MAJOR Industry Announcment From Bama & PersianKitty (Pic) - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

munki · 01-05-2009, 09:19 PM

fiddy cartels biatches

mikeyddddd · 01-05-2009, 09:19 PM

Mutt · 01-05-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama

Well, there are 2 answers for that question depending on if you're a webmaster or program owner:

If you're a webmaster:
We run an incredibly complex set of custom scripts that is integrated with NATS that tracks what site the member joined. That then interfaces with the billing company that processed the join. In our case, we're currently using CCBILL, EPOCH and WTS. At the point of the rebill, we look at what site the member has at the top of their Cartel list and if it's the same site, we leave them as a member of that site. If it's another paysite, we remove access to the first paysite and move them over to the new one.

This is not like an AVS however - they do not get access to any/all paysites in the system. Only the one they joined and any "bonus" sites that might come with that join from the same program.

If you're a program owner:

Imagine Paul, an adult webmaster with a network of 10 free sites, sends ?Little Lucy Paysite? 50 joins per week. Paul works hard to match his traffic to the appropriate paysite but has never heard of your webmaster program so he?s not promoting any of your paysites. You, as a program owner, make absolutely no revenue from Paul, know nothing about him, or how good his traffic is.

Now consider if ?Little Lucy Paysite? and your paysites are in the cartel. Those 50 members per week could read one of your paysites review and after enjoying ?Little Lucy?; they move their membership to one of your paysites. You?re making revenue from Paul?s hard work now ? money you?d never had made otherwise.

Paul sees that his members are frequently moving over to your paysites and decides to take a look at your webmaster program and is drawn to your different program offerings & payouts and promotional material.

They're joining through AdultCartel. We run our own join pages and billing and may or may not use processors that the actual program uses on the sites.

They absolutely do. Not only do they get access to the actual members sections of the site they joined, they get all of the content we have to offer as well.

The first thing I did was sit down with Epoch, CCBill and WTS and explained what we were going to do and how we wanted to do it. They took it to the powers that be and came back to me with a list of explicit requirements that I must follow for each site in the program. We've done that and is why I said in a previous post that there are tons of steps that I have to do for each site we add into the program

No, we run our own processing and then pay the program owners and webmasters ourselves.

very interesting - this must have been quite a sales/educating job on CCBILL and Epoch and paysite owners - I assume if they all joined in they must have approved of and liked the concept.

when a surfer joins a site for example AndiPink.com - is he getting access to the same members area run by Panchodog or a mirror/alternate version of it under Adult Cartel's control?

I ask because I was always led to believe that VISA's rule was that if you sold access to a site that you had to be the owner of the domain/content - i'm probably not explaining the rule correctly - Kimmy Kim would know. I do see that the tour domains are under your control - but the members areas?

Brujah · 01-05-2009, 09:24 PM

Interesting. Doesn't XPAYS have a patent on this model? Or is this different?

Mutt · 01-05-2009, 09:32 PM

it's a good idea - there was a recent thread by EscortBiz suggesting a similar concept where CCBILL paysite customers could join another CCBILL processed paysite without going through the join process again. Not exactly the same idea but close.

It would appear that this is doable for CCBILL and they should be working on it.

Zuzana Designs · 01-05-2009, 09:36 PM

Very Interesting.. So if a member is at lets say Twistys.. And they want to check out Rhino Pays.. and decide they would like to go back to twistys.. Can they do that as well ?? I'm just tring to make sure I understand it 100% .. And also do you have clips we can use on our legal tube site ?? Also do you offer free hosting on my domain ?

crockett · 01-05-2009, 09:36 PM

Looks interesting, will have to see how it works out.

Bama · 01-05-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Interesting. Doesn't XPAYS have a patent on this model? Or is this different?

XPays has a patent on affiliate pooling. We don't pool affiliates.

Bama · 01-05-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

Very Interesting.. So if a member is at lets say Twistys.. And they want to check out Rhino Pays.. and decide they would like to go back to twistys.. Can they do that as well?

Yes ma'am - they sure can!

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

And also do you have clips we can use on our legal tube site ?? Also do you offer free hosting on my domain ?

