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Scott McD · 01-24-2009, 03:52 AM

Fiddy tube sites !!!

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hypedough

Hi I launched a horrible tube site with a horrible domain for a few weeks, it didn't make money so the world is coming to an end. </Donny Long>

Hi I wish I was as smart as Donny Long and could have the skills and knowledge to build a tube!

Tippy · 01-24-2009, 04:42 AM

This would only spread the illegal content further then it already is adding to the problem. I also feel it would simply bring more traffic to their sites as most of the embeds have a link to their site and chances are the person will check them out for themselves.

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

Fiddy tube sites !!!

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donnylong · 01-24-2009, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippy

This would only spread the illegal content further then it already is adding to the problem. I also feel it would simply bring more traffic to their sites as most of the embeds have a link to their site and chances are the person will check them out for themselves.

not if its done right see http://www.cliphunter.com

quantum-x · 01-24-2009, 06:07 AM

Try leeching a RedTube video with no referer set - it'll go 403.
They actively filter, and they also monitor the leeching / refering list.

Tippy · 01-24-2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

not if its done right see http://www.cliphunter.com

Hmm... I just tried it, first video I played, hovered over video and saw MegaPorn ad, clicked on the video and was taken to megaporns site, I guess they did it wrong...

gooddomains · 01-24-2009, 10:01 AM

using the london tube is awesome

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippy

Hmm... I just tried it, first video I played, hovered over video and saw MegaPorn ad, clicked on the video and was taken to megaporns site, I guess they did it wrong...

thats fine it still played video though. thats the point because people know if they go to redtube it has a shit 8k of videos

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

using the london tube is awesome

wtf is the london tube

baddog · 01-24-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

wtf is the london tube

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

CaptainHowdy · 01-24-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

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donnylong · 01-24-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

you know I saw your cant get laid old ugly ass at the palms this year and was wondering why you couldnt come talk shit to my face when i stared you down but i guess you have no balls, so just stay the fuck off my threads loser.

HandballJim · 01-24-2009, 04:58 PM

Tube sites are played out already...something new will start buzzing. YouTube is the only real good tube site for mainstream....and has like 99% of illegal shit. I even have 10 tube sites with the script in my sig.

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

Tube sites are played out already...something new will start buzzing. YouTube is the only real good tube site for mainstream....and has like 99% of illegal shit. I even have 10 tube sites with the script in my sig.

I see that goes to AEBN which = pornotube.com which = thieves so do they give you all the stolen videos from pornotube to promote too?

HandballJim · 01-24-2009, 06:25 PM

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I see that goes to AEBN which = pornotube.com which = thieves so do they give you all the stolen videos from pornotube to promote too?

Are you dumb or do you just act dumb? You need to learn what Tube is = Videos. AEBN one of the leaders in VOD lets you view a sample, in which gives you the option to watch the movie (the movie that AEBN pays the studios to use).

You need to pay to view it = not free. Just about all the sponsored galleries on the web let you see a sample. The last thing I would want is legal issues.

So instead of talking about something you don't know about, join the sponsor and read what they offer. They are a high profile company in the industry. Again Tube sites are all the rage now...you get traffic...but the only way to make money is with something like blacklabelads......and nobody going to these tube sites buy cams or dating...they just add these banners and hope...because they are already giving the videos away for free. I am sure most on GFY have there token tube site...this is why they ask so many fucking questions about the legalities.

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

Are you dumb or do you just act dumb? You need to learn what Tube is = Videos. AEBN one of the leaders in VOD lets you view a sample, in which gives you the option to watch the movie (the movie that AEBN pays the studios to use).

You need to pay to view it = not free. Just about all the sponsored galleries on the web let you see a sample. The last thing I would want is legal issues.

So instead of talking about something you don't know about, join the sponsor and read what they offer. They are a high profile company in the industry. Again Tube sites are all the rage now...you get traffic...but the only way to make money is with something like blacklabelads......and nobody going to these tube sites buy cams or dating...they just add these banners and hope...because they are already giving the videos away for free. I am sure most on GFY have there token tube site...this is why they ask so many fucking questions about the legalities.

