..A question for the PRODUCERS

[digitaldivas]

I have a pricing structure for talent for my foot fetish site, it is as follows

These pricing structures are designed for your personal comfort level.

150.00 photo/video 2 hour shoot non nude

200.00 photo/video 2.5 hour shoot non nude with 20 minute foot worship video

250.00 photo/video 3 hour shoot lingerie

300.00 photo/video 3.5 hour shoot lingerie with 20 minute foot worship video

350.00 photo/video 4 hour topless with 30 minute foot worship video

400.00 photo/video 4 hour nude with 30 minute foot worship video

500.00 photo/video 4 hour adult with 30 minute foot worship video,

DEFINITIONS:

NON NUDE-mini skirt , low cut top.

LINGERIE-to victoria secret type bra and t -bar type panties, they have to match, please.

TOPLESS-I shoot about 30-45 minutes of this content, it is of a suggestive nature, and prefer busty to request this type of shoot, please. My definition of busty is d cup or larger.

ADULT-Mistress, Femdom, lascivious shots, With Foot Adoration and Foot Worship

FOOT WORSHIP -Kissing and smelling womens feet... basically.

It would like to think that this is industry standard, but have been getting comments such as "well so and so paid me 1000.00 bucks for the same thing" etc.

I do understand name recognition and that sort of thing, and do compensate accordingly, but am I "off" in my general pricing for niche fetish?!?

[NaughtyRob]

$1,000 for the same thing is bullshit, your rates are fair.

[digitaldivas]

thank you get naughty, I figured that they were and even my adult actress friends are saying the same thing. With so many shady producers in the Biz, I want to keep my reputation as pristine as possible. It really matters to me. The 1k quote was from a shoot she had with a DVD distributor...

[NaughtyRob]

Just explain that you don't have a big budget like they do. If that girl doesnt want the work 50 others will.

[Barefootsies]

Prices are 'industry' fair.

Good luck in this market. You'll need it.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Prices are 'industry' fair.

Good luck in this market. You'll need it.

Oh I have been producing exclusive content for 6 years, but yes, thanks for the input as well. As long as you guys and gals agree, that is all of the proof I need.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by GetNaughty

Just explain that you don't have a big budget like they do. If that girl doesnt want the work 50 others will.

Very well said

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

Oh I have been producing exclusive content for 6 years, but yes, thanks for the input as well. As long as you guys and gals agree, that is all of the proof I need.

I wasn't talking about your content skills. I was talking about succeeding in foot niche if you have not done work in it previously, which I pondered from your rates and post.

You're welcome on the feedback.

[digitaldivas]

Barefootsies, before beauifulfeetonline, I owned fivelittlepiggy.com. Been shooting foot fetish since 2002. I am doing pretty good, bought a mercedes from what I made last year. I would assume that as long as no one else is shooting niche ff or ph content in HD, I will continue too, lol. It's not just HD though, some large fetish sites are not run by fetishists and there is no passion for the most part. It's an extreme passion for me. I do like to check periodically and make sure I am current on pricing though.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

Barefootsies, before beauifulfeetonline, I owned fivelittlepiggy.com. Been shooting foot fetish since 2002. I am doing pretty good, bought a mercedes from what I made last year. I would assume that as long as no one else is shooting niche ff or ph content in HD, I will continue too, lol. It's not just HD though, some large fetish sites are not run by fetishists and there is no passion for the most part. It's an extreme passion for me.

Awesome man!

I wanna see some of your sites. Sounds like you have a passion, like I do, for the feet. A lot of the normal sites I jerk to seem to be dieing off (favorite clip stores). I need some new material.

If you have a clip store, and can point me to some sites you do or have done content for, I will see if it is the kind I like.

No offense meant bud. Recently seems there is a mad rush into the niche, and I know most of the people do not have a clue on how to shoot foot fetish. So they are destine to fail.

My apologies.

[JP-pornshooter]

whatever you get away with is fair, as long as both parties agree prior to starting the job.
your rates appear in line with my experience and models will ALWAYS try to milk it.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

It would like to think that this is industry standard, but have been getting comments such as "well so and so paid me 1000.00 bucks for the same thing" etc.

