he's not such a good guy now that he's stolen everyone's money.
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Looks like he's not such a good guy now that he's stolen everyone's money.
I know a lot of people will find it very strange for me to be sticking up for Chio after coding Autoblogger Pro Stand Alone, and not being paid any money off of the sales despite providing a YEAR of support for it. But that's less than $100,000, probably, and is water under the bridge at this point. I do have a check from Chio for $14,000 that bounced for insufficient funds, though. Not sure what value that has, except to frame as a lesson in business.

That being said, I will tell you that I have known Chio for years now, and although we no longer talk after I got fucked out of the ABP money, he always at least tried to do the right thing with most other people ... well, except the coder before me, who got fucked out of what he was owed after being promised it for about 6 months.

But aside from those people, the only people I can think of who got fucked by Chio are the people who paid for Bliggo ads which either never ran or provided little to no results because the network was over-hyped and was only a handful of sites. But some of those got their money back.

Aside from that, the only people Chio fucked over are the people who haven't been paid through Verified Charge.

I guess I got a little sidetracked here ... I forgot about a lot of those people along the way.

I may be able to shed some light on the phone situation. The "United States Toll Free" number is likely his 866 Vonage number, which rings at his house in Florida. From what I know, the "Florida Office" is also a Vonage number that rings at his house in Florida. The "New York" office number is probably the Vonage number he got to look like he did business in New York, and so his Long Island family could call him "locally" on it. The "United Kingdom Office" is probably either Guy, the UK coder, or his UK Vonage number that he uses to keep in touch with Guy. The Netherlands number, which isn't listed, is probably the Vonage number that he was planning to get to talk to relatives in the Netherlands. As far as I know, all of these numbers ring to his house in Florida. I am unaware of any "real" office for Verified Charge in New York, Florida (aside from his house), the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, or elsewhere. The last I heard, it was a merchant account "piggybacking" the sites.

Especially if the addresses are fake, I'd assume that wasting your money on calling all of the different numbers is highly unlikely to provide any different result.

I have his cell phone number, but I am not sure if it's still good. Obviously, I won't post it on GFY. I have his Florida address and the name he gave me (which may be fake, because he seemed to give out fake names a lot) if that helps anyone trying to pursue the money owed to them.

Anyway, I hope all of his personal problems are resolved quickly and successfully. He's a decent guy on a personal level, and I don't wish him any ill-will, despite how everything went down. Water under the bridge at this point.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:37 PM   #125
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I think Shap summed it up.

There is no other business in this world where people trust their money with a person who acts as a pirate. This can only happen in adult. I'm not gonna say i'm the smartest person here but i got to be smarter than a good bunch of people as i didn't get ripped off by a pirate.
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Try not to be a complete tosser all your life.

A person becomes a 'criminal' once a jury in a court of law finds a defendant guilty as charged and a judge sets a sentence to be carried out.
Until then he has not been convicted of a charge and as such is not a 'criminal'.

You know nothing about the current situation so your 'opinion' is totally worthless.
So someone who kills another person, and never gets caught. Thats not a criminal.

You are a genius.
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how much money are we talking about being 'frozen' in Verified Charge?

anyone has any ballpark figures?
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Are you referring to Ark as his former programmer, Edgeprod?
No, and I don't want to "out" anyone who doesn't want their name spread around. This person was promised payment, then promised a computer instead of payment, then simply never paid. I've talked to a bunch of people who have not been paid through Verified Charge, and it's the same story: excuses, "I'll pay tomorrow," and "the check is already in the mail" kind of stuff from the people who have gotten in touch, and they're the "lucky" ones who actually got to talk to him. The other programmer went through the same thing .. I should know, because I was the "new" guy listening to Chio laugh about it. I was stupid not to walk away right then, because he turned around and did the same thing to me right afterwards, but he burned me for a LOT more money, and dragged my name through the mud in the process. I covered for him, as was our deal, and kept silent ... but if he's ripping more people off now, it's just ridiculous.

The ball-lickers keep sticking up for him as a "stand up guy," but history tells a different story. The crap he used to talk about some of the guys who "love" him in this thread and others is ridiculous. One guy, with blood all over his face, would have EGG all over his face if he knew how much of an idiot Chio thought he was.