No shit asshole I know what VOD and everything else is but I also know what a porntube filled with stolen content is = pornotube.com = OWNER AEBN
so get a education and read my post before trying to slam me!

baddog · 01-24-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

you know I saw your cant get laid old ugly ass at the palms this year and was wondering why you couldnt come talk shit to my face when i stared you down but i guess you have no balls, so just stay the fuck off my threads loser.

When you stared me down?

I am sorry, but I would not recognize you in an empty room much less a bar, casino, or party. If you want to stare me down you should at least come up and introduce yourself next time.

You are a funny guy.

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

When you stared me down?

I am sorry, but I would not recognize you in an empty room much less a bar, casino, or party. If you want to stare me down you should at least come up and introduce yourself next time.

You are a funny guy.

your funny its pretty hard to miss a guy 6'1 with a hot Asian with big tits with green watermark Donny Long Production tshirts on!

HandballJim · 01-24-2009, 07:23 PM

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I also know what a porntube filled with stolen content is = pornotube.com = OWNER AEBN

Gotcha

Not sure if it is all stolen though since most of the content owners are also with them in the VOD part of the business. Sorry about slaming you so fast...not sure if it is from living in the Bronx my whole life or hanging out on GFY and reading some of the posts.

baddog · 01-24-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

your funny its pretty hard to miss a guy 6'1 with a hot Asian with big tits with green watermark Donny Long Production tshirts on!

You know what is funny, is that if you were staring me down, not only did I not notice it, but goodgirl did not notice it either. She certainly would have asked me why you were staring at me.

So, how about a hint . . . where did this stare down occur?

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

Gotcha

Not sure if it is all stolen though since most of the content owners are also with them in the VOD part of the business. Sorry about slaming you so fast...not sure if it is from living in the Bronx my whole life or hanging out on GFY and reading some of the posts.

its cool a lot of people of gfy are idiots and dont make any money in the biz and or are just jealous hater and can be dicks at times so I bet I would have responded the same way if I didnt understand. As far as people doing business with big theives its kind of like if you cant beat them join them and I am sure anyone doing business with them is kind of forced to and wish pornotube and all the others just didnt even exist!

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You know what is funny, is that if you were staring me down, not only did I not notice it, but goodgirl did not notice it either. She certainly would have asked me why you were staring at me.

So, how about a hint . . . where did this stare down occur?

just stay off my threads and get lost dude. you got no love here!

baddog · 01-24-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

just stay off my threads and get lost dude. you got no love here!

Did you happen to read the title of the thread you started?

donnylong · 01-24-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Did you happen to read the title of the thread you started?

you know what your right instead of EVERYONE INSIDE I should have put everyone inside thats not a brainless asshole like yourself my bad

2MuchMark · 01-24-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

2. DMCA is pretty much worthless anyways here is why no?
Person buys overseas server put all of brazzers members area on it and brazzers sends out a DMCA to a company that is hosting it overseas and the hosting company replies that they dont need to follow DMCA or maybe doesnt even reply at all, then what?

I disagree. DMCA has been good for us. Every time we catch some scumbag stealing our hard word and calling it their own we have DMCA'd their ass and had them either shut down or our content removed.

We have never used this on hosts outside of North America but even if the hosts refuse, billing companies like CCBIll EU, Verotel and others will listen.

2MuchMark · 01-24-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

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Originally Posted by baddog
Your ignorance knows no bounds.

you know I saw your cant get laid old ugly ass at the palms this year and was wondering why you couldnt come talk shit to my face when i stared you down but i guess you have no balls, so just stay the fuck off my threads loser.

Oh, Fuck..........

Paul Markham · 01-24-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by munki

In your given scenario:

1. Cliphunter could get DMCA from original content owner... whether embedded on your site or hosted local.
2. DMCA is recognized by WIPO, and has been followed up with similar legislature in most areas.

DMCA is the first step to going to court or the last step in trying to bring down your stolen content. When 99.9% of people who send one do so they are hoping the site, hosting company or anyone else will take notice and remove the content. I imagine the odds on them taking people to court who refuse to honor a DMCA are a lot longer than 1 in 99.

