This AIG "outrage" is a total smokescreen and bull **** - GoFuckYourself.com

sperbonzo · 03-20-2009, 08:14 AM

First of all, the Obama administration PUSHED for the bonus payment provision in the bailout package....

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/...ess/index.html

...and congress voted for it, and the president signed it.

NOW they want to claim that somehow the people working for AIG stole the money and slam a completely unfair tax on those people???

Second, Congress recently voted themselves an increase of their expense accounts from 1.2 million dollars a year to 1.6 million dollars a year.... and this in a time of massive recession and the government budget totally in the red. Every penny of that money is "bailout" (tax) money.

They want to talk about corporate greed and excess, and that no one should make more than $500k, but meanwhile they vote THEMSELVES 1.6 million a year expense accounts????

America needs to wake up. Congress is using this class warfare ruse as a way to get people to not look at what congress is doing.

Do you realize that they basically forced Bank of America to take bailout money, and are now asking for a list of B of A's top 200 bonus earners? This is crazy

Splum · 03-20-2009, 08:18 AM

These people dont care, they are in bed with Obama

PornMD · 03-20-2009, 08:22 AM

Reactionary politics - see what people will react to and then react to their reaction. That's where flipflopping comes from in the first place. "I'm for THIS" *BOOOOOO* "Oops, I was mistaken, I'm for THAT."

The AIG execs didn't deserve a bonus or at least that much of it to begin with, but certainly how it was all laid out is shitty on all sides. Unfortunately this administration is simply dawdling around (or should I say Doddling? :P)...making absolutely no beneficial difference so far to anyone except maybe themselves and their rich buddies, with Obama already breaking a shitload of his promises.

sperbonzo · 03-20-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

with Obama already breaking a shitload of his promises.

Watch this speech... EVERY SINGLE PROMISE THAT HE MAKES IN THE SPEECH HE HAS ALREADY BROKEN....

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU

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IllTestYourGirls · 03-20-2009, 08:51 AM

It is a smoke screen for the 1 TRILLION in bonds the FED bought. We are FUCKED

sperbonzo · 03-20-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by illtestyourgirls

it is a smoke screen for the 1 trillion in bonds the fed bought. We are fucked

exactly

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Splum · 03-20-2009, 09:01 AM

This shit is gonna hit most of you like a train, too bad you refused to listen to the horn.

gornyhuy · 03-20-2009, 10:47 AM

Ancient Chinese Curse:
May you live in interesting times.

sperbonzo · 03-20-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

This shit is gonna hit most of you like a train, too bad you refused to listen to the horn.

....and unfortunately, "I told ya so"'s aren't going to fix anything at that point.

BradM · 03-20-2009, 02:35 PM

Most of the time I think you're a nut, but in this case you are just correct. There's no real way to argue it - you just are right.

$5 submissions · 03-20-2009, 02:37 PM

Fuck the AIG fiasco... look at what's around the corner: Hyperinflation.

If anyone cares, the real reason Keynesian economics fell out of favor by the 1980s is because of the nasty inflation/stagflation it causes.

D Ghost · 03-20-2009, 02:39 PM

At least we have some people who arent easily fooled

sperbonzo · 03-20-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Most of the time I think you're a nut,.

ahhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!

That's the NICEST thing you've ever said to me Brad!

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qxm · 03-20-2009, 02:52 PM

K here is my POV ... love it or hate it:

1. YES, the AIG bonus thing is stupid compared to all the shit that is going on at the same time such as the fact that we are bailing banks TWICE ...first through bailouts and then AIG pays them their insurance monies .... and those AINT millions those are BILLIONS.... that money is also being used to bail out banks overseas which is even more fucked up.. and those overseas institutions are getting a bigger stake on the monies AIG has to pay....we are fucking bailing out the world....

