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DarkJedi · 03-02-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

Truly fucking amazing, your lawyer told you to go and FUCK other people out of their money????

Isn't it what lawyers do?

ExtremeBank_Adam · 03-02-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I can't believe how many people are backing a guy who built his traffic on stolen content lol

Agreed... I saw some of our stuff on there.

count of monte cristo · 03-02-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Where's Steve at?
lightspeedcheerleaders.com

the second this was registered, you were knowingly infringing on the lightspeeds trademark

what do you have to say to that?

BV · 03-02-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

God you are pretty stupid BV. how is sextube and youtube similar? How would i have any case against them?

exactly!!

fris · 03-02-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

and yeah love the content on there,

http://www.hardsextube.com/video/118...Fashion.Gash--

guess nasty should ask why there video is up with no ads love you stolen tube backers fantastic, Shap can never win cause he is successful its too bad.

Shap funds stolen content sites, hes part of the problem as well.

Porn Producer · 03-02-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

Post bot? or error, how is Shap doing anything that i have complained about?

I am 100% in favor of going after trademarks. For any business it makes sense if you are running a business and don't trademark your property you will lose it, that happened to ddgirls.com Stephen Hicks didn't have the trademark and someone took his pay site that he had been running on that domain for years, he had to swap to digitaldesire.com, if he had trademarked it he wouldn't have had that problem.

Mike, just shut the fuck up.

No one is going to take any of your posts seriously because youre being paid to suck Shaps dick.

Brujah · 03-02-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

how is Shap doing anything that i have complained about?

He's registering names that contain trademarks belonging to other people, other sites typos, etc... The exact same thing you're railing against in your posts on this topic can be applied to Shap then.

http://darksidedata.com/twistys.txt

BV · 03-02-2009, 01:49 PM

In 1987, as a result of an infringement suit by Radio Shack, Auto Shack changed its name to AutoZone.

Ethersync · 03-02-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Right

It looks like you trademarked your names just so that you can take away all the other names from people.

Of course that is what they did. It really pisses me off to see large companies bully little guys like this. What they are doing is abusing the system. Comparing this to Pepsi protecting their TM is absurd.

roly · 03-02-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

Check Shaps trademark its pre youtube.com so maybe if you did some research instead of posting you would have known that.

youtube was filed january 2006 but sextube was filed in december 2006 unless i'm missing something?

mpahlca · 03-02-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Porn Producer

Mike, just shut the fuck up.

No one is going to take any of your posts seriously because youre being paid to suck Shaps dick.

Fantastic now i finally know that i must know you from somewhere lol, and its ok if they don't take them seriously i am ok with it, i just like to post sometimes, as I never seem to have a reason to otherwise.

cess · 03-02-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

and yeah love the content on there,

http://www.hardsextube.com/video/118...Fashion.Gash--

guess nasty should ask why there video is up with no ads love you stolen tube backers fantastic, Shap can never win cause he is successful its too bad.

Then sue them for copyright infringement. It's not like this is the only guy that's been threatened either, shap just said several sites got the letter.

JayDeeZee · 03-02-2009, 01:53 PM

I felt bad for the webmaster until I saw those 45 minute movies on his site.

BV · 03-02-2009, 01:53 PM

so Shap, you never really answered, did You register sextube.com before YouTube.com????

Matyko · 03-02-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I can't believe how many people are backing a guy who built his traffic on stolen content lol

you see, some just see that you're trying to "hijack" a tube site way more bigger and valuable than yours...

Btw it was so weak to use the stolen content card :P I suggest you to change your lawyer to a better one, like mine

mpahlca · 03-02-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by roly

youtube was filed january 2006 but sextube was filed in december 2006 unless i'm missing something?

I was referring to the actual registration date or active point:

youtube: Registration Date October 28, 2008
sextube: Registration Date December 11, 2007

Lamis · 03-02-2009, 01:55 PM

damn... this SHAP must be doing like 100k per month to have those protections..

but I think he needs to get a new lawyer, because his lawyer is totally wrong and has obsolete law knowledge. Shap, u need to keep up with new rules..

the days when you sat to play poker while sales came in, are long go...

MaDalton · 03-02-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

you see, some just see that you're trying to "hijack" a tube site way more bigger and valuable than yours...

Btw it was so weak to use the stolen content card :P I suggest you to change your lawyer to a better one, like mine

hehe - your lawyer rocks

fris · 03-02-2009, 01:56 PM

K i just registered 30 domains with sex and tube in them

mpahlca · 03-02-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

so Shap, you never really answered, did You register sextube.com before YouTube.com????

