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Old 01-06-2009, 03:19 AM   #101
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I am VERY impressed. This should retain like a mofo.

Congrats Bama and PK!

Oh and mad props on making this all work from the back end POV.
Must have given you guys a fair amount of headaches.
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:20 AM   #102
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awesome stuff bama!

btw if i dream of cock all day and night, does that make me gay?
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:23 AM   #103
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Thanks all...

Bama will be the first to whine...er complain... er...explain ... that this idea has not been a breeze to accomplish. I don't know why I have the headache when he's spent the vast majority of the hours behind the keyboard.

But then.. isn't it always the woman that gets the headache?
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:23 AM   #104
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awesome stuff bama!

btw if i dream of cock all day and night, does that make me gay?
Hmm.. you ask Bama this because he knows about dreaming of cock all day and night, right?
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:25 AM   #105
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Hmm.. you ask Bama this because he knows about dreaming of cock all day and night, right?
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:36 AM   #106
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Sounds like a pretty awesome idea. Congratulations on the launch
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:54 AM   #107
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Very Interesting concept, Congrats to all parties involved. This should be a sure hit
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:28 AM   #108
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Very Nice!! Congratulations Bama and PK on your release.
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:45 AM   #109
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Is there a webmaster referal? I cant find links anywhere
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:01 AM   #110
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:16 AM   #111
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We are ver happy to be a part of this! This is going to be crazy
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:20 AM   #112
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:06 AM   #113
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Awesome concept!

Couple questions..

-Do all sites have full membership option only? (so that we don't end up getting 50% of a $1 trial that doesn't convert to full membership)

-Any plans to offer an epassporte payment option in the future?

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Old 01-06-2009, 07:06 AM   #114
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A very creative idea and well executed!

Grats to you both.
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:30 AM   #115
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:30 AM   #116
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Woa, congratulations.

Don't recall seeing anything really new here for a long long time!
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:54 AM   #117
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My little suggestion: make it very, very, VERY (!) clear that the list of sites is worked through in a monthly sequence, rather than concurrently. If potential members see lists of multiple sites they may think it's some sort of horrible cross sale setup.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:05 AM   #118
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awesome stuff bama!

btw if i dream of cock all day and night, does that make me gay?
Thanks K-man and nope, that only shows that even in your subconscious, you're concerned for your fellow man!
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:10 AM   #119
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very interesting concept. Good luck with it PK
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:19 AM   #120
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Is there a webmaster referal?
Hey Herandrea,

No, there isn't a webmaster referral portion to the program. This decision was one of the harder ones that I had to make when designing out the software. There was a set amount of $'s to work with from the billing price.

Of that, we take a few bucks off the top and then split the rest 50/50 between the program owner and the webmaster.

The webmaster always earns their 50% no matter what site the member rolls their membership section into but the program owners do not. The owner of the members section we're currently using that month earns the other 50% and that can change from month to month who that will be.

I decided to pay the program owner a 10% per month bonus once the member rolls out of their membership section because it was their site that brought the member into the Cartel but we pay that from our pocket and not yours. That of course makes our margin smaller but in the long run it's for the better.

I will be adding some additional revenue models to the system to help increase webmaster revenue opportunities such as when our rates decline with the processors, pass along the savings to you guys.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:22 AM   #121
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I love this idea............just signed up!!
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:23 AM   #122
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:29 AM   #123
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awesome bama
Thanks Tom and I want to get your sites into the Cartel. You've got some great sites that convert well and it'll help my chances to get some TrishaUptown kisses at the Florida show!

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Old 01-06-2009, 08:37 AM   #124
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No, we run our own processing and then pay the program owners and webmasters ourselves.
suppose I am a site owner

if you are paying everyone yourself, what would I be getting as a program or paysite owner? it can't be a huge chunk....well, either you all are getting a REALLY small cut of the sign up or the paysite owner is, my guess is it is the paysite owner
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:41 AM   #125
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suppose I am a site owner

if you are paying everyone yourself, what would I be getting as a program or paysite owner? it can't be a huge chunk....well, either you all are getting a REALLY small cut of the sign up or the paysite owner is, my guess is it is the paysite owner
Nope, you'd be wrong. We take the smallest cut. This is a rev-share program and that means rev share for us too. I didn't want the program to be set up to where we siphon off the profits and leave you (or the webmasters) hanging.

When I post a picture of my new car - I want that to follow your posting of your 2 new cars..
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:43 AM   #126
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Congrats on the Launch! I know how hard you worked on this Looking forward to being a part of it
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Nope, you'd be wrong. We take the smallest cut. This is a rev-share program and that means rev share for us too. I didn't want the program to be set up to where we siphon off the profits and leave you (or the webmasters) hanging.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:49 AM   #128
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Thanks very much Shap. I'm THRILLED to have your sites in the program!
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:59 AM   #129
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nice program! congrats and best of luck to all.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:05 AM   #130
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Awesome concept!