In fact a thief could say he never got the notice and you would never be able to prove it, unless you sent is via Fed Ex and could prove it. When you do that and go to court you also need screen caps and videos to prove the offending site was offending on the day you alleged. Yes you can do it under a sworn oath and the defendant can counter it with his sworn oath.

Most times a polite email with the URL and proof it's yours will get the content taken down. But that requires the willingness of the offender.

To Donny. You're wasting your time because these guys have no answer to Tubes. And because of that Tubes will change the business for them. In fact Tubes are changing the business for them. They are losing sales and putting up more free content to combat the deluge of free content on the Net.

Now they will flame me and tell affiliates to come to their sites to get their free content to get more traffic that will pass over their site. Or start their own Tube site.

donnylong · 01-25-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

DMCA is the first step to going to court or the last step in trying to bring down your stolen content. When 99.9% of people who send one do so they are hoping the site, hosting company or anyone else will take notice and remove the content. I imagine the odds on them taking people to court who refuse to honor a DMCA are a lot longer than 1 in 99.

In fact a thief could say he never got the notice and you would never be able to prove it, unless you sent is via Fed Ex and could prove it. When you do that and go to court you also need screen caps and videos to prove the offending site was offending on the day you alleged. Yes you can do it under a sworn oath and the defendant can counter it with his sworn oath.

Most times a polite email with the URL and proof it's yours will get the content taken down. But that requires the willingness of the offender.

To Donny. You're wasting your time because these guys have no answer to Tubes. And because of that Tubes will change the business for them. In fact Tubes are changing the business for them. They are losing sales and putting up more free content to combat the deluge of free content on the Net.

Now they will flame me and tell affiliates to come to their sites to get their free content to get more traffic that will pass over their site. Or start their own Tube site.

This is all very true and the fact that the tubes have ruined the biz is even more reason to join them if you cant beat them or maybe my new tube I am working on that takes all there content will teach them a lesson lol naa just kidding but it might just get to be bigger than theirs!

donnylong · 01-25-2009, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

I disagree. DMCA has been good for us. Every time we catch some scumbag stealing our hard word and calling it their own we have DMCA'd their ass and had them either shut down or our content removed.

We have never used this on hosts outside of North America but even if the hosts refuse, billing companies like CCBIll EU, Verotel and others will listen.

So far it has been good to you. But tubes still ruined the biz! Just look at the amount of people that had booths this year at AVN anyways feel for all, war! Stay tuned

Paul Markham · 01-25-2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

This is all very true and the fact that the tubes have ruined the biz is even more reason to join them if you cant beat them or maybe my new tube I am working on that takes all there content will teach them a lesson lol naa just kidding but it might just get to be bigger than theirs!

For many it's true. Many know how to drive traffic and little else. For those who know how to create, publish and sell porn there is another road.

I put in a free show for members and already conversion ratios are improving. Need to do more on the pages selling the show but as most know the last week has been a bit different for me. Spending more time in waiting rooms than the office. LOL

If you can create, publish and sell something the porn consumer prefers to Tubes you will survive. If you can't and think driving traffic is the answer you will not. No industry is based on giving it away for free. Even TV is now paid for. And they sometimes drop ads in every 12 minutes while you pay your cable bill.

donnylong · 01-25-2009, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

For many it's true. Many know how to drive traffic and little else. For those who know how to create, publish and sell porn there is another road.

I put in a free show for members and already conversion ratios are improving. Need to do more on the pages selling the show but as most know the last week has been a bit different for me. Spending more time in waiting rooms than the office. LOL

If you can create, publish and sell something the porn consumer prefers to Tubes you will survive. If you can't and think driving traffic is the answer you will not. No industry is based on giving it away for free. Even TV is now paid for. And they sometimes drop ads in every 12 minutes while you pay your cable bill.

very very true but i am fed up with the tubes ruining our industry and i am going to take some of there cake and eat it too and i hope your waiting room experience is a good one!

