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Old 01-22-2009, 12:22 AM   #1
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Our company operates a variety of adult content websites under the trade name Brazzers Entertainment. We are the owner of many copyrights with respect to adult content videos, streams and pictorials ("Brazzers Property") including but not limited to various adult video sites entitled ?Baby Got Boobs?, ?Pornstars like it Big?, ?Mommy Got Boobs?, ?Big Tits at Work?, etc. Our company has gained a valuable reputation and has become an industry leader. As such, our trademarks, copyrights and all related proprietary rights are of considerable value.



It has come to our attention that you have through your site www.XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com (the 'website') without our permission and authorization uploaded a number of videos on the website/forum through third party file sharing sites. Said videos are absolute Brazzers Property. In fact, these videos have the Brazzers watermark logo in the lower right hand part of the screen. As such, the unauthorized use of the copyrighted work is being posted on the web site illegally. As a result, the parties involved may have willfully infringed our rights under 17 U.S.C. Section 101 et seq. and could be liable for statutory damages as high as $150,000.00 as set forth in Section 504(c)(2) therein. We refer to the following video:



http://www.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com/MOVIE...aisexvideo.php





We hereby demand that (i) the site remove all Brazzers related materials, videos and pictures noted herein (ii) disable all links related to Brazzers and (iii) that the site makes an active effort to censor all Brazzers material in the future.



As legal counsel and attorney for Brazzers Entertainment, I hereby confirm that the following infringements are not authorized. Further more, we have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of herein of is not authorized. Further more, the above information is accurate and as legal counsel I am authorized to act on behalf of the owners.



Please note that if our legal demands are not met within 24 hours of the following notice (11:30 AM EST, January 14, 2008) we shall contact all third parties including host providers, billers, etc.



This letter is sent to you without prejudice and in reserve of all other rights and recourses.



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Old 01-22-2009, 12:24 AM   #2
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:25 AM   #3
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I'd just take it down and then have an "uploader" put it back up.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:27 AM   #4
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They probably send out tons of those emails as a scare tactic and don't want phone calls and emails about it everyday.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:33 AM   #5
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:34 AM   #6
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I'd just take it down and then have an "uploader" put it back up.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:35 AM   #7
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In summary, remove their content from your site.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:39 AM   #8
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lol seriously? they are the ones to talk
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:40 AM   #9
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In summary, remove their content from your site.
I didn`t have their content on my site.

I linked to a video hosted on megarotic. The lady was hot and had big tits.

Then they send bitchy notice to ME and not in compliance with DMCA. So they can fuck off. When I asked them to clarify, they insisted that ``they have many lawyers in their intellectual property department`` and that ``their names and contact information are irrelevant``.

I heard that they own some tube site.

I won`t remove the link. Fuck them.

Actually, this was a year ago. The site is still up and doing quite well.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:45 AM   #10
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unless you get a DMCA tell them to shove it
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:48 AM   #11
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I didn`t have their content on my site.

I linked to a video hosted on megarotic. The lady was hot and had big tits.

Then they send bitchy notice to ME and not in compliance with DMCA. So they can fuck off. When I asked them to clarify, they insisted that ``they have many lawyers in their intellectual property department`` and that ``their names and contact information are irrelevant``.

I heard that they own some tube site.

I won`t remove the link. Fuck them.

Actually, this was a year ago. The site is still up and doing quite well.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:52 AM   #12
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I didn`t have their content on my site.

I linked to a video hosted on megarotic. The lady was hot and had big tits.

Then they send bitchy notice to ME and not in compliance with DMCA. So they can fuck off. When I asked them to clarify, they insisted that ``they have many lawyers in their intellectual property department`` and that ``their names and contact information are irrelevant``.

I heard that they own some tube site.

I won`t remove the link. Fuck them.

Actually, this was a year ago. The site is still up and doing quite well.
I wouldn't remove it, in fact, I'd link to more of their stuff. Turnabout is fair play.

Which video is it?
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:56 AM   #13
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Just looking at the format of that letter it looks like they are in Canada, Quebec most likely. You pretty much only see " GOVERN YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY " from French Canada. If you care to push on them a little you for sure can demand an address to write them and you can send a formal response. There's little chance they're going to do anything else but send out emails. They will of course send out emails to everyone who has anything to do with your site, such as hosts, etc... just like the letter says. Email is free and it's easy.