I'm rambling.
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Sad story. Wonder what's going on.
Either way, hope him and his family are okay.
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No, and I don't want to "out" anyone who doesn't want their name spread around. This person was promised payment, then promised a computer instead of payment, then simply never paid. I've talked to a bunch of people who have not been paid through Verified Charge, and it's the same story: excuses, "I'll pay tomorrow," and "the check is already in the mail" kind of stuff from the people who have gotten in touch, and they're the "lucky" ones who actually got to talk to him. The other programmer went through the same thing .. I should know, because I was the "new" guy listening to Chio laugh about it. I was stupid not to walk away right then, because he turned around and did the same thing to me right afterwards, but he burned me for a LOT more money, and dragged my name through the mud in the process. I covered for him, as was our deal, and kept silent ... but if he's ripping more people off now, it's just ridiculous.

The ball-lickers keep sticking up for him as a "stand up guy," but history tells a different story. The crap he used to talk about some of the guys who "love" him in this thread and others is ridiculous. One guy, with blood all over his face, would have EGG all over his face if he knew how much of an idiot Chio thought he was.

I'm rambling.
Well hope he is ok, I don't wish him any harm, though there is some Karma going on here. Ill leave it at that.
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:30 PM   #134
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I think Shap summed it up.

There is no other business in this world where people trust their money with a person who acts as a pirate. This can only happen in adult. I'm not gonna say i'm the smartest person here but i got to be smarter than a good bunch of people as i didn't get ripped off by a pirate.
Yeah, it's an odd industry for sure. The only one I know of where you can get a reputation for being an honest businessman by posting photoshopped pictures on message boards.
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Well hope he is ok, I don't wish him any harm, though there is some Karma going on here. Ill leave it at that.
Yeah, well .. what can you do? I just hope everyone eventually gets paid. People will be back to talking about what a "stand up guy" Chio is in a short time, I'm sure.

Haven't heard any updates on if anyone got paid, except on ICQ. Anyone at all get ANY money?
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Yeah, well .. what can you do? I just hope everyone eventually gets paid. People will be back to talking about what a "stand up guy" Chio is in a short time, I'm sure.

Haven't heard any updates on if anyone got paid, except on ICQ. Anyone at all get ANY money?
I would think if someone DID get paid they'd speak up.
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What happened to Jace? He's usually in these Chio threads.
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I know a lot of people will find it very strange for me to be sticking up for Chio after coding Autoblogger Pro Stand Alone, and not being paid any money off of the sales despite providing a YEAR of support for it. But that's less than $100,000, probably, and is water under the bridge at this point. I do have a check from Chio for $14,000 that bounced for insufficient funds, though. Not sure what value that has, except to frame as a lesson in business.

That being said, I will tell you that I have known Chio for years now, and although we no longer talk after I got fucked out of the ABP money, he always at least tried to do the right thing with most other people ... well, except the coder before me, who got fucked out of what he was owed after being promised it for about 6 months.

But aside from those people, the only people I can think of who got fucked by Chio are the people who paid for Bliggo ads which either never ran or provided little to no results because the network was over-hyped and was only a handful of sites. But some of those got their money back.

Aside from that, the only people Chio fucked over are the people who haven't been paid through Verified Charge.

I guess I got a little sidetracked here ... I forgot about a lot of those people along the way.

I may be able to shed some light on the phone situation. The "United States Toll Free" number is likely his 866 Vonage number, which rings at his house in Florida. From what I know, the "Florida Office" is also a Vonage number that rings at his house in Florida. The "New York" office number is probably the Vonage number he got to look like he did business in New York, and so his Long Island family could call him "locally" on it. The "United Kingdom Office" is probably either Guy, the UK coder, or his UK Vonage number that he uses to keep in touch with Guy. The Netherlands number, which isn't listed, is probably the Vonage number that he was planning to get to talk to relatives in the Netherlands. As far as I know, all of these numbers ring to his house in Florida. I am unaware of any "real" office for Verified Charge in New York, Florida (aside from his house), the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, or elsewhere. The last I heard, it was a merchant account "piggybacking" the sites.

Especially if the addresses are fake, I'd assume that wasting your money on calling all of the different numbers is highly unlikely to provide any different result.

I have his cell phone number, but I am not sure if it's still good. Obviously, I won't post it on GFY. I have his Florida address and the name he gave me (which may be fake, because he seemed to give out fake names a lot) if that helps anyone trying to pursue the money owed to them.

Anyway, I hope all of his personal problems are resolved quickly and successfully. He's a decent guy on a personal level, and I don't wish him any ill-will, despite how everything went down. Water under the bridge at this point.
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I was never paid.

