V_RocKs Stats for 2008 - GoFuckYourself.com

V_RocKs · 01-26-2009, 04:37 PM

Just saw XXXJay's stats and decided to release my own. What can I say? XXXJay has been an inspiration of mine ever since I first found his site and wondered how the fucker was making money.

Stats 2008

polish_aristocrat · 01-26-2009, 04:40 PM

Rage Cash with hahaha doing better than before he bought it?

... and everyone is complaining how hahaha destroys the programs he buys

chupachups · 01-26-2009, 04:41 PM

Interesting = "Rage Cash - The only program I am pushing that GOT BETTER when hahaha took it over."

VIPimp · 01-26-2009, 04:43 PM

Are you sure the ratios are all based on 1st page hits? Remember many programs dont count 1st page or dont base their ratios on 1st page.

Nicky · 01-26-2009, 04:43 PM

Sweet, will check some of those proggies out for some new blog and freesite ventures

TeenCat · 01-26-2009, 04:53 PM

oh my heart ... 0:21k ... nice that you dont have ref code with the crappy results programs

thanks for sharing and wish you best with your sites!

d-null · 01-26-2009, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp

Are you sure the ratios are all based on 1st page hits? Remember many programs dont count 1st page or dont base their ratios on 1st page.

at the risk of speaking incorrectly for V_Rocks, I believe he mentioned before that he keeps track of all of his own stats/ratios independently of what the sponsors themselves claim, so he is actually tracking hits sent to sponsors the same for all sponsors

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-26-2009, 05:06 PM

with NaughtyAmerica you have the ref

http://incredibledollars.com/track/MjE2OjIwOjE0/

JustDaveXxx · 01-26-2009, 05:07 PM

Good stuff. Thanx for sharing.

Niktamer · 01-26-2009, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null

at the risk of speaking incorrectly for V_Rocks, I believe he mentioned before that he keeps track of all of his own stats/ratios independently of what the sponsors themselves claim, so he is actually tracking hits sent to sponsors the same for all sponsors

smart move .. lots of work

wish i could take the time to do this.

its so different from one to another.

V_RocKs · 01-26-2009, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

with NaughtyAmerica you have the ref

http://incredibledollars.com/track/MjE2OjIwOjE0/

Sure about that?

V_RocKs · 01-26-2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp

Are you sure the ratios are all based on 1st page hits? Remember many programs dont count 1st page or dont base their ratios on 1st page.

These stats are from Stats Remote.

I don't have time to break down this many programs stats any other way... Project took 30 minutes... Didn't want to make it an all day thing.

doridori · 01-26-2009, 05:11 PM

Lightspeed Cash 0:5042

lol!

Dirty D · 01-26-2009, 05:12 PM

Interesting stats.

Hope you add our unique sites and add another revenue stream

www.HowIgotRich.com

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-26-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Sure about that?

Yep, as far as my browser says.

TeenSluts · 01-26-2009, 05:15 PM

cool stuff

Agent 488 · 01-26-2009, 05:16 PM

interesting. what's "Daring Press"?

bdld · 01-26-2009, 05:17 PM

thanks for sharing, always nice to see if im getting similar numbers. ive been meaning to do this but figured it would take too much time to compile.

Nicky · 01-26-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes

interesting. what's "Daring Press"?

guy behind darering.com and sellyoursextape.com good clean amateur sites that convert. Fucking shame he has no webmaster ref payout LOL I have pointed for sure 10+ people his way

Agent 488 · 01-26-2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

guy behind darering.com and sellyoursextape.com good clean amateur sites that convert. Fucking shame he has no webmaster ref payout LOL I have pointed for sure 10+ people his way

ah . thanks.

Kard63 · 01-26-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Just saw XXXJay's stats and decided to release my own. What can I say? XXXJay has been an inspiration of mine ever since I first found his site and wondered how the fucker was making money.

Stats 2008

Thank you for the stats. I think I'll make some changes (or at least try some things) based on them. I remember reading some threads about companies reporting stats differently to hide their shitty numbers. Specifically I remember someone saying Lightspeed uses the number of people from the 2nd page of the tour when everyone else uses the 1st page of the tour. I didn't pay any attention at the time because Juggcash made life easy and I liked their porn. I'm looking to expand now. My question is, do all of these companies you have listed use the same measurables? Are they all from the first page of the tour or the last page of the tour? Google Analytics defines a returning surfer unique if they have been gone 30 minutes. I think Extreme Tracker goes by a 24 hour period based on the Central time zone. Do all of these companies interpret these numbers the same? (I went back to read some responses in your thread just now before posting. Stats Remote just takes the numbers from the sponsor right? It would make all things equal, correct? Does a list of the inconsistencies exist? That could be a fun project)

Even if they don't you've certainly provided a very good view of your statistics from many angles. It will still provide me with a good idea of what to test.