For your records:

youtube.com Created on..............: 2005-02-14
sextube.com Created on..............: 2004-10-31

BigRod · 03-02-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by count of monte cristo

but you send a bunch of intimidating letters with attorney letterhead, you will get some domains turned over

I don't think this is really true, I would say for most when they are new in the business they ignore these letters cause they are small and have nothing to loose, once they get larger and have something to loose their lawyers tell them to ignore these letters and they will handle it, either way I can't see intimidating letters really working?

mpahlca · 03-02-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

K i just registered 30 domains with sex and tube in them

sorry the trademark is for the term sextube as you should know if you looked it up.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 03-02-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I can't believe how many people are backing a guy who built his traffic on stolen content lol

Did you not use (and still do) heavily advertise on biggest tube sites, filled to the brim with stolen content? Should we pull the threads maybe?

Pot, kettle, and so on.

Roald · 03-02-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

so Shap, you never really answered, did You register sextube.com before YouTube.com????

Doesn't matter as the TM is sextube and not the word tube. So NO he can not sue youtube.

I can see anyone questioning the steps being taken but I can clearly understand what it is to protect a brand. THe thing is that the TM is rather vague I would say as in 2 general words. Thats the problem, but hey Shap if your lawyer says you can get it than I wouldn't care less.

It is a business we are in, why would you have sympathy for someone else really? I mean we are here in the first place to make yourself money not? If Shap would like to make friends and cuddle he would probably do so elsewhere. Don't get me wrong as much as I dislike some of the steps being taken I can perfectly see what is going on, and sometimes you just have to drop the being Mr nice Guy attitude I guess.

Ethersync · 03-02-2009, 02:02 PM

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...00&y=r&z=1&z=1

Someone has a much more successful tube site than you so instead of trying to compete fairly you just send your lawyers after the domain so you can just divert the traffic to your site...

BradM · 03-02-2009, 02:04 PM

Shap do you sell ads on your tubes? Not fucking around - I buy ads on tubes and profit greatly. Pornhub, keez, snizz, etc etc. Please let me know pricing.

mpahlca · 03-02-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Someone has a much more successful tube site than you so instead of trying to compete fairly you just send your lawyers after the domain so you can just divert the traffic to your site...

Have him shut it down for a month then and pass it over after, we don't need the traffic.

cess · 03-02-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Thats the problem, but hey Shap if your lawyer says you can get it than I wouldn't care less.

It is a business we are in, why would you have sympathy for someone else really?

You can sue someone for anything and send those letters out so of course his lawyer is saying it's ok to do.

There's nothing wrong with speaking out when you think someone else is getting fucked over or in this case I guess it would be a group of people.

cykoe6 · 03-02-2009, 02:10 PM

Personally I believe that this is bullshit but then that is the nature of business. If you can afford the legal costs then you can push people around. All part of the game.

Roald · 03-02-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cess

You can sue someone for anything and send those letters out so of course his lawyer is saying it's ok to do.

There's nothing wrong with speaking out when you think someone else is getting fucked over or in this case I guess it would be a group of people.

Ofcourse you can sue for anything but can you also win anything at all without a case? Lets see how this works out as I doubt Shap is just wasting a pile of cash on lawyers ;))

And I agree nothing wrong with speaking out, just like I just did I guess!

mpahlca · 03-02-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRod

I don't think this is really true, I would say for most when they are new in the business they ignore these letters cause they are small and have nothing to loose, once they get larger and have something to loose their lawyers tell them to ignore these letters and they will handle it, either way I can't see intimidating letters really working?

Its not intimidating letters its intent of legal proceedings Shap owns the trademark and he is actively pursuing anyone who is in violation of that.

Sands · 03-02-2009, 02:19 PM

TNAFlix.com has a ton of stolen content, and probably a ton of traffic along with it. You'd have to be pretty comfortable with copyright infringement of other content owners to advertise there.

cess · 03-02-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Ofcourse you can sue for anything but can you also win anything at all without a case? Lets see how this works out as I doubt Shap is just wasting a pile of cash on lawyers ;))

And I agree nothing wrong with speaking out, just like I just did I guess!

Lots of lawyers will give bad advice. Maybe his lawyer is just telling him to do it but has no real plans on suing or just doesn't care because it's not his money. And threatening to sue can make people cave in to your demands, a lot of people do it just for that reason.

Brad Mitchell · 03-02-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyandin

If someone buys a domain, it's theirs - period. If a company is not smart enough to buy all variants of their domain up, or names that appear similar, then it's on them.

The arguments to the contrary are mostly those of big companies trying to bully the little guys out of good domain names.

I say it again - If you go to a registrar and they sell you an available domain, then it's yours incontrovertibly. The big guys can then suck it up and pay the new owner for it if they want it so bad.

That's a stupid comment, especially coming from a host. Trademark is trademark.

Brad

Brujah · 03-02-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

Its not intimidating letters its intent of legal proceedings Shap owns the trademark and he is actively pursuing anyone who is in violation of that.

