SEXTUBE inc denied trademark on "pornotube" - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

Shap · 03-04-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10

Cool so you made more money then all of us yesterday, yet you still feel the need to take shitty little domains/sites with the words gaytube & sextube in them. Are you just sooo baller that you dont want to steal traffic generated by these sites that just type in "sex tube" when looking for similar sites?

Every time someone builds another sextube or gaytube that that makes that many more surfers looking for these terms... terms that people have been searching for well before you put your sites together.

Are you simply afraid that by not enforcing your TM, someone will just take sextube.com? This would never happen, unless Google showed up, but Google can take just down about any internet company now if they feel like it.

I've been on gfy for over 3 years and managed barely over 700 posts, yet did 25-35 yesterday just because I own domains. You aren't trying to "steal" other peoples domains like SexTube, you are trying to "protect your interests". But both of these outcomes you want to be the same.

If you ever met me you'd know I'm not the type of guy to steal something from someone else. I built my empire from the ground up and I don't plan on changing that any time soon. I'm just looking to protect my entities.

Shap · 03-04-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10

You are facing no threats to gaytube or sextube. You keep behaving like there is some vast conspiracy to steal your domains Shap, yet it is YOU who is trying to steal our domains

Do you have any sextube domains? Is that why you are so worried?

arock10 · 03-04-2009, 05:29 PM

I'm just pissed I cant reg any tube domains with sex or gay in them.

Shap · 03-04-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10

I'm just pissed I cant reg any tube domains with sex or gay in them.

Email me. Let's discuss.

arock10 · 03-04-2009, 05:32 PM

Also, that is just the beginning... first sextube & gaytube... then whats next? The pornotube.com guys? the porntube guys? the freeporn.com guys? every freakin domain that isn't lksjdfs.com? Its the principle of what is happening I have a problem with, it sets a standard.

Just like the first cross sale is fine, the second cross sale is fine, and then some jack ass starts hiding xsales on joins forms... then guys just start running lists of CCs

Shap · 03-04-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10

Also, that is just the beginning... first sextube & gaytube... then whats next? The pornotube.com guys? the porntube guys? the freeporn.com guys? every freakin domain that isn't lksjdfs.com?

You have to expect anyone with a Trademark will look to enforce it. So check before you register a domain. If they have a trademark try to find out who they are and email them. At least you are doing your part to avoid any problems.

MetaMan · 03-04-2009, 05:33 PM

AlienQ 2.0?

Shap · 03-04-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10

Just like the first cross sale is fine, the second cross sale is fine, and then some jack ass starts hiding xsales on joins forms... then guys just start running lists of CCs

That's our industry. You always have to look out for yourself because no one else is.

DeanCapture · 03-04-2009, 05:36 PM

Shap my brotha' - you can't explain shit to people who don't want to listen and at least "try" to understand. The more successful you get, the more haters will come out of the woodwork to try and destroy you. Why? Because your relevant, because your successful and because they are jealous not to be in your shoes. Don't let them get to ya' man......that's what you used to say to me when my jealous haters would attack me over silly bullshit. So I'm tell'n ya....don't let them get to ya'. Turn off the computer and go play with your little boy and enjoy some of your success

By the way - I shot Ryan Keely for you today - the video is hot, hot fugg'n hot! It's going out tomorrow for Friday delivery!

arock10 · 03-04-2009, 05:44 PM

Once again, generic terms... I don't know how trademark offices work, but as google trends shows it was an accepted term for "porn videos" well before the trademark went through. But I'm off, 'night

spacedog · 03-04-2009, 05:50 PM

are they going after these too?

yousextube.com
firstsextube.com
enjoysextube.com
thesextubesite.com
naughtysextube.com
sextube-video.com
thefreesextube.com
asextube.com
homemadesextube.com
momsextube.com
newsextube.org
sextubedirectory.com
grannysextube.net
onesextube.com
maturesextube.net
flashsextube.com
hornysextube.com

There's thousands of registered domains and active websites with sextube in the url..

If this was about protecting a mark, why aren't they going after sextube.org? Maybe because it has no rank, serp, alexa or traffic?

What about sextube.biz ?

How about going after the tens of thousands of torrent pages with sextube as the pages title and meta description not to mention several thousands of scraper pages with sextube in it, or the millions of urls with sextube.com in the url such as somedomain.com/dir/dir/sextube or somedomain.com/dir/dir/sextube.com

GonZo · 03-05-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

what wasnt shap ? shap didnt reg sextube ?

I thought i made it very clear in the first post that the pornotube application and sextube inc were/are not shap.

The question was if it was merely coincidence that shap decided to trademark "sextube" 1 week after a company using the name sextube filed for an application for "pornotube"

Dont you find that a bit coincidental ?

Im not much for conspiracy theories.

crockett · 03-05-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I always used to wonder why 12clicks was an asshole to people on the board. In the past year with all the drama we've had it's become very apparent. He's an asshole because you are all insignificant and completely and utterly irrelevant. You don't even register on any of our radars. I've had 3 or 4 dramas where I was roasted like a pig on here. And you know what? I'm still making more than ever. I never lost any business. Why? Because you guys are nothing. Not a single person that attacks me on my threads ever did business with me. Then they post I'm pulling links. LOL pulling links from what? Half of you tools don't even have a registered domain. Pulling links from rapidshare? From imagehost? LOL Morons.

Typically people that stick to honest business practices tend to not be fucked with much. It's normally when people like your self or 12clicks do things that are shady and hence earn the "fucking with" they get.

Only "you" are to blame for what you are doing no one else. You seemed to keep things honest for several years and seemed like you made pretty good money doing it. Yet in this last year or you have turned to shit supporting illegal tubes sites and now trying to steal others websites.

