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XBIZ_Ariana · 04-14-2009, 12:42 PM

XBIZ NEWS: XBIZ Served With Lawsuit From Rival AVN

Adult Video News has filed suit against XBIZ, claiming it misappropriated trade secrets when it hired a former AVN sales executive.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/107165

Barefootsies · 04-14-2009, 12:44 PM

Madness yo.

Daddy Big Nuts · 04-14-2009, 12:46 PM

Just passing through......

Ozarkz · 04-14-2009, 12:46 PM

Oh snap.

JD · 04-14-2009, 12:48 PM

thats how you can tell it's def tough times... people start really suing the shit out anyone they can :/

XPays · 04-14-2009, 12:48 PM

everyone says non-compete's don't hold up for shit in court, so let's see what happens.

KittyLix · 04-14-2009, 12:49 PM

oh noes .....

notime · 04-14-2009, 12:50 PM

that's not nice

Carmine Raguso · 04-14-2009, 12:51 PM

I've trying to cancel my subscription to AVN for months now. I don't need their black plastic garbage bag wrapped pile of advertisements every month. It's usueless IMO. I should file a law suit against them for SPAMMING my PO Box

hypedough · 04-14-2009, 12:52 PM

That's fucking bullshit. Not making enough money on ads so now this? Seriously AVN, I love you guys but WTF?

Splum · 04-14-2009, 12:54 PM

Who cares, both you motherfuckers are irrelevant anyways.

Persius · 04-14-2009, 12:54 PM

wow....hmmm

Roald · 04-14-2009, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays

everyone says non-compete's don't hold up for shit in court, so let's see what happens.

exactly, lets see how this turns out as I have been wondering this myself for a while now.

chemicaleyes · 04-14-2009, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy Big Nuts

Just passing through......

Dwreck · 04-14-2009, 01:00 PM

I never expected this wow very bold and aggressive move. I wonder how it will play out.

alexchechs · 04-14-2009, 01:01 PM

This is just ridiculous....

JustDaveXxx · 04-14-2009, 01:02 PM

Ouch! Win or loose, getting sued sux!!!

WiredGuy · 04-14-2009, 01:08 PM

I realize XBiz/AVN may not want to comment on this, but who is Sara Sazzman? What was her role at AVN and what was she hired to do at XBiz?
WG

Abbie · 04-14-2009, 01:09 PM

yeah non-competes pretty much are useless in this industry

this tidbit was cited by a Judge in my case:

http://www.georgetownlawjournal.org/...den%5B1%5D.pdf

kmanrox · 04-14-2009, 01:10 PM

i make misappropriate comments to ppl all the time! grrr

MaDalton · 04-14-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

exactly, lets see how this turns out as I have been wondering this myself for a while now.

Looking for a new job???

Adam X · 04-14-2009, 01:13 PM

frivolous lawsuit... against such a close company... sucks..

The Adult Broker · 04-14-2009, 01:13 PM

interesting how frequently these days people are calling others out about stealing and taking ideas. Unless I am mistaken, the industry has always had this Achilles heel to a degree-unfortunately just seems more overt these days be it true or not.

Has it ever happened to you?

Where for art thou band of porn brothers

This is the time more than ever for the industry to work together.

good luck to both parties whom I've worked with for a long time.

scuba steve · 04-14-2009, 01:20 PM

everyone getting sued lately

LAJ · 04-14-2009, 01:24 PM

Sara was in sales for AVN.

May the best man win here ;)

Vicious_B · 04-14-2009, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays

everyone says non-compete's don't hold up for shit in court, so let's see what happens.

Doesn't whether the person quit or got let go make a difference also?

RyuLion · 04-14-2009, 01:26 PM

Oh wow, this sucks..

JFK · 04-14-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scuba steve

everyone getting sued lately

sign of the times ?

Honez · 04-14-2009, 01:29 PM

Dayum. Can't we all just get along?

the.drunk · 04-14-2009, 01:29 PM

this is suprise

Meeper · 04-14-2009, 01:30 PM

Cant we all just get along?

Ava Knight · 04-14-2009, 01:37 PM

If there is in fact a non-compete clause in her prior contract, wouldn't it better serve your defense to not advertise yourself as a "rival" ?

Tom_PM · 04-14-2009, 01:39 PM

sigh, why cant all fights be princess leia slave-girl pillow fights?