I troll this forum looking for someone writing about a topic relevant to me and who isn't writing something fucking stupid. That is an incredibly hard combination to come by here... If you have some hidden agenda and posted this for selfish purposes you have fooled me. It looks genuinely helpful. Thanks.

V_RocKs · 01-26-2009, 05:40 PM

Dare Ring.

Strange how no program born pre 2003 did this a long fucking time ago.

Especially Light Speed.

d-null · 01-26-2009, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63

I troll this forum looking for someone writing about a topic relevant to me and who isn't writing something fucking stupid. That is an incredibly hard combination to come by here... If you have some hidden agenda and posted this for selfish purposes you have fooled me. It looks genuinely helpful. Thanks.

V_Rocks is consistently one of the best posters on this forum

SomeCreep · 01-26-2009, 05:43 PM

good stuff

V_RocKs · 01-26-2009, 05:47 PM

One of the things you might look at is pay per click. Most of my non SEO traffic is teen traffic and much of the SEO is also teen traffic and many of these programs are revshare...

So programs with a good pay per click and are in the top ten would be a no-brainer.

Meat Cash is almost all rebills. So it is unfairly showing a high pay per click. And those tapered off SHARPLY in the last 2 months due to sites not updating any where near as much as they did pre-hahaha. But then again, I think they sold to hahaha because they weren't going to have money to update or something... Because it seems that problem actually started months before hahaha bought it.

Also, PPS programs with a PPC of .04+ are actually good. It is the rebills from revshare that boost the ones above that.

Kard63 · 01-26-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Also, PPS programs with a PPC of .04+ are actually good. It is the rebills from revshare that boost the ones above that.

Why do you mix ppc and revshare on the same sponsor? Is it because you have very different traffic sources for that sponsor? What do you chose for your SE traffic?

JD · 01-26-2009, 06:00 PM

OT: do you write your own posts or have a writer?

Joe BrainCash · 01-26-2009, 06:17 PM

Thanks V-Rock for promoting us in the first place. The fact that you're happy with your results and the crazy rebills you mentionned makes my day.

VIPimp · 01-26-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

These stats are from Stats Remote.

I don't have time to break down this many programs stats any other way... Project took 30 minutes... Didn't want to make it an all day thing.

Yea I think for many then you are seeing join page ratios as stats remote is just picking up the stats they show.
Probably want to see which sponsors are counting how and mark those, otherwise you can have a really great ratio for a sponsor on there that in reality is worst.

SteveHardeman · 01-26-2009, 06:38 PM

Another quality post from V_Rocks. Disappointed my program isn't on the list but hey, it appears you're quite busy. :-) Hope 2009 does great for you.

VIPimp, love your sig.

munki · 01-26-2009, 06:41 PM

Good show dood...

01-26-2009, 06:43 PM

Nice stats man!

We need more webmasters doing something like this.

donnylong · 01-26-2009, 07:31 PM

well vrocks I must say even though you can be a dick I knew you owned a ton of sites but becaue of this post i give you credit for being pretty smart! Good job!

0:21609 thats wild hahahaha wont be sending traffic there way so thanks for the stats, i will for sure be comparing this to jay's stats and keeping it in mind!
Now Flame away

Kellie · 01-26-2009, 08:39 PM

Thanks for the mention

And I think Gigi is amazing as well! Naughty 'lil teen ;)

Thurbs · 01-26-2009, 08:45 PM

nice stats V - new sleep assault stuff was put up, new ones coming later this week

Iron Fist · 01-26-2009, 11:29 PM

Well I think i'll get my stats page ready as well for 2008...

looks good and mine compare similar to yours V..

Kron · 01-26-2009, 11:40 PM

very nice, thanks

DamageX · 01-27-2009, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

Rage Cash with hahaha doing better than before he bought it?

... and everyone is complaining how hahaha destroys the programs he buys

He does.

fuzebox · 01-27-2009, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

Rage Cash with hahaha doing better than before he bought it?

... and everyone is complaining how hahaha destroys the programs he buys

Both Rage Cash and Join Right Now started converting 2-3x better for me after being acquired and switched to NATS.

StaceyJo · 01-27-2009, 04:35 AM

Good stuff.

