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Old 01-20-2009, 10:40 AM   #1
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At least Obama recognized us NON BELIEVERS

best line he said was to include atheists in his speech.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:42 AM   #2
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best line he said was to include atheists in his speech.
Yes, that was great to hear actually.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:43 AM   #3
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Indeed, I picked up on it. He knows how to please the masses.
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I thought I was the only one impressed by that. I was just thinking "what about us" when he mentioned non-believers at the end of his list of silly religions.
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Indeed, I picked up on it. He knows how to please the masses.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:48 AM   #6
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Did he mention anything about Agnostics?
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Did he mention anything about Agnostics?
what was he supposed to say "all those who might sort of kind of believe possibly then maybe might not"?
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what was he supposed to say "all those who might sort of kind of believe possibly then maybe might not"?
LOL!

It was good to hear us non-believers included.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:58 AM   #9
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I thought I was the only one impressed by that. I was just thinking "what about us" when he mentioned non-believers at the end of his list of silly religions.
Same here.
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He left out us Satan Worshipers

Hmmph!
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I was pretty happy that we were mentioned.
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He left out us Satan Worshipers

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because they are stupid.
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I thought I was the only one impressed by that. I was just thinking "what about us" when he mentioned non-believers at the end of his list of silly religions.
I was completely impressed by this, so many other presidents have forgotten religions other than there own, including the non religious. It was almost refreshing to hear.
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Did he mention anything about Agnostics?
I'm not sure.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:35 AM   #17
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haha yeh he said "non believers" that was awesome
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because they are stupid.
That was ignorant to say.
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That was ignorant to say.
That's because gatorb is mentally challenged (a special boy)
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That was ignorant to say.
No it's not. If you believe in Satan you must believe in God and not to spoil anything for those who haven't read the book, but God wins in the end. So to take the side of the loser knowing he's going to lose, is in fact stupid.
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:25 PM   #23
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One of things good on Obama he gives credit to those who doesnt think like him.For example he said how Mccain is good(during camping),then first there was priest who was anti gay and later priest who was pro gay.
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No it's not. If you believe in Satan you must believe in God and not to spoil anything for those who haven't read the book, but God wins in the end. So to take the side of the loser knowing he's going to lose, is in fact stupid.
IM not one to take up for satanists, however, Satanism as it is practiced by many is far from "devil worship" or the worshipping of Lucifer. Satanism is more along the lines of Selfism,...

satanism is not the worship of satan. Laveyan satanism is quite the opposite... satanism teaches individualism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism
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I guess it was not just a random idea for the sake of talking. It was indeed a very important sentence of the speech
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No it's not. If you believe in Satan you must believe in God and not to spoil anything for those who haven't read the book, but God wins in the end. So to take the side of the loser knowing he's going to lose, is in fact stupid.
Sorry to break it to you but life isn't like a Disney movie.
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yeah that was cool.
i've never heard anything like that before.
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well i personally think it was good, he did a "FIRST" even in his speech.

No other President in Americas history has done what he did.

He can be christian, that is fine with me, but do not label atheists as anything but a true and devout way of thinking. I voted for him and I am as atheist/antitheist as you can be. I am glad he said it.

I applaud him.
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IM not one to take up for satanists, however, Satanism as it is practiced by many is far from "devil worship" or the worshipping of Lucifer. Satanism is more along the lines of Selfism,...

satanism is not the worship of satan. Laveyan satanism is quite the opposite... satanism teaches individualism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism
Yeah but the post he's talking about didn't refer to Satanism, but to worshipping Satan. And I'm pretty sure the person who made that comment in the first place was just taking the piss.
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"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus ? and non-believers"

I took that to mean Mormans and Buddhists are non-believers.
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Very good, I have never understood why still so many Americans are religious.

I can't believe how a developed country like American has not more common sense about religion fairytales.
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I was happy to hear that included in Obama's speech.

My wife (whom is Buddhist), did ask why he left out Buddhists...

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Actually, I applaud his entire speech - but yeah, especially him acknowledging the atheists among us. He did a tremendous job to give shout-outs to a very wide range of the public.

He also mentioned about the people who do their work in "obscurity" to keep the country functioning. Too often it seems as if only the 'celebrities' or people in high profile/political positions are given all the credit.

It was a great speech - I'm sure will go down in history as among the greatest inaugural speeches ever made.

Although I still support Harper here in Canada...damn, I wish we had a charismatic leader like Obama north of the border.
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Very good, I have never understood why still so many Americans are religious.

I can't believe how a developed country like American has not more common sense about religion fairytales.
It will get worse as things get worse economically. People will cling stronger to their religious bullshit the worse it gets... At least that is what has always happened historically
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I gotta hand it to him.. that was the one line of the speech that nearly brought tears to my eyes... lol... nah but seriously .. it was gr8!
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I don't know, I am a little conflicted on this one. I think I would have rather heard him use the term atheists or those who believe in something else.

To me, saying "non-believers" smacks of condescension, especially with its placement in the sentence. As if to say, "Oh... and you guys too. The ones that are ignorant of the truth."

I guess it is the thought that counts. And if anyone cares, no I am not atheist but I do detest organized religion.
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