_Richard_ · 04-14-2009, 01:40 PM

hope everything gets rectified quickly

_Richard_ · 04-14-2009, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

sigh, why cant all fights be princess leia slave-girl pillow fights?

thanks for the pic

tiger · 04-14-2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

thats how you can tell it's def tough times... people start really suing the shit out anyone they can :/

Seems to be a growing trend.

vod · 04-14-2009, 01:43 PM

Good news for the press lol

was this a press stunt?

will XBiz sue AVN next lol

Connor · 04-14-2009, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAJ

Sara was in sales for AVN.

May the best man win here ;)

Close to eight years at AVN, I believe, and pretty high up in the company, which probably means she has a LOT of information about its inner workings, etc.

I don't know any specifics about this lawsuit, but I do have a pretty good sense of how I'd feel if someone with detailed information about the inner workings of my company went to an aggressive direct competitor.

I don't know if this deals w/ a non-compete or other, and I'm guessing here, but I'd think that a sales person would be in position to try and bring clients from one company to another. Not sure if that's alleged or not, since AVN isn't the one who went public, but if it is, it's possible that this goes beyond just non-competes.

This is going to be interesting.

HorseShit · 04-14-2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor

Close to eight years at AVN, I believe, and pretty high up in the company, which probably means she has a LOT of information about its inner workings, etc.

I don't know any specifics about this lawsuit, but I do have a pretty good sense of how I'd feel if someone with detailed information about the inner workings of my company went to an aggressive direct competitor.

I don't know if this deals w/ a non-compete or other, and I'm guessing here, but I'd think that a sales person would be in position to try and bring clients from one company to another. Not sure if that's alleged or not, since AVN isn't the one who went public, but if it is, it's possible that this goes beyond just non-competes.

This is going to be interesting.

jimbowski · 04-14-2009, 03:00 PM

Looks like the AVN ship is sinking.

webair · 04-14-2009, 03:07 PM

can't we all just get along!

ThumbLord · 04-14-2009, 03:09 PM

very interesting since she was working a long time for AVN.

baddog · 04-14-2009, 03:12 PM

This could get very interesting for sure.

TheAmericanCannibal · 04-14-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webair

can't we all just get along!

Hey Mike

Did u get my email?

:-)

Just Mike · 04-14-2009, 03:25 PM

This is outrageous!

I love Monty, and Chris but lets be real...To me, AVN looks like a "Douche" for doing this.

This whole industry has people floating from one company to another and doing the same or similar jobs all the time. How can AVN be so petty as to file a lawsuit like this in a industry like ours that is so small and tight knit?

Talk about burning bridges...geez!

As a company owner I think it's a joke to expect one of your sales people not to go somewhere else if you can't pay them competitively or the work environment is not constructive.

In my opinion, this girl has no trade secrets because after working in this biz for even a month you get to know who's who and what's what. There are no big secrets anymore and since Cali is a "right to work" state...I doubt very much this is anything more then a scare tactic.

I'm just venting cause I can't believe what I'm reading.

Voodoo · 04-14-2009, 03:29 PM

I wonder who will have the thicker magazine when this is over with?

Don Pueblo · 04-14-2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexentertain_mike

This is outrageous!

I love Monty, and Chris but lets be real...To me, AVN looks like a "Douche" for doing this.

This whole industry has people floating from one company to another and doing the same or similar jobs all the time. How can AVN be so petty as to file a lawsuit like this in a industry like ours that is so small and tight knit?

Talk about burning bridges...geez!

As a company owner I think it's a joke to expect one of your sales people not to go somewhere else if you can't pay them competitively or the work environment is not constructive.

In my opinion, this girl has no trade secrets because after working in this biz for even a month you get to know who's who and what's what. There are no big secrets anymore and since Cali is a "right to work" state...I doubt very much this is anything more then a scare tactic.

I'm just venting cause I can't believe what I'm reading.

AVN is on borrowed time.

Just_Dave · 04-14-2009, 03:43 PM

this is going to get real interesting

JFK · 04-14-2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexentertain_mike

This is outrageous!

I love Monty, and Chris but lets be real...To me, AVN looks like a "Douche" for doing this.

This whole industry has people floating from one company to another and doing the same or similar jobs all the time. How can AVN be so petty as to file a lawsuit like this in a industry like ours that is so small and tight knit?

Talk about burning bridges...geez!

As a company owner I think it's a joke to expect one of your sales people not to go somewhere else if you can't pay them competitively or the work environment is not constructive.

In my opinion, this girl has no trade secrets because after working in this biz for even a month you get to know who's who and what's what. There are no big secrets anymore and since Cali is a "right to work" state...I doubt very much this is anything more then a scare tactic.

I'm just venting cause I can't believe what I'm reading.

very interesting observation

BAKO · 04-14-2009, 04:20 PM

Things that make you go hmmmmm....

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