Let's not hijack the thread away from the victims getting paid.
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You wouldn't happen to have ark's contact info would ya? I needed to talk to him about some programming he did for me a while back.
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You wouldn't happen to have ark's contact info would ya? I needed to talk to him about some programming he did for me a while back.
I never knew him .. sorry man.
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people are kinda being unfair to people who act like pirates on the Internet - Chio's just one guy, one bad apple possibly, don't hold his actions against all the other people who act like pirates on internet forums but in reality are serious businessmen with whom you can trust your money.
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:15 AM   #143
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people are kinda being unfair to people who act like pirates on the Internet - Chio's just one guy, one bad apple possibly, don't hold his actions against all the other people who act like pirates on internet forums but are serious businessmen with whom you can trust your money.
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:19 AM   #144
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I know a lot of people will find it very strange for me to be sticking up for Chio after coding Autoblogger Pro Stand Alone, and not being paid any money off of the sales despite providing a YEAR of support for it. But that's less than $100,000, probably, and is water under the bridge at this point. I do have a check from Chio for $14,000 that bounced for insufficient funds, though. Not sure what value that has, except to frame as a lesson in business.

That being said, I will tell you that I have known Chio for years now, and although we no longer talk after I got fucked out of the ABP money, he always at least tried to do the right thing with most other people ... well, except the coder before me, who got fucked out of what he was owed after being promised it for about 6 months.

But aside from those people, the only people I can think of who got fucked by Chio are the people who paid for Bliggo ads which either never ran or provided little to no results because the network was over-hyped and was only a handful of sites. But some of those got their money back.

Aside from that, the only people Chio fucked over are the people who haven't been paid through Verified Charge.

I guess I got a little sidetracked here ... I forgot about a lot of those people along the way.

I may be able to shed some light on the phone situation. The "United States Toll Free" number is likely his 866 Vonage number, which rings at his house in Florida. From what I know, the "Florida Office" is also a Vonage number that rings at his house in Florida. The "New York" office number is probably the Vonage number he got to look like he did business in New York, and so his Long Island family could call him "locally" on it. The "United Kingdom Office" is probably either Guy, the UK coder, or his UK Vonage number that he uses to keep in touch with Guy. The Netherlands number, which isn't listed, is probably the Vonage number that he was planning to get to talk to relatives in the Netherlands. As far as I know, all of these numbers ring to his house in Florida. I am unaware of any "real" office for Verified Charge in New York, Florida (aside from his house), the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, or elsewhere. The last I heard, it was a merchant account "piggybacking" the sites.

Especially if the addresses are fake, I'd assume that wasting your money on calling all of the different numbers is highly unlikely to provide any different result.

I have his cell phone number, but I am not sure if it's still good. Obviously, I won't post it on GFY. I have his Florida address and the name he gave me (which may be fake, because he seemed to give out fake names a lot) if that helps anyone trying to pursue the money owed to them.

Anyway, I hope all of his personal problems are resolved quickly and successfully. He's a decent guy on a personal level, and I don't wish him any ill-will, despite how everything went down. Water under the bridge at this point.
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:47 AM   #145
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I would think if someone DID get paid they'd speak up.
Really? Would you?
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:15 AM   #146
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I was never paid.

Let's not hijack the thread away from the victims getting paid.
right never paid never coded all money went to an unknown pirate and everyone has a perfect excuse for everything.....
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:24 AM   #147
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right never paid never coded all money went to an unknown pirate and everyone has a perfect excuse for everything.....
"fool me once shame on you if you fool me you can't get fooled again" GWB
I have a check from Chio that was declined for "insufficient funds" .. that's the compensation I got for a year of my life.

I'm not sure if you're making sense to yourself at all, but back to our regularly schedule programming. This will be my last reply to you, because it's just plain rude and inconsiderate of you to distract from the topic at hand: getting people's money back from a scammer.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:28 AM   #148
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I do have a check from Chio for $14,000 that bounced for insufficient funds, though. Not sure what value that has, except to frame as a lesson in business.
It has some value. Turn it over to your district attorney.

And the rest of the shit Chio has done, reminds me a whole lot of someone else I know with a couple of fake nics on this board as well. Someone here that did some jail time for animal cruelty.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:31 AM   #149
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It has some value. Turn it over to your district attorney.

And the rest of the shit Chio has done, reminds me a whole lot of someone else I know with a couple of fake nics on this board as well. Someone here that did some jail time for animal cruelty.
Unfortunately, his kids need him, or I would do just that.

Although he claims to be a millionaire, the only assets we've been able to find are a $136,900 house which looks like a bigger shithole than Baddog's house (no offense Baddog, I know your house is worth trillions because of where it's located). It's not even worth going after the deadbeat .... except now he has the VC money he stole, so maybe it's worth reconsidering.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:32 AM   #150
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Not for nothin', Mr Pheer, but does it creep you out how similar our avatars are? You're like a much sexier version of me.
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