Matyko · 01-27-2009, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

Another quality post from V_Rocks. Disappointed my program isn't on the list but hey, it appears you're quite busy. :-) Hope 2009 does great for you.

+1,
+1,
+1.

Daddy Big Nuts · 01-27-2009, 07:12 AM

Thanks for the info! Newbies like us need all the help that we can get seeing who's doing things right and not so right

Agent 488 · 01-27-2009, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Both Rage Cash and Join Right Now started converting 2-3x better for me after being acquired and switched to NATS.

same with the one epic cash site i promote - but i think it's just due to nats and sales actually being tracked.

Reak AGV · 01-27-2009, 09:56 AM

Good to see that RageCash is doing better after hahaha bought it

V_RocKs · 01-27-2009, 10:07 AM

Join Right Now... This is a program I tried pushing in 2006. I gave up. I might try it again.

Mutt · 01-27-2009, 10:07 AM

you promote teen solo girls and i see no stats for Dawson Miller

Snake Doctor · 01-27-2009, 10:15 AM

Props to V_Rocks for doing this....the only thing that sucks with these types of things is that sponsors who only count 2nd, 3rd, or join page hits get moved to the top.
This is why those sponsors do that, and it kind of sucks that they get rewarded for their shady-ness.

tranza · 01-27-2009, 10:38 AM

Thanks for sharing!

V_RocKs · 01-27-2009, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Props to V_Rocks for doing this....the only thing that sucks with these types of things is that sponsors who only count 2nd, 3rd, or join page hits get moved to the top.
This is why those sponsors do that, and it kind of sucks that they get rewarded for their shady-ness.

To address that statement.

For the most part 95% of my sponsors use MPA/NATS/CCBILL stats. Yes the CCBILL's will be higher because they track everything...

But when you look at those numbers and you look at how much traffic I throw at the sponsors I can say, "Hmm.. Top Bucks and Naughty America are lower because they don't convert my traffic as well as the others do."

Looking at my traffic I can say things like:

Fuck You Cash should have converted better and I should have made more for the traffic. Primarily it is for 18yearsold.com and I often thought about sending the traffic to Pure18.com or a Teen Revenue all access pass page. But then Teen Revenue is one of those sponsors that doesn't count all of the clicks.

Between Rage Cash and Fuck You Cash the difference in money is over double in RC's favor. With less traffic. Both programs use NATS.

TCG and TR both use the 2nd page hits scheme. 12% difference in amount of traffic sent to both programs in TR's favor. 360% more money in TR's favor. 450% more signups though they cost less... But with rebills at 67% they blow away most PPS programs.

Spankys Teens · 01-27-2009, 11:02 AM

thanks for the share- u r one of the most interesting guys out here always helping out

i respect you a lot....

01-26-2009, 04:37 PM	#1
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,405	V_RocKs Stats for 2008 Just saw XXXJay's stats and decided to release my own. What can I say? XXXJay has been an inspiration of mine ever since I first found his site and wondered how the fucker was making money. Stats 2008

01-26-2009, 04:40 PM	#2
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Rage Cash with hahaha doing better than before he bought it? ... and everyone is complaining how hahaha destroys the programs he buys __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

01-26-2009, 04:43 PM	#5
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	Sweet, will check some of those proggies out for some new blog and freesite ventures __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

01-26-2009, 04:53 PM	#6
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	oh my heart ... 0:21k ... nice that you dont have ref code with the crappy results programs thanks for sharing and wish you best with your sites! __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

01-26-2009, 05:06 PM	#8
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01-26-2009, 04:41 PM	#3
chupachups Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden/Spain you sum bitch! Posts: 6,576	Interesting = "Rage Cash - The only program I am pushing that GOT BETTER when hahaha took it over."

01-26-2009, 04:43 PM	#4
VIPimp Marina WILL have my babies! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,234	Are you sure the ratios are all based on 1st page hits? Remember many programs dont count 1st page or dont base their ratios on 1st page.

01-26-2009, 05:07 PM	#9
JustDaveXxx I AM JUSTDAVE ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: LA Posts: 4,111	Good stuff. Thanx for sharing. __________________ Smut Peddler Productions.com ICQ #378-696-435 / / Skype: JustDaveXxx "We shoot custom, exclusive content your way"

01-26-2009, 05:11 PM	#13
doridori So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canadia Posts: 2,222	Lightspeed Cash 0:5042 lol!

01-26-2009, 05:12 PM	#14
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01-26-2009, 05:15 PM	#16
TeenSluts Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,966	cool stuff

01-26-2009, 05:16 PM	#17
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	interesting. what's "Daring Press"?