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-25-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

You want to be mature and explain? Or you to be childish like a some other peps around here that are nobodies because with that comment you fit right in!

You are nothing more than a content dick, please try to not forget that in the future...

donnylong · 01-25-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

You are nothing more than a content dick, please try to not forget that in the future...

your nothing more than a childish coward remember that every time you hide behind your keyboard and fake nick.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-25-2009, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

your nothing more than a childish coward remember that every time you hide behind your keyboard and fake nick.

stop thinking, keep fucking, that's what stupid people are good for. you're like janeb with a cock...

i don't have a fake nick, this is all me. if i ever do make my way south for a show, i'll gladly tell you to your scrawny ass face what a dumb cunt you are. you're not a big guy, you're not a smart guy, and you certainly are not in any way shape or form a scary guy. call me a coward all you'd like, i'm no more going to make a trip to see you in person than you would i. and your tough guy snapbacks are no less internet tough guy cowardice than my own.

enjoy your delusional little world of grandeur...

donnylong · 01-25-2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

stop thinking, keep fucking, that's what stupid people are good for. you're like janeb with a cock...

i don't have a fake nick, this is all me. if i ever do make my way south for a show, i'll gladly tell you to your scrawny ass face what a dumb cunt you are. you're not a big guy, you're not a smart guy, and you certainly are not in any way shape or form a scary guy. call me a coward all you'd like, i'm no more going to make a trip to see you in person than you would i. and your tough guy snapbacks are no less internet tough guy cowardice than my own.

enjoy your delusional little world of grandeur...

your such a big smart guy yea!!! whasts your big company again? dick head entertainment?

MasterBlow · 01-25-2009, 03:32 AM

biggestporntube.com has PR 0 (zero)

donnylong · 01-25-2009, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterBlow

biggestporntube.com has PR 0 (zero)

Its has been up 1 month!

Paul Markham · 01-25-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by donnylong

very very true but i am fed up with the tubes ruining our industry and i am going to take some of there cake and eat it too and i hope your waiting room experience is a good one!

Tube sites never ruined our industry. The paysite owners who spend a fortune on giving out free content to get traffic that would never sign up ruined our industry. Think about it for a moment, we as an industry spend more money on getting traffic than what the traffic will buy, what keeps them buying and what makes them come back to buy. Tubes would never flourish and be competition to us if we spent 25% of our turnover on members areas. We spend a lot more than that on people who don't buy.

donnylong · 01-25-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Tube sites never ruined our industry. The paysite owners who spend a fortune on giving out free content to get traffic that would never sign up ruined our industry. Think about it for a moment, we as an industry spend more money on getting traffic than what the traffic will buy, what keeps them buying and what makes them come back to buy. Tubes would never flourish and be competition to us if we spent 25% of our turnover on members areas. We spend a lot more than that on people who don't buy.

I disagree because if there were no tube sites then dvd companies would still be in business and most of LA's business was dvd till about a year and a half ago.

SpicyM · 01-25-2009, 04:13 PM

cliphunter=tube?? Wow, I didnt notice that until now... looks like another good site went to shit

this could be one of the reasons why my sales dropped, as krawl was sending me the most sales from all tgps, bad news for me

donnylong · 01-25-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

cliphunter=tube?? Wow, I didnt notice that until now... looks like another good site went to shit

this could be one of the reasons why my sales dropped, as krawl was sending me the most sales from all tgps, bad news for me

yup and not only a tube but a tube with 250,000 videos from all the big tubes wtf?

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HandballJim Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4,024	Tube sites are played out already...something new will start buzzing. YouTube is the only real good tube site for mainstream....and has like 99% of illegal shit. I even have 10 tube sites with the script in my sig. __________________ HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$

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MasterBlow Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 2,059	biggestporntube.com has PR 0 (zero) __________________

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gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	using the london tube is awesome

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SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,534	cliphunter=tube?? Wow, I didnt notice that until now... looks like another good site went to shit this could be one of the reasons why my sales dropped, as krawl was sending me the most sales from all tgps, bad news for me Last edited by SpicyM; 01-25-2009 at 04:15 PM..