While at the same time infringing and owning trademark domains belonging to several others in the industry. Go get him mpahlca! Oh wait, you're just a paid poster. Nevermind.

mpahlca · 03-02-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sands

TNAFlix.com has a ton of stolen content, and probably a ton of traffic along with it. You'd have to be pretty comfortable with copyright infringement of other content owners to advertise there.

Just to make you feel better, we don't purchase ads there thats an affiliate account. Not a bought spot.

XPays · 03-02-2009, 02:23 PM

imo thesextube = infringing nice keyword+sex+tube = not infringing

mpahlca · 03-02-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

While at the same time infringing and owning trademark domains belonging to several others in the industry. Go get him mpahlca! Oh wait, you're just a paid poster. Nevermind.

Love the expired adult domains in your sig, and we have held domains for girls and companies if they ask for them most times we hand them over, or redirect to their sites on request. If you are in the domain business I am sure you have done this from time to time, and we own more domains than the ones listed.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 03-02-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sands

TNAFlix.com has a ton of stolen content, and probably a ton of traffic along with it. You'd have to be pretty comfortable with copyright infringement of other content owners to advertise there.

They advertise in most tube sites (with tons of stolen content).

Shap is a hypocrite and an asshole.

Korban · 03-02-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Where's Steve at?
lightspeedcheerleaders.com

Sands · 03-02-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

Just to make you feel better, we don't purchase ads there thats an affiliate account. Not a bought spot.

Sorry, it doesn't make me feel better, especially when I see an industry giant touting infringement this and infringement that, all the while profiting from infringement itself. It probably makes _you_ feel better though.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 03-02-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

Just to make you feel better, we don't purchase ads there thats an affiliate account. Not a bought spot.

Rogue affiliate.

Yes, we get it.

Brujah · 03-02-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

If you are in the domain business I am sure you have done this from time to time, and we own more domains than the ones listed.

I'm not suing anyone to steal their generic domain names. Don't lump everyone in the domain business in with what you're doing. Most would and do disagree with reverse domain hijacking.

Dennis69 · 03-02-2009, 02:30 PM

Personally I think Shap is getting to big for his boots... and that comment about the stolen content was BS and you know it, you don't mind the traffic from others people stolen content do you!!!

MaDalton · 03-02-2009, 02:32 PM

I'm going to register "Amazing Content" and then sue every other content seller who claims to have amazing content ;)))

DeanCapture · 03-02-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

I'm going to register "Amazing Content" and then sue every other content seller who claims to have amazing content ;)))

Oh shit...my bad

hdkiller · 03-02-2009, 02:34 PM

hardsextube is my trademark in hungary... also my domain is registered before your trade mark... you are a trademark troll..

V_RocKs · 03-02-2009, 02:34 PM

Hard Sex Tube is different enough a judge would let him keep it. Sex is a pretty open word. If it was a problem we would all have to stop using anything with sex.com in it... Like hardsex.com or indiansex.com. Hard is a distinct classification of a sex act. Just sucks that you have to hire a lawyer to keep a website with almost no traffic.

starpimps · 03-02-2009, 02:35 PM

so wait xtube TM go after sextube..

adding se to xtube is a nono

DarkJedi · 03-02-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

and we own more domains than the ones listed.

http://www.darksidedata.com/twistys2.txt

Yes, indeed you own more copyright infriging names.

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	In 1987, as a result of an infringement suit by Radio Shack, Auto Shack changed its name to AutoZone.

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	so Shap, you never really answered, did You register sextube.com before YouTube.com????

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Lamis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 961	damn... this SHAP must be doing like 100k per month to have those protections.. but I think he needs to get a new lawyer, because his lawyer is totally wrong and has obsolete law knowledge. Shap, u need to keep up with new rules.. the days when you sat to play poker while sales came in, are long go...

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Ethersync Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London, Saint-Tropez, Bermuda, Moscow Posts: 5,289	http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...00&y=r&z=1&z=1 Someone has a much more successful tube site than you so instead of trying to compete fairly you just send your lawyers after the domain so you can just divert the traffic to your site...

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Shap do you sell ads on your tubes? Not fucking around - I buy ads on tubes and profit greatly. Pornhub, keez, snizz, etc etc. Please let me know pricing.

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Sands Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 418194907 Posts: 3,134	TNAFlix.com has a ton of stolen content, and probably a ton of traffic along with it. You'd have to be pretty comfortable with copyright infringement of other content owners to advertise there.

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Hard Sex Tube is different enough a judge would let him keep it. Sex is a pretty open word. If it was a problem we would all have to stop using anything with sex.com in it... Like hardsex.com or indiansex.com. Hard is a distinct classification of a sex act. Just sucks that you have to hire a lawyer to keep a website with almost no traffic.

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starpimps Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: internets Posts: 6,954	so wait xtube TM go after sextube.. adding se to xtube is a nono