01-26-2009, 05:17 PM	#18
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	thanks for sharing, always nice to see if im getting similar numbers. ive been meaning to do this but figured it would take too much time to compile.

01-26-2009, 05:40 PM	#22
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,405	Dare Ring. Strange how no program born pre 2003 did this a long fucking time ago. Especially Light Speed.

01-26-2009, 05:43 PM	#24
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	good stuff __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

01-26-2009, 05:47 PM	#25
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,405	One of the things you might look at is pay per click. Most of my non SEO traffic is teen traffic and much of the SEO is also teen traffic and many of these programs are revshare... So programs with a good pay per click and are in the top ten would be a no-brainer. Meat Cash is almost all rebills. So it is unfairly showing a high pay per click. And those tapered off SHARPLY in the last 2 months due to sites not updating any where near as much as they did pre-hahaha. But then again, I think they sold to hahaha because they weren't going to have money to update or something... Because it seems that problem actually started months before hahaha bought it. Also, PPS programs with a PPC of .04+ are actually good. It is the rebills from revshare that boost the ones above that. Last edited by V_RocKs; 01-26-2009 at 05:48 PM..

01-26-2009, 06:00 PM	#27
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	OT: do you write your own posts or have a writer?

01-26-2009, 06:17 PM	#28
Joe BrainCash Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boy, life is difficult... Posts: 2,092	Thanks V-Rock for promoting us in the first place. The fact that you're happy with your results and the crazy rebills you mentionned makes my day. __________________ [email protected] ICQ: 394.549.466

01-26-2009, 06:38 PM	#30
SteveHardeman Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,728	Another quality post from V_Rocks. Disappointed my program isn't on the list but hey, it appears you're quite busy. :-) Hope 2009 does great for you. VIPimp, love your sig. __________________ BrokeAmateurs And ErosPOV And GirlsGoingSolo And PureAshley Sign Up At AmateursConvert.com Questions? I-C-Q: 3Five1FiveFive3476

01-26-2009, 06:41 PM	#31
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	Good show dood... __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

01-26-2009, 06:43 PM	#32
Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE Guest Posts: n/a	Nice stats man! We need more webmasters doing something like this.

01-26-2009, 07:31 PM	#33
donnylong So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,164	well vrocks I must say even though you can be a dick I knew you owned a ton of sites but becaue of this post i give you credit for being pretty smart! Good job! 0:21609 thats wild hahahaha wont be sending traffic there way so thanks for the stats, i will for sure be comparing this to jay's stats and keeping it in mind! Now Flame away

01-26-2009, 08:39 PM	#34
Kellie Cherry Pimps Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,198	Thanks for the mention And I think Gigi is amazing as well! Naughty 'lil teen ;) __________________ Traffic Pimps Webmaster / Content Manager Email: [email protected] Skype: kellie_az ICQ: 216375050 Last edited by Kellie; 01-26-2009 at 08:41 PM..

01-26-2009, 08:45 PM	#35
Thurbs The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island Posts: 4,785	nice stats V - new sleep assault stuff was put up, new ones coming later this week

01-26-2009, 11:29 PM	#36
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Well I think i'll get my stats page ready as well for 2008... looks good and mine compare similar to yours V.. __________________ i like waffles

01-26-2009, 11:40 PM	#37
Kron Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,668	very nice, thanks __________________ I dont exchange money!

01-27-2009, 04:35 AM	#40
StaceyJo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8,960	Good stuff. __________________ /_______ WebCashMaker ______\ \| _TeenageDecadence - Young Board Naked Teens. \| \| ____ NonNudeGirls - Female Puberty Photos. ____ \| \| _ HerSelfPics - The ORIGINAL exGF SelfPic site. __ \| \.______ xPosing - Wife Photosharing site. _______./

01-27-2009, 07:12 AM	#42
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01-27-2009, 09:56 AM	#44
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01-27-2009, 10:07 AM	#45
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,405	Join Right Now... This is a program I tried pushing in 2006. I gave up. I might try it again.

01-27-2009, 10:07 AM	#46
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	you promote teen solo girls and i see no stats for Dawson Miller __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-27-2009, 10:15 AM	#47
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Props to V_Rocks for doing this....the only thing that sucks with these types of things is that sponsors who only count 2nd, 3rd, or join page hits get moved to the top. This is why those sponsors do that, and it kind of sucks that they get rewarded for their shady-ness. __________________ sig too big

01-27-2009, 10:38 AM	#48
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Thanks for sharing! __________________ I'm just a newbie.

01-27-2009, 11:02 AM	#50
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