..............in my short personal experience of shooting pics and vids with girls I can tell you that you might want to think twice before you even let the girls know you have a price structure. That kinda shit you want to keep to yourself. Here's why:

You make me think of 2 girls in particular, we'll call em' girl A and girl B.

Girl A is an alright looking, but not great looking person. Bad attitude, and it shows in the pics or vids. Unfortunantly when I met girl A, I was just moronic enough to tell her what I would pay for what. After that, she expected that much every time we shot, wether the shoot was shit or not, and it usually was.

Girl B is an amazing specimen, 100% what I've been looking for. Because of girl A, I never told girl B how much I would pay. I just asked her how much she wanted per shoot. Girl B dosent want nearly as much as girl A knows i'll pay. Because of this I get a model who is getting what she wants and it really comes through. She smiles, laughs, all that shit that matters. Plus, Girl B only asks for about 50% per shoot of what girl A knows i'll pay.

Because of this, I shoot girl B alot more then girl A, and get much better media.

To girl A, this is a job, and all I'm good for is the cash.

To girl B, this is a gift, and i'm a good guy for giving her what she wants.


Think about that before you run that list past any girl who is willing to model for you. What you might be willing to pay $400 for, she might be happy to do for $200 until you tell her you'll pay her $400

Hope I was of some assistance. Good luck in your project.

[digitaldivas]

See sig for my site, barefootsies.

Lol, most ff and ph sites are a bit bland. I don't see the mad rush like you do, I never really even have these sites wanting to promote themselves. I think that fetish sites have a much higher fail rate than regular model, lesbo, etc. sites. Fetish surfers are very particular and if there is no connect in the first 30 seconds or so, visiting a site, they are gone in the wind. I find it odd that for as many footjob sites there are, not that many serious footy's are into that.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

whatever you get away with is fair, as long as both parties agree prior to starting the job.
your rates appear in line with my experience and models will ALWAYS try to milk it.

I would mos def agree with that

[Big Red Machine]

Of course a girl will give it a whirl to get more money. Your paying more than fair prices for what you do.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

..............in my short personal experience of shooting pics and vids with girls I can tell you that you might want to think twice before you even let the girls know you have a price structure. That kinda shit you want to keep to yourself. Here's why:

You make me think of 2 girls in particular, we'll call em' girl A and girl B.

Girl A is an alright looking, but not great looking person. Bad attitude, and it shows in the pics or vids. Unfortunantly when I met girl A, I was just moronic enough to tell her what I would pay for what. After that, she expected that much every time we shot, wether the shoot was shit or not, and it usually was.

Girl B is an amazing specimen, 100% what I've been looking for. Because of girl A, I never told girl B how much I would pay. I just asked her how much she wanted per shoot. Girl B dosent want nearly as much as girl A knows i'll pay. Because of this I get a model who is getting what she wants and it really comes through. She smiles, laughs, all that shit that matters. Plus, Girl B only asks for about 50% per shoot of what girl A knows i'll pay.

Because of this, I shoot girl B alot more then girl A, and get much better media.

To girl A, this is a job, and all I'm good for is the cash.

To girl B, this is a gift, and i'm a good guy for giving her what she wants.


Think about that before you run that list past any girl who is willing to model for you. What you might be willing to pay $400 for, she might be happy to do for $200 until you tell her you'll pay her $400

Hope I was of some assistance. Good luck in your project.

You got it! That is very well said and I have known a dozen a's and b's since I have been doing this. The pricing structure is posted to the various model networking sites I am a part of, so they can go and see what I do and decide themselves whether or not they would be down to help out with my site. If I meet girls face to face, at a club, party, etc. I do approach it very differently.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by Big Red Machine

Of course a girl will give it a whirl to get more money. Your paying more than fair prices for what you do.

Thank you, I appreciate the advice.