Couple questions..

-Do all sites have full membership option only? (so that we don't end up getting 50% of a $1 trial that doesn't convert to full membership)

-Any plans to offer an epassporte payment option in the future?

Thanks
No, we're not offering trials to the surfer. They pay full price and you make full commission. Epassporte is a payment option but it's a hidden one that we'll activate on a per webmaster basis.

Every time I read a thread about a scamming webmaster, Epass is almost always associated with them as the payment option they chose so when they see that it's not a default payout option, perhaps that will help dissuade them to some degree. Established webmasters - no problemo'!
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:15 AM   #131
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Congrats, it looks good.

Too bad you don't have any webmaster referral program
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:42 AM   #132
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Congrats Bama and PK, I know how hard you guys worked on it. See u guys in Vegas!
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What a great idea! Awesome!

Congratulations guy for what you got!
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:49 AM   #134
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Very nice concept. Congrats PK and Bama
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Congratulation on the launch Bama & PK,

I guess I'll have to take this off my predictions for 2009. Looks like you guys have successfully executed a new business plan the creates a Win-Win-Win-Win situation for Program Owners, Webmasters, Yourself and most importantly the MEMBER!

What a breath of fresh air for a change!
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:48 AM   #136
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Congrats to both. With so much solid expereince between Beth and Bama, no doubt this program is solid and will hit the ground running.
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Really good stuff from you!

I will be keeping an eye out for this!!!
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:13 AM   #138
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I am so late posting here but am really happy to be a part of this exciting new business model and money maker

Congrats on the launch Bama and PK... hope to see you guys in Vegas! xo
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Bama and PK - Huge congrats! Innovation has certainly been lacking as of late so this is a perfectly complimentary renovation of the paysite model.

If you are still interested in us being involved then please hit treasure AT homegrownvideo DOT com up so she can help get what you need for us to take part. Many thanks!
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:06 PM   #142
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See all the sweating in Florida was worth it... I know how long and hard you've worked. Wow it's been a long time. I'll get with you in the next day or two. I hope we can contribute heavily to cartalwhorism.

Congrats!
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Nice to see some innovation... good luck with the new program. Looks like you're off to a good start.
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When I read your initial post this made my spin tingle and my face grin.

It's very inspiring seeing such a revolutionary concept being introduced to the industry. As a programmer it's not the affiliate program itself that excites me, but instead the reassurance that this industry does want to evolve by introducing new concepts and not just watch itself fall apart.

I love what you have done and feel this is a huge step in the right direction.

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Old 01-06-2009, 06:31 PM   #145
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Congrats on the launch what a great concept !!
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Here are some screen's of the members area. Design was by $tanDaMan's AdultDesign team.

See how spot runs!

This is the main members area page for a Papaloads join. By joining Papaloads, the member also gets access to their other sites and they are listed below.




This is our movies page. They get large, small, flash and accompanying image sets.



This is our newest reviews (additions to the Cartel) page. From here, the member can click on any site to get the details of that paysite and some sample images



Here is the detailed paysite page. Notice the "Add This Site To My Cartel Button". This is how the members choose which sites to roll into the following months.


Here is the members Cartel page where the list of upcoming site accesses is listed. They can move sites up or down or delete them if they change their mind.

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BUMP for a Awesome idea!
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Wow great concept ... the technology behind that must have been fun to write!!!
Congrats to everyone involved!
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I couldn't see this in the thread when I skimmed it so sorry if I'm asking something that's already been answered, but how does this work technically from the pay site owners side? ie how does the authentication work to allow members to switch sites. Would we have to add an additional custom script to our signup process or do you work in with our setup or do we have to be setup a particular way? I have a few different paysites working on different systems. A few use a simple htaccess file and some post and store details in a database. Is there somewhere we can see a simple tech explanation of how its setup?
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No, we're not offering trials to the surfer. They pay full price and you make full commission. Epassporte is a payment option but it's a hidden one that we'll activate on a per webmaster basis.

Every time I read a thread about a scamming webmaster, Epass is almost always associated with them as the payment option they chose so when they see that it's not a default payout option, perhaps that will help dissuade them to some degree. Established webmasters - no problemo'!
Interesting, so this would be the first way to promote ccbill sites and get paid by epassporte, is this correct?

One more question: In addition to banners and FHG's, is there also free content (pics and vids) for all the sites in the cartel, and if so do you also give members area access for webmasters to grab fresh content?
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