We don't yet but they do plan to offer both! We're importing as quick as my little fingers can type

Iron Fist · 01-05-2009, 09:46 PM

This sounds good.... can we get someone OTHER than Bama who's signed up and can explain how it works from their perspective? I'm very interested in promoting this, and when I jump in its for a long long time... soI don't want to waste my time on a program that will be gone, or the business model just isn't worth it.

Anyone? (No offence Bama, but 2nd unbiased opinion is what i'm after here)

TheSenator · 01-05-2009, 09:48 PM

ok...So, affiliates get 50% no matter what...

cybermike · 01-05-2009, 09:58 PM

Earn 10% When A Customer Rolls Their Membership Into Another Program

hmm?

Brad Mitchell · 01-05-2009, 10:06 PM

Congratulations on the launch! This looks very innovative, I'm going to go check it out.

Brad

Bama · 01-05-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cybermike

Earn 10% When A Customer Rolls Their Membership Into Another Program hmm?

You're reading what we pay the program owners when the member joins through one of their sites and then move over to another site they don't own.

Their site brought the member into the Cartel so it's our way of making sure they earn some money for the life of the member too.

MarkTiarra · 01-05-2009, 10:12 PM

Bama and PK are as good as people get in this biz. I hope this kicks total ass for you guys!

collegeboobies · 01-05-2009, 10:29 PM

Tip: Dont use fake tits in ads

Brujah · 01-05-2009, 10:30 PM

can you send an email upon signup or later, with ALL of the link codes? Or a dump so that we don't have to grab them one by one?

cybermike · 01-05-2009, 10:32 PM

Is there a webmaster referal?

Robbie · 01-05-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by collegeboobies

Tip: Dont use fake tits in ads

Counter tip...Contrary to the prevailing opinion on GFY, there are a LOT of guys who love fake tits. Otherwise the movies that fake tit bitches have made all these years wouldn't have sold so well, the fake tit strippers wouldn't make the most money, and the sites with fake tit girls wouldn't be selling so well. Lot of guys on here that don't seem to like anything, so I wouldn't put a whole lot into that.

Bama · 01-05-2009, 10:34 PM

If anyone wants to see how the members section works so you can get a feel of how things are set up - hit me up on ICQ and I'll give you a user/pass to use.

Brujah · 01-05-2009, 10:55 PM

Adult Cartel says 50% recurring ($12.43 recurring)

Andi Pink is $34.99 with AdultCartel and $34.95 through PanchoDog. I get 60% recurring (consoles) with Panchodog.

Am I earning less by using AdultCartel?

fris · 01-05-2009, 10:59 PM

this is a great idea, suprised someone didnt come up with it sooner, hope it works out for you.

Bama · 01-05-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

Adult Cartel says 50% recurring ($12.43 recurring)

Andi Pink is $34.99 with AdultCartel and $34.95 through PanchoDog. I get 60% recurring (consoles) with Panchodog. Am I earning less by using AdultCartel?

Yes - and no.

Let's just for the sake of easy math say that we both charge $35.00 per month.

When you use X program and they pay out 60% and let's assume a 2 month membership (cause stuff divides nicely by 2 and that's also about average per site per join) = $21.00 x 2 = $42.00. Member leaves and you stop earning revenue - runs off to some other webmaster's site and clicks their banner and joins Y site.

With us, member joins, you earn 12.43/month X 2 - member moves his membership over to site Y (in our program so he doesn't have to join/quit/join/quit to do it) stays there 2 months and you've made $49.72

Since there are 150 sites to jump around to - retentions should be quite nice for you.

But hey, in all practicality, there are tons of different programs and all have different payouts/specials and that's the beauty of things - you, as the webmaster have choices as to what best suites your needs. Do you want the quick dollar up front or do you prefer growth over time?

If you prefer a PPS model, be sure to visit all of the programs that have sites in our system as they all offer great values. We might pay out a little less per month, but we expect the months to be much longer.

Brujah · 01-05-2009, 11:28 PM

How does 50% of $34.99 = $12.43

Iron Fist · 01-05-2009, 11:30 PM

I've been promoting revshare for a long long time, so this is actually pretty huge for us who believe in the revshare and recurring model.

Bama · 01-05-2009, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

How does 50% of $34.99 = $12.43

We earn a few dollars per join too! Not enough per join for the all beef hotdogs, but if I can catch some chili on sale, it makes the turkey hotdogs taste fine...

Brujah, Read paragraph 2 and 3 of our TOS - it explains things!