[AnniKN]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

Girl B is an amazing specimen, 100% what I've been looking for. Because of girl A, I never told girl B how much I would pay. I just asked her how much she wanted per shoot. Girl B dosent want nearly as much as girl A knows i'll pay. Because of this I get a model who is getting what she wants and it really comes through. She smiles, laughs, all that shit that matters. Plus, Girl B only asks for about 50% per shoot of what girl A knows i'll pay.

While I understand what you mean and agree that not telling is actually good, I'd feel like shit paying Girl B only what she was asking for if I know I would and will pay more to other girls who aren't as good...

[rokstarz]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

..............in my short personal experience of shooting pics and vids with girls I can tell you that you might want to think twice before you even let the girls know you have a price structure. That kinda shit you want to keep to yourself. Here's why:

You make me think of 2 girls in particular, we'll call em' girl A and girl B.

Girl A is an alright looking, but not great looking person. Bad attitude, and it shows in the pics or vids. Unfortunantly when I met girl A, I was just moronic enough to tell her what I would pay for what. After that, she expected that much every time we shot, wether the shoot was shit or not, and it usually was.

Girl B is an amazing specimen, 100% what I've been looking for. Because of girl A, I never told girl B how much I would pay. I just asked her how much she wanted per shoot. Girl B dosent want nearly as much as girl A knows i'll pay. Because of this I get a model who is getting what she wants and it really comes through. She smiles, laughs, all that shit that matters. Plus, Girl B only asks for about 50% per shoot of what girl A knows i'll pay.

Because of this, I shoot girl B alot more then girl A, and get much better media.

To girl A, this is a job, and all I'm good for is the cash.

To girl B, this is a gift, and i'm a good guy for giving her what she wants.


Think about that before you run that list past any girl who is willing to model for you. What you might be willing to pay $400 for, she might be happy to do for $200 until you tell her you'll pay her $400

Hope I was of some assistance. Good luck in your project.

Girl B and Girl A will eventually become friends on myspace and your theory goes out the window. So shoot as much as you can with girl B prices before she discovers her "worth".

[JustDaveXxx]

I think you are getting good advice from people that know their foot fetish stuff. Good luck

[hypedough]

LOL barefootsies went from hostile to embracing quickly. I <3 you, you foot loving freak

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by AnniKN

While I understand what you mean and agree that not telling is actually good, I'd feel like shit paying Girl B only what she was asking for if I know I would and will pay more to other girls who aren't as good...

Damn, i'm really glad I came back here. I understand your point. However, I shoot B so much that she is cashing in way over anything that A could hope for. Also, I shoot girl B whenever she wants to shoot, no ifs ands or buts, and every few shoots, I throw her extra (bonus is what I call it).........Girl A dosent have it like B, and girl A is slowly being removed from any future plans I have, if she already hasn't seen to it herself with her bad attitude and her "you owe me everything" ideals.

Originally Posted by rokstarz

Girl B and Girl A will eventually become friends on myspace and your theory goes out the window. So shoot as much as you can with girl B prices before she discovers her "worth".

Like stated above, If girl B calls me at 9 in the morning wanting to shoot, i'm there by 9:30 camera and cash in hand. Girl A................nope. maybe next week.

As far as the myspace senario goes, or any other social networking site, shit happens, and I cant do anything about it if it does. I'm damn sure not going to sit around worrying about it though. I just want to make sure that if it should ive shot as much as I can before I have to start paying more.

[GetSCORECash]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

I want to keep my reputation as pristine as possible..

This isn't going to happen unless you do the following.

1) Pay your models more, when they ask for it.
2) Book them again and again, even if you don't need too.

Now you will be loved by every model.

Consider your niche, the Legs are all that matter, simply move on to the next model who will accept your rate. If they don't like it, simply be polite as you are, and tell them that's all you have in your budget.

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by AnniKN

While I understand what you mean and agree that not telling is actually good, I'd feel like shit paying Girl B only what she was asking for if I know I would and will pay more to other girls who aren't as good...

