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Old 01-18-2009, 01:12 PM   #51
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:13 PM   #52
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look.. you guys have had years to go after the source of this problem and no one has done a thing. one more person isnt going to make or break what damage has already been done..

quit wasting your time..
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:14 PM   #53
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perfectly legal...

Just like when I direct a person to a fence selling a hot TV ... super legal
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:19 PM   #54
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perfectly legal...

Just like when I direct a person to a fence selling a hot TV ... super legal
More like if you direct a person to a swap meet. They might find stolen stuff there, it might be legit.

It would be more cut and dry if tubes sites were simply "Illegal" like people want them to be. Unfortunately the way DMCA is written many of them are immoral and wrong but probably not illegal.

Please don't start with the "everyone knows" or "it's common knowledge" about owners doing the uploading. If it were so cut and dry these "illegal" sites would be getting prosecuted. They're not yet.

Further, how is this idiot's indexing any different than what Google does? Is Google breaking the law too?
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:21 PM   #55
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oh XSS and SQL injection? its covered. but there is a backup stored offline so by all means go ahead. now i know where to point fingers at.

who says i indexed all the tube sites directly ?
Ok, now that was fucking stupid!!!

I'm not talking about injecting anything into any site; just a simple redirect based
on referreing URLs that embed the video.

It's clear to me now that you don't really know what you are doing.

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Old 01-18-2009, 01:23 PM   #56
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i dont see how you can delete the db without those two methods.
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:25 PM   #57
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Further, how is this idiot's indexing any different than what Google does? Is Google breaking the law too?

Let us all know when google is selling it's index for $400.
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i dont think you know what your doing sortie. so it'd be best to gfy and stfu
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i dont think you know what your doing sortie. so it'd be best to gfy and stfu
No hard feelings, I was just pointing that out.
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:03 PM   #60
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Just looking at this thread you see why this industry is fucked up.
No shit, man. Why is this fucking idiot even here? Obviously he's on the other fucking team.


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I am just sitting here wondering what the fuck adult has become
Easy.....A way for shithead theives like him to grab up some cash they have no right to.


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You are a bottom feeding business person.
He's not a business person anymore if he ever was, he's a full blown theif who's just afraid to commit 100% at the moment. I'm sure when he starts banking off his stolen content gig he'll be alot more forthcoming about the fact that he's a theiving fuck.


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thats it? you do not give me enough credit. i also sell crack to your family and kids, i blow up horses for fun, and a hired hitman.
thats funny. Alot better then saying "I'm a scammy fuck ball who is only here to steal your guys shit, spread it around and keep your money. By the way everyone, thanks for all that help that you were all nice enough to give me when I poped up and started asking questions about things. I'm just not willing to put in the time it would take to make an honest living doing this, so i'm gonna take what I've learned and fuck you all with it."



Fuck you. Asshole.
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:09 PM   #61
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look.. you guys have had years to go after the source of this problem and no one has done a thing. one more person isnt going to make or break what damage has already been done..

quit wasting your time..
That just about sums it up.

Not to mention, these scripts that scrape tube sites have been on sale for over a year. A few were even on sale here on GFY in the Buy and Sell section.
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:31 PM   #62
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Umm not to defend Dori, but to play devils advocate how is this any different than a search engine? All he is doing is spidering (like a search engine) then providing targeted results. Yes I am sure a lot of the content from the lists he provides is not legal, but anyone saying it is illegal is a bit insane. If the sites he is indexing allow embedding, then how is this any different than say a site like http://www.viralvideochart.com/ that embeds the hottest videos right now. Viral video chart doesn't check to see whether the content is legal or not. That is up to whatever site it originates from.

This whole thread is retarded and misguided.


More people running around trying to herd cats again.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:56 PM   #63
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One could argue that he's actually fighting tubes by selling a 'tool' to use their bandwith and cost them money
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:54 PM   #65
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Umm not to defend Dori, but to play devils advocate how is this any different than a search engine? All he is doing is spidering (like a search engine) then providing targeted results. Yes I am sure a lot of the content from the lists he provides is not legal, but anyone saying it is illegal is a bit insane. If the sites he is indexing allow embedding, then how is this any different than say a site like http://www.viralvideochart.com/ that embeds the hottest videos right now. Viral video chart doesn't check to see whether the content is legal or not. That is up to whatever site it originates from.

This whole thread is retarded and misguided.


More people running around trying to herd cats again.
guess your smart afterall.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:06 PM   #66
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One could argue that he's actually fighting tubes by selling a 'tool' to use their bandwith and cost them money
type jordan capri and bam. get ready to submit dmca to those sites.
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Umm not to defend Dori, but to play devils advocate how is this any different than a search engine? All he is doing is spidering (like a search engine) then providing targeted results. Yes I am sure a lot of the content from the lists he provides is not legal, but anyone saying it is illegal is a bit insane. If the sites he is indexing allow embedding, then how is this any different than say a site like http://www.viralvideochart.com/ that embeds the hottest videos right now. Viral video chart doesn't check to see whether the content is legal or not. That is up to whatever site it originates from.

This whole thread is retarded and misguided.


More people running around trying to herd cats again.
I always enjoyed reading your posts Sticky and will continue to do so. You are one of the few in this business i would work with knowing i would be working with somebody who has the knowledge and the skills BUT i have to comment you on this post.