Imortyl Pussycat · 01-05-2009, 11:37 PM

WOW, and meow PK! Congrats to you and Bama, this is an amazing program

lazycash · 01-05-2009, 11:48 PM

Looks great, has your beta testing shown any measurable difference in recurring periods over the average standard model?

Brujah · 01-05-2009, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama

We earn a few dollars per join too! Not enough per join for the all beef hotdogs, but if I can catch some chili on sale, it makes the turkey hotdogs taste fine...

Brujah, Read paragraph 2 and 3 of our TOS - it explains things!

I'm not trying to come across as an unreasonable affiliate or anything, but I want to make sure that I actually make more money and not less. So, I want to make $21 or so with Andi Pink w/Panco Dog instead of only $12.43 with Andi Pink w/Adult Cartel.. unless there's sufficient promotion going on with Adult Cartel and my members that encourage them to try some of the other programs too that I wouldn't already be doing. Thanks for the answers so far and I'll continue to check it out.

Machete_ · 01-05-2009, 11:54 PM

What a great idea. Both honest and profitable at the same time.
I bet rebills will be multiple times better

bdld · 01-05-2009, 11:54 PM

sounds like webmasters earn less per join but might earn more if the retention rates are higher. personally i dont like consolidating links to 1 program, would rather spread things out to minimize risk.

Bama · 01-06-2009, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

I'm not trying to come across as an unreasonable affiliate or anything, but I want to make sure that I actually make more money and not less

No sir, I don't think you're being unreasonable at all. This type of program doesn't exist in the adult community and doesn't work the way all the others do so questions will certainly need to be answered.

I just made a pot of coffee and will be here most of the night to get to all the ones that I can. I wouldn't expect anyone to put all their eggs into our basket because we don't have all of the payout choices the other programs offer. I designed the program to be that way.

It's all about choices for the webmasters. We won't fit into everyone's business model but for those that we do, they should do very, very well

Brujah · 01-06-2009, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

What a great idea. Both honest and profitable at the same time.
I bet rebills will be multiple times better

Why will rebills be higher? Same membership area, same price. What encourages the member to cancel and hop over to another site?

AmeliaG · 01-06-2009, 12:14 AM

What a cool idea. Will sign up as an affiliate and I'm probably interested in trying one of my sites out in your system too. Congrats on innovating

Roald · 01-06-2009, 12:20 AM

I am getting a lot of these: http://nats.adultcartel.com/undefined at various parts of the site.

Concepts is smashing though, checking into it.

Machete_ · 01-06-2009, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

Why will rebills be higher? Same membership area, same price. What encourages the member to cancel and hop over to another site?

Because I believe when he is faced with the two options of either canceling the subscription or check out a site he have (hopefully) see some previews to over the last month, I think there is a bigger chance of him rebilling

It's like if you had a magazine subscription, but had the subscription to the magazine-STORE rather than one specific Magazine.

Bama · 01-06-2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

Why will rebills be higher? Same membership area, same price. What encourages the member to cancel and hop over to another site?

You're totally missing the point - they don't have to cancel to jump from paysite to paysite.

EDepth · 01-06-2009, 12:26 AM

Is there a minimum length of membership per site, ie. 30 days before switching?

Bama · 01-06-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EDepth

Is there a minimum length of membership per site, ie. 30 days before switching?

Yeppers, a regular monthly billing cycle.

Brujah · 01-06-2009, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama

You're totally missing the point - they don't have to cancel to jump from paysite to paysite.

Why will they stick with Adult Cartel, and hop from one site to another? How are you promoting or handling the other sites to members of Andi Pink for example? You assumed the member will stick with Andi Pink for 2 months earlier. What happens when they decide to stop recurring? How are they hopping around to other sites? Is it an offer they're given prior to cancelling? during their membership? upon cancellation? Can you give more detail about this? If you already have, don't worry then. I'll go back through and read the thread in more detail later maybe.

Bama · 01-06-2009, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

I am getting a lot of these: http://nats.adultcartel.com/undefined at various parts of the site.

Concepts is smashing though, checking into it.

That's the flash header that does that and I'm not too sure why when the links aren't broken. Back button/click again usually works. I'll look into why again.

fuhkinglou · 01-06-2009, 12:41 AM

Very interesting concept. Look forward to hearing how it works out for people.