On the other hand, it would be so much easier to just take down the link and then tell them to fuck off, fuck their mom, etc..
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:06 AM   #14
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um...unless this came as a PHYSICAL certified letter that you had to sign for, it means NOTHING....honestly, the fact they sent it out as an email and no names attached, makes me think they don't even actually have a lawyer and are copying some form letter they found somewhere else
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:38 AM   #15
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:43 AM   #16
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:03 AM   #17
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So what is your site? I mean you complain about the lawyer not identifying himself yet you blank out your site name so we have no clue about you either ;)))
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:48 PM   #20
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Today I got an e-mail from Brazzers:


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We have been notified that you have been attempting to get in contact with our company.

Our records indicate that approximately one year ago infringing content was discovered on your site namely, www.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com.

If you have issues with our company and wish to communicate with us please do. Otherwise, we demand that you cease from posting our legal notices on public boards.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone.
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Today I got an e-mail from Brazzers:
Lol.The fuckers are around here.
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respectable company in the industry????

you have got to be kidding me.
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So you use content on your site you dont have the rights to, and you want us to cheer for you? in your fucking dreams!

Brazzers are scum - sure, but that dont make what you do any better
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Today I got an e-mail from Brazzers:
again, unless it is coming in the form of a certified letter to your doorstep that you have to sign for, ignore them

basically, you are dealing with some kids or adults that have no clue about how the REAL legal system works

I have been served C&D's before, and my lawyer instructed me that unless they come in the form of a physical letter in your hand that you sign for, they are just blowing smoke and most likely can't afford a real lawyer
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again, unless it is coming in the form of a certified letter to your doorstep that you have to sign for, ignore them

basically, you are dealing with some kids or adults that have no clue about how the REAL legal system works

I have been served C&D's before, and my lawyer instructed me that unless they come in the form of a physical letter in your hand that you sign for, they are just blowing smoke and most likely can't afford a real lawyer

a DMCA can be send by email, but the clock don't start ticking unless they confirm they have received it. And that is why your lawyer instructed you not to do anything. What most people then do is send the DMCA to the host, and they often reply.

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brazzers are bad boys with supporting all those tubes, but they have copyright to full content linked from your site, so whats up? if you dont like what they are doing and you sure rights are on your side, do something, but now are rights at their side imho ...
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That letter wasn't too inappropriate but they did a couple things that will cause them to not be taken seriously. If they don't identify themselves and don't leave a way to be contacted that is pathetic. I don't think many people would comply. For one reason its fucking lame, for another you can say you thought it was a prank. Also, giving you 24 hours to clean it up is a fucking joke if its a large tube site. They should have allowed 5 business days.
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lol, its only cause its their shit being used, besides, it must have been "user uploaded"



you would think that after a "real" lawyer sent that out a year ago, he or someone would follow up on it. Not just think ok we sent it, job done. high five!!!
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lol, its only cause its their shit being used, besides, it must have been "user uploaded"



you would think that after a "real" lawyer sent that out a year ago, he or someone would follow up on it. Not just think ok we sent it, job done. high five!!!
I said that they got bitchy. I told them I would remove the link if they told me the name of their lawyer.

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My web host is in Australia. If you send them a DMCA letter, they will tell you:

"We do not respond to copyright complaints without an order from an Australian Court. But we have forwarded your letter to our client. For this reason, we hope that you are able to resolve your dispute with our client."
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That letter wasn't too inappropriate but they did a couple things that will cause them to not be taken seriously. If they don't identify themselves and don't leave a way to be contacted that is pathetic. I don't think many people would comply. For one reason its fucking lame, for another you can say you thought it was a prank. Also, giving you 24 hours to clean it up is a fucking joke if its a large tube site. They should have allowed 5 business days.
I do not run a tube site. I run a website where I placed a link to a video hosted on megarotic.com. It was a video of Prya Rai getting fucked. It was the only Brazzers video that I ever linked to. If they hated the video so much, they could e-mail megarotic. Oh wait, they are megarotic's big advertiser...
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I said that they got bitchy. I told them I would remove the link if they told me the name of their lawyer.

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My web host is in Australia. If you send them a DMCA letter, they will tell you:

"We do not respond to copyright complaints without an order from an Australian Court. But we have forwarded your letter to our client. For this reason, we hope that you are able to resolve your dispute with our client."
They're probably asking you to remove the linked video from your site because it is associating their brand with something undesired, or even illegal, like beasty, cp, ra.pe, etc.
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I said that they got bitchy. I told them I would remove the link if they told me the name of their lawyer.