2. While I don't like the fact that the govt may be wanting to break legal contracts and may want to act as a socialistic govt... we have to remember... these are AIG's "TOP TALENT" we are talking about... yeah the same talent that was paid millions to stay working for AIG but took the money and ran away instead .. .the TALENT that was paid to take down one of the biggest companies in America and almost took down the entire financial system with it..... I mean who the fuck leverages investments at a 30:1 ratio.. looses a shitload of money and expects to get away with a "bonus" ... where is the fucking PERFORMANCE to back that up?

SO ..NO I DON'T like govt fucking around with legal contracts but if you FUCK AMERICAS FINANCIAL SYSTEM in the ass you should NOT be allowed to get away with bonuses....

3. Everyone who is focused on these bonues should act now about it .. punish those bastards AND THEN move on to more important matters such as the management and allocation of the BILLIONS that are at stake....

K gotta go and have something to eat but .. ILL BE BACK!....

pornguy · 03-20-2009, 02:55 PM

What I see is history about to repeat it's self. more or less. We are about to see another class war. Only this time it wont last as long because there are far far more poor and the " RICH " dont have enough to hire the army's to defend them.

Bill8 · 03-20-2009, 02:57 PM

Funny how the republicans in congress are falling over themselves to get on board the bullshit train.

Anybody who didn't realize long ago that congress and the media are a bunch of whores is an idiot.

Of course it's bullshit - it's the top of the hour main feature on the corporate news.

Fletch XXX · 03-20-2009, 02:58 PM

cali is about to make way more than 165 mil when they legalize marijuana, these "bonuses" are chilsplay when it comes to how we could really fix the economic issues facing this country. Lets start with the War on Drugs and the money wasted jailing people for pot. As California top cash crop, the amount rhy are making now on taxed pot is making them hungry for more. Bravo.

165 mil? thats nothing compared to the amount wasted every year on marijuana eradication programs.

legalize and tax it.

James124 · 03-20-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Watch this speech... EVERY SINGLE PROMISE THAT HE MAKES IN THE SPEECH HE HAS ALREADY BROKEN....

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU
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Obama has lied more now than bush did in his entire presidency.

cykoe6 · 03-20-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

cali is about to make way more than 165 mil when they legalize marijuana, these "bonuses" are chilsplay when it comes to how we could really fix the economic issues facing this country. Lets start with the War on Drugs and the money wasted jailing people for pot. As California top cash crop, the amount rhy are making now on taxed pot is making them hungry for more. Bravo.

165 mil? thats nothing compared to the amount wasted every year on marijuana eradication programs.

legalize and tax it.

Very good points.

cykoe6 · 03-20-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by James124

Obama has lied more now than bush did in his entire presidency.

Yea lying seems to be the only thing that Obama does well.

onwebcam · 03-20-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

cali is about to make way more than 165 mil when they legalize marijuana, these "bonuses" are chilsplay when it comes to how we could really fix the economic issues facing this country. Lets start with the War on Drugs and the money wasted jailing people for pot. As California top cash crop, the amount rhy are making now on taxed pot is making them hungry for more. Bravo.

165 mil? thats nothing compared to the amount wasted every year on marijuana eradication programs.

legalize and tax it.

Fuck taxing every goddamn thing under the damn sun. What we need is less people sitting around trying to figure out how to tax every fucking thing. WHo in their right fucking mind thinks it's a good idea to give these dumbasses more money to spend is a good idea? A fucking pack of cigarettes went up $.70 this month here and going up another $1 next month.

shimmy · 03-20-2009, 04:51 PM

Everyone in congress should make more , they should make a lot more. That way more intelligent people would apply for the job. No good business person could want to be a congressman now because the pay is to low.

DaddyHalbucks · 03-21-2009, 11:42 AM

While CNN gripes about AIG, Obama is looting the treasury for TRILLIONS.

seeandsee · 03-21-2009, 11:45 AM

bring em all to the justice

cykoe6 · 03-21-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

bring em all to the justice

You mean Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and Barack Obama? I agree wholeheartedly.

Penthouse Tony · 03-21-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy

Everyone in congress should make more , they should make a lot more. That way more intelligent people would apply for the job. No good business person could want to be a congressman now because the pay is to low.