Bama · 01-06-2009, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

If you already have, don't worry then. I'll go back through and read the thread in more detail later maybe.

Hit me up on ICQ and I'll give you a user/pass

Go and see for yourself how it works - play with the system - create your own Cartel!

Doctor Dre · 01-06-2009, 12:57 AM

Holy shit... amazing

The first breakthrough post I've seen on GFY for ever. This is awesome, must have been a LOAD of work to get it ready.

This is very very very good for non impulsive buyers retention.

Bama · 01-06-2009, 01:17 AM

Brujah,

Creating Your Adult Cartel

Creating your Cartel is easy! When you find a member's section that you like, click on the "Add This Content To My Cartel" button on the details page of every review (just below the numerical overall score) and access to that premium content will be added to the the bottom of your cartel list of member's section accesses.

Simply move accesses up, down or remove them from your list. At the end of the month, the member's section at the top of the list will be the premium content you have at the start of the next billing cycle. Keep in mind that the access you currently have will always be at the top of the list unless you remove it (or move it down) and you'll continue to have access to that member's section.

So I can set my Cartel up and have access to (for example)

Bros Fucking Hoes (this month)
Teen Dreams (the following month)
Web Young (the month after that)
40 Plus 50 Plus (the month after that)
HDTV Hotties (the month after that)
Real MILF Sex (the month after that)
Monster Loads (the month after that)
Red City Nudes (the month after that)

8 paysites from 8 different programs. Prior to AdultCartel, if a user wanted to be a member of those 8 sites he'd have to join them manually (and separately).

With us, he's a member of the AdultCartel - so as long as he remains a member - each month he gets to roll into a new members area since all of those sites are in AdultCartel.

In order to get that 1 member to those 8 different paysites, it would be damned difficult (as a webmaster) for you to send the same member to each of those sites to become a member. He'll join from a banner on your site this month - join from someone else's banner on their site and so on and so forth....

So... if industry average is about 2 months per join - you'd have 1 rebill month. (Join month+second month maybe..)

The other webmasters would have the same.

With AdultCartel, he can roll them seamlessly so you alone are the referring webmaster and you alone earn the 7 rebills instead of another webmaster and that is assuming that they'd only want access for 1 month prior to rolling. If the industry average is 2 months, that would be 15 rebills for those same 8 sites that you alone would earn..

That's just generalized math used for the explanation btw...

Make sense now or am I to close to things to explain it adequately?

Brujah · 01-06-2009, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama

Brujah,

Creating Your Adult Cartel

Creating your Cartel is easy! When you find a member's section that you like, click on the "Add This Content To My Cartel" button on the details page of every review (just below the numerical overall score) and access to that premium content will be added to the the bottom of your cartel list of member's section accesses.

Simply move accesses up, down or remove them from your list. At the end of the month, the member's section at the top of the list will be the premium content you have at the start of the next billing cycle. Keep in mind that the access you currently have will always be at the top of the list unless you remove it (or move it down) and you'll continue to have access to that member's section.

So I can set my Cartel up and have access to (for example)

Bros Fucking Hoes (this month)
Teen Dreams (the following month)
Web Young (the month after that)
40 Plus 50 Plus (the month after that)
HDTV Hotties (the month after that)
Real MILF Sex (the month after that)
Monster Loads (the month after that)
Red City Nudes (the month after that)

8 paysites from 8 different programs. Prior to AdultCartel, if a user wanted to be a member of those 8 sites he'd have to join them manually (and separately).

With us, he's a member of the AdultCartel - so as long as he remains a member - each month he gets to roll into a new members area since all of those sites are in AdultCartel.

In order to get that 1 member to those 8 different paysites, it would be damned difficult (as a webmaster) for you to send the same member to each of those sites to become a member. He'll join from a banner on your site this month - join from someone else's banner on their site and so on and so forth....

So... if industry average is about 2 months per join - you'd have 1 rebill month. (Join month+second month maybe..)

The other webmasters would have the same.

With AdultCartel, he can roll them seamlessly so you alone are the referring webmaster and you alone earn the 7 rebills instead of another webmaster and that is assuming that they'd only want access for 1 month prior to rolling. If the industry average is 2 months, that would be 15 rebills for those same 8 sites that you alone would earn..

That's just generalized math used for the explanation btw...