I think we can all asume that most of the content is illegal, stolen, etc..... Adult content people worked for and probably paid money for. How this is any different? Well, putting up a tube site is one thing, selling links (read embed codes) to illegal adult content on an adult webmaster board is another thing. It's a direct slap in the face to people who actually WORK for $$. I myself plaid with the idea of putting up a tube site but didn't. Why? Ethics! It's all we have to go on in this business. I'm not one of those who thinks "if everybody is doing it, it's ok", one less douchbag is one less... One less theif.
Sites like Viral Video Chart indeed probably has links to videos that are illegal or stolen but atleast they are not slapping it in the face like this fucked up unethical moron does. I for one will always, ALWAYS, attack those that come into this business for a quick buck hurting others by having no ethics whatsoever. No, it doesn't hurt any of us directly BUT thousands of him do. The question remains, do we just let it all slip or do whatever we can to whipe them out, one by one. I go for the last option.
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so im unethical now?
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:38 PM   #69
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im not selling videos. im not selling content. im selling databases containing texts that by itself renders nothing.the databases must be read, and interpreted by a computer language for humans to enjoy.
how is that different then giving away usernames and passwords?

It's all the same .. it's stolen content and stolen links/codes of stolen content .. the re occurring word here is STOLEN .. get it?

Guys like me that employ hundreds in the creation of content are really feeling the pinch because of sneeks like you.

It s just wrong. Do the work .. create the content or buy it ... Tube Porn is the same as Stealing Porn ..it's wrong and immoral
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So if I were to sell a database of all of the URLs to images inside the Playboy Cyber Club (assuming they could be accessed directly in that manner), that would be ok?
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u just admited you were too stupid to comprehend.
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So if I were to sell a database of all of the URLs to images inside the Playboy Cyber Club (assuming they could be accessed directly in that manner), that would be ok?
if the URLs and images were made intentionally by PlayBoy (who buys this shit anyhow) so that users may copy paste it into their blogs, forums, and other places, then yes.

again, im not forcing any of the tube sites to give up their content, its readily scraping the embed links that ultimately results in more traffic for them.
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doridori, one quick question...can you get more than 5 results on the page?
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doridori, one quick question...can you get more than 5 results on the page?
t the reason i left it at 5 is because browser would crash with something around 10~15 embed videos on the same page.

but i will add those option too. so that those willing may fight tube sites by wasting their bandwith by clicking simulatneously play button on all 15 embed videos.
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doridor, man that is actually pretty sleazy to be doing those things man, legal or not, you do know it's wrong
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does youjav.com have any videos you're actually allowed to use?
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I always enjoyed reading your posts Sticky and will continue to do so. You are one of the few in this business i would work with knowing i would be working with somebody who has the knowledge and the skills BUT i have to comment you on this post.

I think we can all asume that most of the content is illegal, stolen, etc..... Adult content people worked for and probably paid money for. How this is any different? Well, putting up a tube site is one thing, selling links (read embed codes) to illegal adult content on an adult webmaster board is another thing. It's a direct slap in the face to people who actually WORK for $$. I myself plaid with the idea of putting up a tube site but didn't. Why? Ethics! It's all we have to go on in this business. I'm not one of those who thinks "if everybody is doing it, it's ok", one less douchbag is one less... One less theif.
Sites like Viral Video Chart indeed probably has links to videos that are illegal or stolen but atleast they are not slapping it in the face like this fucked up unethical moron does. I for one will always, ALWAYS, attack those that come into this business for a quick buck hurting others by having no ethics whatsoever. No, it doesn't hurt any of us directly BUT thousands of him do. The question remains, do we just let it all slip or do whatever we can to whipe them out, one by one. I go for the last option.
ok why not use his database to fix the problem
he is basically selling you a list of content from all the major tube sites in one single database
why not pool your money buy a single licience and use it a master DMCA list

Then not only would you be removing your content legally from the offending tube sites
but you would basically corupting his database at the same time (since the working links would stop working when the content disappers)

I don't understand the cry baby mentality here.
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no worries. spiders will crawl weekly, so database is constantly updated. new videos are added daily.
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If I was wanting to quickly find vids of mine that might be on tubesites I think this would be a handy thing to simplify it. This hurts tubesites so I just don't see it all that bad. Im amazed DoriDori made this. He is taking advantage of the circumstances of tube sites traffic. Im 100% against content theft, but seems like a way to use up their bw, while profiting from them. Im no buddy of doridori obviously, but gfy annoys me that depending on how the first few posters respond, so goes the thread normally lol
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doridori, one quick question...can you get more than 5 results on the page?
Congrats, he seems to have found a buyer.

I think gfy should take a stance on this issue.
Next thing you will see is people selling torrent databases here.
Ban him.
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If I was wanting to quickly find vids of mine that might be on tubesites I think this would be a handy thing to simplify it. This hurts tubesites so I just don't see it all that bad. Im amazed DoriDori made this. He is taking advantage of the circumstances of tube sites traffic. Im 100% against content theft, but seems like a way to use up their bw, while profiting from them. Im no buddy of doridori obviously, but gfy annoys me that depending on how the first few posters respond, so goes the thread normally lol
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for $30 month, the database will be updated daily. you will not need to run any scripts or worry about things breaking. so in a month around 10,000~20,000 videos are added across tube sites.

however, the huge database containing 230,000 rows of videos is $400. i just factored in the large amount of time and effort put to compiling this. I also offer free implementaiton to your site, and any conversion necessary to make it work with ANY script including TEVS, Nubiles, Bits, Clipshare and all the other video scripts selling on here, as long as its written in PHP and Perl, and uses MySQL database.
What a piece of shit.. Why doesn't GFY ban this guy just on principle?
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i dont see how you can delete the db without those two methods.
you are a fucking moron. he's not referring to wiping out the database in whole. he's talking about the sites hosting the videos banning the URL's using your shitty database.
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you are a fucking moron. he's not referring to wiping out the database in whole. he's talking about the sites hosting the videos banning the URL's using your shitty database.
again im not the first to do this.
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hey my friend start promoting sponsors as we are doing and everyone will be happy ...
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it crawls any site, as long as you have embbedable videos.
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