I hope the extra money you have made is worth it, but that damn greed is a bitch isn't it?

stever · 03-05-2009, 10:12 AM

woah
the shap attack

SuzzyQ · 03-05-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Do you have any sextube domains? Is that why you are so worried?

I have 1 and Im not giving it up. I registered it before I knew Shap was on a quest to own every domain that contains sextube in them

TheDA · 03-05-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

If you ever met me you'd know I'm not the type of guy to steal something from someone else.

I'm sorry, I'm all for you protecting your TM but you can't say this when you have alternative billing options on your join pages.

mpahlca · 03-05-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

I'm sorry, I'm all for you protecting your TM but you can't say this when you have alternative billing options on your join pages.

Those are all tracked it just runs the cascade or to another biller that you get credit for, if you don't understand how NATS or billers work please send an email to support at toomuchmedia.com they can tell you that all billers we use are integrated just like any other nats client.

Penthouse Tony · 03-05-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

By the way - I shot Ryan Keely for you today - the video is hot, hot fugg'n hot! It's going out tomorrow for Friday delivery!

Ryan Keely is hot

TheDA · 03-05-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca

Those are all tracked it just runs the cascade or to another biller that you get credit for, if you don't understand how NATS or billers work please send an email to support at toomuchmedia.com they can tell you that all billers we use are integrated just like any other nats client.

Unless this has changed in the past 3-4 months please pass this on to your support reps. This was brought up with one of them some time back.

Are you saying that NATS tracks the GXPlugin telephone billing option and the 'snail mail' option now?

Shap · 03-05-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Unless this has changed in the past 3-4 months please pass this on to your support reps. This was brought up with one of them some time back.

Are you saying that NATS tracks the GXPlugin telephone billing option and the 'snail mail' option now?

Nats is tracking all gxbill sales.

Mail in accounts for <1% of sales. It is not accounted for.

TheDA · 03-05-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Nats is tracking all gxbill sales.

Mail in accounts for <1% of sales. It is not accounted for.

That's fair enough, GXBill I could see happening, I guess the support guy just never made it clear about GXBill stuff being tracked.

The mail in memberships I could never see happening and I reckon kicks it back to my original post.

It's a bold statement to make in one post about not being the type of guy to steal something from someone else and then say that you do take mail in memberships that an affiliate doesn't get credit for in another.

slavdogg · 03-05-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

If you ever met me you'd know I'm not the type of guy to steal something from someone else. I built my empire from the ground up and I don't plan on changing that any time soon. I'm just looking to protect my entities.

Shap, there is nothing wrong with protecting your marks and entities.
However when it comes to descriptive marks such as sextube and gaytube
You have decades of legal precedents working against you.
There is a ton of cases dealing with descriptive marks and owners trying to protect them.
And in every case the courts have said it nearly every time.
- "its your bad" that you chose common words for your brand.
- Its your bad that your brand consists of descriptive terms.
- AND they've consistently ruled that simply having a descriptive term as your TM or your brand DOES not automatically give you all the exclusive rights to that term.

and most importantly you need to prove beyond the shadow of doubt that somehow your descriptive marks have some how now acquired a secondary meaning and have become so distinctive that when one thinks of words "sex" and "tube" they think of your sites and not another site that depicts the acts of sex.

Hope this makes sense and saves you a ton of headaches and legal fees and your image as well.

ps. i'm not an attorney, i only play one on late night TV, lmk where to send an invoice for my legal advise.

03-04-2009, 05:29 PM	#103
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	I'm just pissed I cant reg any tube domains with sex or gay in them. __________________ Sup

03-04-2009, 05:32 PM	#105
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	Also, that is just the beginning... first sextube & gaytube... then whats next? The pornotube.com guys? the porntube guys? the freeporn.com guys? every freakin domain that isn't lksjdfs.com? Its the principle of what is happening I have a problem with, it sets a standard. Just like the first cross sale is fine, the second cross sale is fine, and then some jack ass starts hiding xsales on joins forms... then guys just start running lists of CCs __________________ Sup Last edited by arock10; 03-04-2009 at 05:33 PM..

03-04-2009, 05:36 PM	#109
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	Shap my brotha' - you can't explain shit to people who don't want to listen and at least "try" to understand. The more successful you get, the more haters will come out of the woodwork to try and destroy you. Why? Because your relevant, because your successful and because they are jealous not to be in your shoes. Don't let them get to ya' man......that's what you used to say to me when my jealous haters would attack me over silly bullshit. So I'm tell'n ya....don't let them get to ya'. Turn off the computer and go play with your little boy and enjoy some of your success By the way - I shot Ryan Keely for you today - the video is hot, hot fugg'n hot! It's going out tomorrow for Friday delivery! __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

03-04-2009, 05:44 PM	#110
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	Once again, generic terms... I don't know how trademark offices work, but as google trends shows it was an accepted term for "porn videos" well before the trademark went through. But I'm off, 'night __________________ Sup

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spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	are they going after these too? yousextube.com firstsextube.com enjoysextube.com thesextubesite.com naughtysextube.com sextube-video.com thefreesextube.com asextube.com homemadesextube.com momsextube.com newsextube.org sextubedirectory.com grannysextube.net onesextube.com maturesextube.net flashsextube.com hornysextube.com There's thousands of registered domains and active websites with sextube in the url.. If this was about protecting a mark, why aren't they going after sextube.org? Maybe because it has no rank, serp, alexa or traffic? What about sextube.biz ? How about going after the tens of thousands of torrent pages with sextube as the pages title and meta description not to mention several thousands of scraper pages with sextube in it, or the millions of urls with sextube.com in the url such as somedomain.com/dir/dir/sextube or somedomain.com/dir/dir/sextube.com Last edited by spacedog; 03-04-2009 at 05:54 PM..

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