Make sense now or am I to close to things to explain it adequately?

Makes a lot more sense now. I'll let it simmer a bit and take you up on a user/pass to check it out later. This will help tremendously in explaining the advantages to members.

Bama · 01-06-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Holy shit... amazing

The first breakthrough post I've seen on GFY for ever. This is awesome, must have been a LOAD of work to get it ready. This is very very very good for non impulsive buyers retention.

Thanks much and you're right, it's been a ton of work and I still have lots to do but I'm up for it!

Zuzana Designs · 01-06-2009, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama

Yes ma'am - they sure can!

We don't yet but they do plan to offer both! We're importing as quick as my little fingers can type

Very very nice... One could run an entire site just promoting this, and never need anything else.. Very great concept by two of industries leaders.. I will be pushing you guys for sure !!

V_RocKs · 01-06-2009, 02:44 AM

Got my attention...

Then again... so did MofosCash...

PersianKitty · 01-06-2009, 03:12 AM

Gentle Bump for the night owls.

01-05-2009, 09:19 PM	#51
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	fiddy cartels biatches __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

01-05-2009, 09:19 PM	#52
mikeyddddd Viva la vulva! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself Posts: 16,557	__________________ AdultStarProfits AmbyaCash AnilosCash AzianiGold ColdHardCash FlashTheMoney IdolBucks MediumPimpin NSCash Nubiles PussyCash ScoreCash Sextronix SpunkyCash TubeTitans Twistys

01-05-2009, 09:24 PM	#54
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Interesting. Doesn't XPAYS have a patent on this model? Or is this different? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-05-2009, 09:32 PM	#55
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	it's a good idea - there was a recent thread by EscortBiz suggesting a similar concept where CCBILL paysite customers could join another CCBILL processed paysite without going through the join process again. Not exactly the same idea but close. It would appear that this is doable for CCBILL and they should be working on it. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-05-2009, 09:36 PM	#56
Zuzana Designs All Your Design Needs Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: [email protected] Posts: 20,793	Very Interesting.. So if a member is at lets say Twistys.. And they want to check out Rhino Pays.. and decide they would like to go back to twistys.. Can they do that as well ?? I'm just tring to make sure I understand it 100% .. And also do you have clips we can use on our legal tube site ?? Also do you offer free hosting on my domain ? __________________ Website Design - Consulting - Development sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com - See Our Work Need a SFW landing page or tour for age verification? Last edited by Zuzana Designs; 01-05-2009 at 09:38 PM..

01-05-2009, 09:36 PM	#57
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Looks interesting, will have to see how it works out. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

01-05-2009, 09:46 PM	#60
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	This sounds good.... can we get someone OTHER than Bama who's signed up and can explain how it works from their perspective? I'm very interested in promoting this, and when I jump in its for a long long time... soI don't want to waste my time on a program that will be gone, or the business model just isn't worth it. Anyone? (No offence Bama, but 2nd unbiased opinion is what i'm after here) __________________ i like waffles

01-05-2009, 09:48 PM	#61
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,331	ok...So, affiliates get 50% no matter what... __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

01-05-2009, 09:58 PM	#62
cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,108	Earn 10% When A Customer Rolls Their Membership Into Another Program hmm? __________________ Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

01-05-2009, 10:06 PM	#63
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Congratulations on the launch! This looks very innovative, I'm going to go check it out. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

01-05-2009, 10:12 PM	#65
MarkTiarra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 3,833	Bama and PK are as good as people get in this biz. I hope this kicks total ass for you guys! __________________ Retired Pornosticator

01-05-2009, 10:29 PM	#66
collegeboobies So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,644	Tip: Dont use fake tits in ads

01-05-2009, 10:30 PM	#67
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	can you send an email upon signup or later, with ALL of the link codes? Or a dump so that we don't have to grab them one by one? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-05-2009, 10:32 PM	#68
cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,108	Is there a webmaster referal? __________________ Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

01-05-2009, 10:34 PM	#70
Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	If anyone wants to see how the members section works so you can get a feel of how things are set up - hit me up on ICQ and I'll give you a user/pass to use.