I neglected to mention that Girl A just so happens to be the first girl I ever shot. I was so excited to get my foot into the production door I would have bought her a car........This was because of my lack of experience, not because i'm a bad person.

However, you made such a good point, I had to quote you twice.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

I find it odd that for as many footjob sites there are, not that many serious footy's are into that.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by hypedough

LOL barefootsies went from hostile to embracing quickly. I <3 you, you foot loving freak

Love ya back.

In re-reading it, I see where it could be taken as hostile. I did not mean it that way. More like sarcasm. Which is typically how I talk on here, and in RL face-to-face.

But I had made some assumptions, based on the information or lack of, th O.P.. and I was in the wrong.

I am not too big to apologize.

[AnniKN]

Originally Posted by jmcb420

I neglected to mention that Girl A just so happens to be the first girl I ever shot. I was so excited to get my foot into the production door I would have bought her a car........This was because of my lack of experience, not because i'm a bad person.

However, you made such a good point, I had to quote you twice.

I am glad you cleared up the whole situation, that's much nicer We are barely starting in production, and your advice was an eye opener and an approach we'll take, even if I'll be very lame and probably give them bonuses all the time lol

We have been lucky enough to have all the A kind of girls not show up so those were deal breakers and our B girl knows the rates and is happy =)

ETA: Barefootsies is super cuddly indeed ^_^

[jmcb420]

Originally Posted by AnniKN

I am glad you cleared up the whole situation, that's much nicer We are barely starting in production, and your advice was an eye opener and an approach we'll take, even if I'll be very lame and probably give them bonuses all the time lol

We have been lucky enough to have all the A kind of girls not show up so those were deal breakers and our B girl knows the rates and is happy =)

I'm glad I did too, I dont want anyone thinking I'm a bad guy. Sometime's i'm just to clinical about things and leave out the small details that make a mountian of difference. The best advise that I can give is treat your girls like their ALL the best, and when you meet that type A girl, RUN AWAY VERY FAST. Sometimes in an attempt to work with those types you only screw yourself and take money out of the hands of the girls you know are the good ones.

Good luck to you in your project, BTW.

[AnniKN]

Thanks a lot!

[digitaldivas]

all good points, good luck as well. I do that Score-Cash, actually, most girls I shoot wind up being my friends. This biz is interesting like that. You get all types of stories, and women you have to direct all of the time and women that just go, they have that sensual energy and you just film the magic in progress. If your shooting video, eventually, most producers develop their own style. The way I shoot now and the way I was shooting 6 years ago is completely different. I think people evolve like that from their respective experiences.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

I have a pricing structure for talent for my foot fetish site, it is as follows

These pricing structures are designed for your personal comfort level.

150.00 photo/video 2 hour shoot non nude

200.00 photo/video 2.5 hour shoot non nude with 20 minute foot worship video

250.00 photo/video 3 hour shoot lingerie

300.00 photo/video 3.5 hour shoot lingerie with 20 minute foot worship video

350.00 photo/video 4 hour topless with 30 minute foot worship video

400.00 photo/video 4 hour nude with 30 minute foot worship video

500.00 photo/video 4 hour adult with 30 minute foot worship video,

DEFINITIONS:

NON NUDE-mini skirt , low cut top.

LINGERIE-to victoria secret type bra and t -bar type panties, they have to match, please.

TOPLESS-I shoot about 30-45 minutes of this content, it is of a suggestive nature, and prefer busty to request this type of shoot, please. My definition of busty is d cup or larger.

ADULT-Mistress, Femdom, lascivious shots, With Foot Adoration and Foot Worship

FOOT WORSHIP -Kissing and smelling womens feet... basically.

It would like to think that this is industry standard, but have been getting comments such as "well so and so paid me 1000.00 bucks for the same thing" etc.

I do understand name recognition and that sort of thing, and do compensate accordingly, but am I "off" in my general pricing for niche fetish?!?

Pay YOUR rates, don't worry about others. Also, look for NEW models and don't use the same ones everyone else has. Then you call the shots on who gets paid what.

[digitaldivas]

Thanks dirty white boy, much appreciated