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My web host is in Australia. If you send them a DMCA letter, they will tell you:

"We do not respond to copyright complaints without an order from an Australian Court. But we have forwarded your letter to our client. For this reason, we hope that you are able to resolve your dispute with our client."
i would be VERY careful having anything adult on a website hosted in australia, i hope you know what you are doing
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Brazzers uses tubesites for traffic? What is so bad about that? You are using their content without proper permission for personal gain, and complaining that they noticed you about it asking you to stop, and you have a problem with that?

WTF?

You are a content thief... and a whiner.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:18 AM   #42
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i still dont see how linking a video or image online can constitute YOu becoming the thief. Simply linking an existing image or movie online somehow doesnt compute to theft imho... persuade me?

I am not supportive of content stealing, however, isnt this the same shit tgps have said forever?

"we are not responsible for the content on the pages we link to?"

Just curious, if this guy really just linking an mpg somewhere, sure its hotlinking, but that doesnt mean content stealing... (up for dialog but not name calling and ignorant chatter)
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I do not run a tube site. I run a website where I placed a link to a video hosted on megarotic.com. It was a video of Prya Rai getting fucked. It was the only Brazzers video that I ever linked to. If they hated the video so much, they could e-mail megarotic. Oh wait, they are megarotic's big advertiser...
So you run a forum and you post videos from other illegal places and don't support the companies that making the content? that about right?
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So you run a forum and you post videos from other illegal places and don't support the companies that making the content? that about right?
ummm we all hotlink images and movies from the internet on gfy and no one ever brings up ?
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Brazzers uses tubesites for traffic? What is so bad about that? You are using their content without proper permission for personal gain, and complaining that they noticed you about it asking you to stop, and you have a problem with that?

WTF?

You are a content thief... and a whiner.
Tube sites full of unlicensed content. Thats what makes it funny.
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i still dont see how linking a video or image online can constitute YOu becoming the thief. Simply linking an existing image or movie online somehow doesnt compute to theft imho... persuade me?

I am not supportive of content stealing, however, isnt this the same shit tgps have said forever?

"we are not responsible for the content on the pages we link to?"

Just curious, if this guy really just linking an mpg somewhere, sure its hotlinking, but that doesnt mean content stealing... (up for dialog but not name calling and ignorant chatter)
If I link to your content in such a way that you don't get proper branding, and/or if I use your bandwidth/hosting to convey that content in such a way that you don't get any benefit from it and my traffic/audience gets all the reward for which they are willing to pay me and not you for the privilege of accessing more content then what would you call that? Maybe not "theft" per se, but does "fraud" work for you?

Bottom line for me though is that in this case Brazzers as owners of the content are asking him not to do what he is doing and he should respect that. It is their content and they can protect and distribute it as they see fit. To tell them in so many words "F-off" makes it seem all the more abusive and a wonton disregard for some elses intellectual property.
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i still dont see how linking a video or image online can constitute YOu becoming the thief. Simply linking an existing image or movie online somehow doesnt compute to theft imho... persuade me?
In the USA embedding videos on your site that you don't have the right to use is still illegal. I believe there was a case about some guy embeding family guy vids on his site that got in some shit recently. He got in quite a bit of trouble too I think.

Although this is funny if brazzers really does own the tube site so many people say they do...
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If I link to your content in such a way that you don't get proper branding, and/or if I use your bandwidth/hosting to convey that content in such a way that you don't get any benefit from it and my traffic/audience gets all the reward for which they are willing to pay me and not you for the privilege of accessing more content then what would you call that? Maybe not "theft" per se, but does "fraud" work for you?
I understand, but if his infraction is in the form of a forum, how is that any different than people posting pics and movies here on gfy?

Content is hotlinked EVERYDAY from gfy, yet none of you come bring ? up then... I am just curious how this differs in any way from gfy and hotlinking content from here?

GFY makes a lot of money, and some would say, a portion of that could in fact be made possible by the amount of copied news articles (drama) and hotlinked images and movies (from the web) often in the form of someone elses created images and definitely someone elses hosting bill...

hopefully you understand my curiosity, as I surely understand your side.

If the variable which makes this a crime is profit, well,... look around.
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