01-05-2009, 10:55 PM	#71
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Adult Cartel says 50% recurring ($12.43 recurring) Andi Pink is $34.99 with AdultCartel and $34.95 through PanchoDog. I get 60% recurring (consoles) with Panchodog. Am I earning less by using AdultCartel? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-05-2009, 10:59 PM	#72
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,287	this is a great idea, suprised someone didnt come up with it sooner, hope it works out for you. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

01-05-2009, 11:28 PM	#74
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	How does 50% of $34.99 = $12.43 __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-05-2009, 11:30 PM	#75
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	I've been promoting revshare for a long long time, so this is actually pretty huge for us who believe in the revshare and recurring model. __________________ i like waffles

01-05-2009, 11:37 PM	#77
Imortyl Pussycat Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 5,449	WOW, and meow PK! Congrats to you and Bama, this is an amazing program __________________ Julie Larson julie {at} juicyads.com skype: imortylpussycat Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet available ad spots \| sign up now

01-05-2009, 11:48 PM	#78
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Looks great, has your beta testing shown any measurable difference in recurring periods over the average standard model?

01-05-2009, 11:54 PM	#80
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	What a great idea. Both honest and profitable at the same time. I bet rebills will be multiple times better

01-05-2009, 11:54 PM	#81
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	sounds like webmasters earn less per join but might earn more if the retention rates are higher. personally i dont like consolidating links to 1 program, would rather spread things out to minimize risk.

01-06-2009, 12:14 AM	#84
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,531	What a cool idea. Will sign up as an affiliate and I'm probably interested in trying one of my sites out in your system too. Congrats on innovating __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

01-06-2009, 12:20 AM	#85
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,877	I am getting a lot of these: http://nats.adultcartel.com/undefined at various parts of the site. Concepts is smashing though, checking into it. __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| skype:roaldr \| icq:

01-06-2009, 12:26 AM	#88
EDepth Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 510	Is there a minimum length of membership per site, ie. 30 days before switching? __________________ ICQ: 275335837

01-06-2009, 12:41 AM	#92
fuhkinglou Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 951	Very interesting concept. Look forward to hearing how it works out for people. __________________ -------- Whose Your Porn Pal? Want to trade hardlinks? ICQ - 264-934-933

01-06-2009, 01:17 AM	#95
Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	Brujah, Creating Your Adult Cartel Creating your Cartel is easy! When you find a member's section that you like, click on the "Add This Content To My Cartel" button on the details page of every review (just below the numerical overall score) and access to that premium content will be added to the the bottom of your cartel list of member's section accesses. Simply move accesses up, down or remove them from your list. At the end of the month, the member's section at the top of the list will be the premium content you have at the start of the next billing cycle. Keep in mind that the access you currently have will always be at the top of the list unless you remove it (or move it down) and you'll continue to have access to that member's section. So I can set my Cartel up and have access to (for example) Bros Fucking Hoes (this month) Teen Dreams (the following month) Web Young (the month after that) 40 Plus 50 Plus (the month after that) HDTV Hotties (the month after that) Real MILF Sex (the month after that) Monster Loads (the month after that) Red City Nudes (the month after that) 8 paysites from 8 different programs. Prior to AdultCartel, if a user wanted to be a member of those 8 sites he'd have to join them manually (and separately). With us, he's a member of the AdultCartel - so as long as he remains a member - each month he gets to roll into a new members area since all of those sites are in AdultCartel. In order to get that 1 member to those 8 different paysites, it would be damned difficult (as a webmaster) for you to send the same member to each of those sites to become a member. He'll join from a banner on your site this month - join from someone else's banner on their site and so on and so forth.... So... if industry average is about 2 months per join - you'd have 1 rebill month. (Join month+second month maybe..) The other webmasters would have the same. With AdultCartel, he can roll them seamlessly so you alone are the referring webmaster and you alone earn the 7 rebills instead of another webmaster and that is assuming that they'd only want access for 1 month prior to rolling. If the industry average is 2 months, that would be 15 rebills for those same 8 sites that you alone would earn.. That's just generalized math used for the explanation btw... Make sense now or am I to close to things to explain it adequately?

01-06-2009, 02:44 AM	#99
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,392	Got my attention... Then again... so did MofosCash...

01-06-2009, 03:12 AM	#100
PersianKitty Meow Media Inc. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In the valley of the sun, cactus, tacos, tequila, and nod Posts: 7,785	Gentle Bump for the night owls. __________________ Wondering what webmaster programs PK uses? Check them out here!