We shouldn't encourage people to make a career out of it. They longer they stay in DC the more out of touch and corrupt they become.

03-20-2009, 08:14 AM	#1
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,743	This AIG "outrage" is a total smokescreen and bull **** First of all, the Obama administration PUSHED for the bonus payment provision in the bailout package.... http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/...ess/index.html ...and congress voted for it, and the president signed it. NOW they want to claim that somehow the people working for AIG stole the money and slam a completely unfair tax on those people??? Second, Congress recently voted themselves an increase of their expense accounts from 1.2 million dollars a year to 1.6 million dollars a year.... and this in a time of massive recession and the government budget totally in the red. Every penny of that money is "bailout" (tax) money. They want to talk about corporate greed and excess, and that no one should make more than $500k, but meanwhile they vote THEMSELVES 1.6 million a year expense accounts???? America needs to wake up. Congress is using this class warfare ruse as a way to get people to not look at what congress is doing. Do you realize that they basically forced Bank of America to take bailout money, and are now asking for a list of B of A's top 200 bonus earners? This is crazy __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

03-20-2009, 08:22 AM	#3
PornMD Mainstream Businessman Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 9,291	Reactionary politics - see what people will react to and then react to their reaction. That's where flipflopping comes from in the first place. "I'm for THIS" BOOOOOO "Oops, I was mistaken, I'm for THAT." The AIG execs didn't deserve a bonus or at least that much of it to begin with, but certainly how it was all laid out is shitty on all sides. Unfortunately this administration is simply dawdling around (or should I say Doddling? :P)...making absolutely no beneficial difference so far to anyone except maybe themselves and their rich buddies, with Obama already breaking a shitload of his promises. __________________ Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.

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03-20-2009, 02:52 PM	#14
qxm Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NoHo Posts: 5,970	K here is my POV ... love it or hate it: 1. YES, the AIG bonus thing is stupid compared to all the shit that is going on at the same time such as the fact that we are bailing banks TWICE ...first through bailouts and then AIG pays them their insurance monies .... and those AINT millions those are BILLIONS.... that money is also being used to bail out banks overseas which is even more fucked up.. and those overseas institutions are getting a bigger stake on the monies AIG has to pay....we are fucking bailing out the world.... 2. While I don't like the fact that the govt may be wanting to break legal contracts and may want to act as a socialistic govt... we have to remember... these are AIG's "TOP TALENT" we are talking about... yeah the same talent that was paid millions to stay working for AIG but took the money and ran away instead .. .the TALENT that was paid to take down one of the biggest companies in America and almost took down the entire financial system with it..... I mean who the fuck leverages investments at a 30:1 ratio.. looses a shitload of money and expects to get away with a "bonus" ... where is the fucking PERFORMANCE to back that up? SO ..NO I DON'T like govt fucking around with legal contracts but if you FUCK AMERICAS FINANCIAL SYSTEM in the ass you should NOT be allowed to get away with bonuses.... 3. Everyone who is focused on these bonues should act now about it .. punish those bastards AND THEN move on to more important matters such as the management and allocation of the BILLIONS that are at stake.... K gotta go and have something to eat but .. ILL BE BACK!.... __________________ ICQ: 266990876 Last edited by qxm; 03-20-2009 at 02:54 PM..

03-20-2009, 02:55 PM	#15
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03-20-2009, 02:57 PM	#16
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	Funny how the republicans in congress are falling over themselves to get on board the bullshit train. Anybody who didn't realize long ago that congress and the media are a bunch of whores is an idiot. Of course it's bullshit - it's the top of the hour main feature on the corporate news.

03-20-2009, 02:58 PM	#17
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	cali is about to make way more than 165 mil when they legalize marijuana, these "bonuses" are chilsplay when it comes to how we could really fix the economic issues facing this country. Lets start with the War on Drugs and the money wasted jailing people for pot. As California top cash crop, the amount rhy are making now on taxed pot is making them hungry for more. Bravo. 165 mil? thats nothing compared to the amount wasted every year on marijuana eradication programs. legalize and tax it. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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