WTF is GM thinking? - GoFuckYourself.com

Snake Doctor · 02-17-2009, 10:57 AM

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?G.M. will file what is expected to be the largest restructuring plan of its 100-year history on Tuesday.... and reduce its lineup of brands to just four, from eight, according to executives knowledgeable about its contents. The remaining core brands will be Chevrolet, Cadillac, GMC and Buick.?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/bu...l?ref=business

GMC, as far as I know, only makes trucks and suv's (I used to work at a dealership that carried GMC) and those trucks and suv's are identical to the ones chevrolet makes, save for the grille.

So why would they keep that brand along with chevrolet? They could cut back to 3 lines or keep one like Saturn.

DarkJedi · 02-17-2009, 11:04 AM

GM is shit.

They are losing sales to Hyundai LOL

ADL Colin · 02-17-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/bu...l?ref=business

GMC, as far as I know, only makes trucks and suv's (I used to work at a dealership that carried GMC) and those trucks and suv's are identical to the ones chevrolet makes, save for the grille.

So why would they keep that brand along with chevrolet? They could cut back to 3 lines or keep one like Saturn.

Saturn sales peaked in 1994/95. Many analysts think the Saturn line has never made a profit.

So which lines are being cut with the most sales and what are the closest competitors?

Snake Doctor · 02-17-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Saturn sales peaked in 1994/95. Many analysts think the Saturn line has never made a profit.

So which lines are being cut with the most sales and what are the closest competitors?

Ok well then they could only keep 3 lines. Obviously the buick/oldsmobile/pontiac etc lines can be whittled down to one...since they were all basically the same anyways.

It makes no sense IMO to keep GMC and Chevy if the point is to slim down. They make identical products.

tranza · 02-17-2009, 11:47 AM

Whatever...

02-17-2009, 11:50 AM

Why the hell would they keep Buick? I thought that one would have been on the chopping block for sure. Even Pontiac has some worthwhile vehicles with the G6 and G8, but Buick is just crap.

I can't even think of what cars Buick makes anymore other than that one ugly SUV that Tiger Woods was pimping for a few years.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-17-2009, 11:54 AM

So long as the Swedes take SAAB back, I don't give a shit.

LiveDose · 02-17-2009, 11:56 AM

A lot of their decisions up to this point have been poorly thought out. Why would you expect anything different now that they are under even more pressure...

MaDalton · 02-17-2009, 01:20 PM

right now they are killing their only moneymaker which is Opel in Germany. it's sad to see how amateurish a company of that size is handled

acctman · 02-17-2009, 01:25 PM

who buys american? american cars do not last long at all, always breaking down and needing repairs. its sad but true.

ADL Colin · 02-17-2009, 01:39 PM

I don't drive American cars myself but 25% of all cars purchased in the US are GM so people obviously do like the brands. They could definitely sell some of those off in order to shrink the company if they could renegotiate the labor contracts.

2007 top 3 GM brands by sales volume (for the record)
Chevrolet. 4.49 million sales
Opel/Vauxhall 1.69 million sales
GMC 619,000

ADL Colin · 02-17-2009, 01:43 PM

Lots of good data for US auto sales.
http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/pag...tml#autosalesE

acctman · 02-17-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

I don't drive American cars myself but 25% of all cars purchased in the US are GM so people obviously do like the brands. They could definitely sell some of those off in order to shrink the company if they could renegotiate the labor contracts.

2007 top 3 GM brands by sales volume (for the record)
Chevrolet. 4.49 million sales
Opel/Vauxhall 1.69 million sales
GMC 619,000

i would what percentage of the 25% is Gov't cars?

WhiplashDug · 02-17-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by acctman

who buys american? american cars do not last long at all, always breaking down and needing repairs. its sad but true.

I guess you don't own my American SUV's. I only buy Chevy Tahoe or Suburban. That's it!

I just sold a 99 Suburban with 275,000 miles on it. I have it from 195,000 to 275,000. It was runnig just as good at 275,000 as when i got it at 195,000. I replaced it with a 2004 Suburban and LOVE IT!

I also have a 97 Tahoe that I have had since 99. It has 187,000 miles on it. I have replaced the water pump & power steering pump for them just wearing out. I put in a high performance transmission because the original started to slip (at 145,000 miles) - but that's more because i take it off road all the time. I have beat on that Tahoe more than any normal person would and it runs perfectly.

Until things change... I will always buy GM trucks & SUV's! But i have a house full of kids, so I need SUV's.

MikeSmoke · 02-17-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

GM is shit.

They are losing sales to Hyundai LOL

When my wife needed a new car (big enough for a baby seat but not a mini-van), we looked at an Impala (which is what she thought she wanted) and a Hyundai - and we went with the Hyundai, it was an easy choice

MikeSmoke · 02-17-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by evildick

Why the hell would they keep Buick? I thought that one would have been on the chopping block for sure. Even Pontiac has some worthwhile vehicles with the G6 and G8, but Buick is just crap.

I can't even think of what cars Buick makes anymore other than that one ugly SUV that Tiger Woods was pimping for a few years.

They've wanted to chop Pontiac for a long time, they tried back in the late 90s, I think it was.

Sly · 02-17-2009, 02:08 PM

Doesn't GMC have some more "heavy duty" vehicles then Chevrolet?

potter · 02-17-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug

I also have a 97 Tahoe that I have had since 99.

I know what you're saying. But I had to read it a few times to finally get it.

dyna mo · 02-17-2009, 02:13 PM

if they are made on the same assembly line, why not keep gmc going? not being a smartass here, just asking. truck buyers are a loyal group, perhaps by keeping the marque, they can keep customers. it doesn't seem like they would save cash by discontinuing gmc

AlexVoyeur · 02-17-2009, 02:14 PM

I like saturn. They bring european models into the us... Buick is not our cup of tea, but it sells good and gives old people something to drive...

crockett · 02-17-2009, 02:22 PM

GMC does a lot of heavy truck stuff that the Chevy brand doesn't.. Think dump trucks and so on..

DK · 02-17-2009, 02:36 PM

The New Camaro will bail them out

02-17-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by acctman

who buys american? american cars do not last long at all, always breaking down and needing repairs. its sad but true.

That's a stereotype left over from the 80's and early 90's. there's nothing wrong with the quality of american vehicles today.

HorseShit · 02-17-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

So long as the Swedes take SAAB back, I don't give a shit.

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