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Old 04-23-2009, 08:16 AM   #51
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Just become a behavior is less common doesn't mean it's unnatural. It's through these kind of things happening that adaptation occurs. Same-sex relationships between animals were around LONG before the institution of marriage. It's a little odd to think that something that's been around before recorded history gets trumped by something that came essentially recently and is entirely a construct of religion and politics?
you are the one defining "natural" and "unnatural" to suit an argument.

two headed sheep were around before marriage as well. that doesn't mean that society should be doing everything possible to assist two headed sheep in increasing their survival rates when ultimately, two headed sheep pass along negative genetic traits which have a long term negative effect on the survival rates of sheep.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:20 AM   #52
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There's as many fucked up nuclear families as there are single-parent ones. A family is what you make it, and people don't always get to choose. Who made you god or the president or whatever to make you feel that your ideals should be the ones everyone lives by? We all do the best we can to live life every day, we roll with the punches and do what we must. Nobody's ideals for society can fit every situation, and it's narrow-minded and silly to believe that a one-solution-fits-all ideal is really something possible, viable, or even logical.
of course there are always exceptions to any rule. that doesn't mean that its a healthy thing for society as a whole to start making the exceptions the rule.

i personally have no stake in the argument and could care less if gay people get married or if gay marriage is outlawed. i am simply voicing my opinion and suggest that from an anthropological standpoint, there is a greater benefit to a society in strengthening and reinforcing the concept of a strong nuclear family than not.

life is not fair. the constitution or laws of man cannot make life fair. sometimes you get selected by nature to be the one who has to take one for the team (and sometimes from the top or bottom).
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:43 AM   #53
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porn has nothing to do with a traditional nuclear family, other than the fact that 1/2 the girls in porn have major psychological issues and there was a breakdown there at some point. i meant "values" in the sense of respecting the need for an in tact family, two loving parents committed to parenting their children and being the best example to their children that they can be which is what children tend to pattern their future lives and relationships after.
So as long as they have a penis and a vagina for parents, which they can call "mom and dad", what they do for a living does not have anything to do with their Values?

are you serious?
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:50 AM   #54
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So as long as they have a penis and a vagina for parents, which they can call "mom and dad", what they do for a living does not have anything to do with their Values?

are you serious?
i didn't anything like that.

seriously, tighten your helmet strap and up your medication.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:51 AM   #55
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i oppose gay marriage with the same ferocity that i oppose straight marriage.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:54 AM   #56
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I wonder how many of the no votes came from gay people.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:55 AM   #57
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:56 AM   #58
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Married people used to pay a tax penalty in the united states until it was changed. Kinda like how the pledge of allegience never had "under god" in the original.
Just tidbits, cuz I got nothin.
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seems to give a lot of pleasure

to have that, you must pay

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Old 04-23-2009, 09:44 AM   #62
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Married people used to pay a tax penalty in the united states until it was changed. Kinda like how the pledge of allegience never had "under god" in the original.
Just tidbits, cuz I got nothin.
I did mine and my boyfriend's taxes individually this year. Then, out of curiosity, I calculated what our returns would be if we were married. Surprise! We would have gotten far less money back as a married couple than we did as single.

Marriage blows.
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I did mine and my boyfriend's taxes individually this year. Then, out of curiosity, I calculated what our returns would be if we were married. Surprise! We would have gotten far less money back as a married couple than we did as single.

Marriage blows.
You get money BACK? Omg.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:53 AM   #64
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I find no reasons to interfere in the decision of two people that want to get married, no matter what they are. If they want to spend the rest of their lives together, who I am to say "no, that´s no good". ?
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i really don't care - if they want to marry they have my blessing

i would even grant them the same rights regarding taxes, adoption etc. as heterosexual couples.

but: i would also grant the same rigths to couples who do not want to get legally married but live together for 10 or 20 years
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Between 2 kids and a mortgage, yup. But I don't own a business anymore so they're taking money out of my paycheck all year long.
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I can't believe that anyone on this thread is treating gay marriage as a polar opposite to "supporting traditional family values". Do you know what would support traditional family values, forcing teenagers onto birth control so they don't get knocked up before they're old enough to drink and end up as a single parent or in a dysfunctional marriage. What the hell do gay people have to do with whether or not straight people form good marriages. How do you erode the traditional nuclear family by letting gay people emulate it? That would appear to reinforce the traditional nuclear family. You definitely don't want to encourage gay people to marry the opposite gender, that's like creating families that are doomed to fail.
I am an American. "Pursuit of happiness" is in the rules somewhere. Gay marriage is just consistent with American values.
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why not?

it's not your business, so why would you meddle into it?

and this thread does not sound like one from an adult board. very disappointed hearing a bunch of nerds commenting like 12 year old kids.
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plenty of pro gay on here woo hoo oh snap you go girl! switch it hahahaha
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Gay marriage is ok i guess (freedom of choice) .. gay couple to have a kid is big NO. I think that they go to far with their right about convincing us gay couple to adopt a kid

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Gay marriage is ok i guess (freedom of choice) .. gay couple to have a kid is big NO. I think that they go to far with their right about convincing us gay couple to adopt a kid
Why is it a big no?
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:53 PM   #76
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We had this same debate decades ago with the same type of issue, it was called interracial marriage.
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Gay marriage is ok i guess (freedom of choice) .. gay couple to have a kid is big NO. I think that they go to far with their right about convincing us gay couple to adopt a kid
do you realize how many shitty heterosexual people with kids are out there?
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Fuck no I dont support faggots.

Its unnatural. A man should mate with a woman to create offspring.

Do you see two male dogs fucking eachother?

It goes against nature.

Disgusting faggots.
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do you realize how many shitty heterosexual people with kids are out there?

classic response from those who support them.. are you educated to use this phrase when defending homos?
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I thought I would vote undecided and be different..
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Do you see two male dogs fucking eachother?

It goes against nature.

really, the truth is this is against the nature and we should have had medicine for this to cure it.. not giving them rights to support it.. we dont give rights to pedophiles as well
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Do you see two male dogs fucking eachother?
Uhm, actually yes. You do see that.



And a man should have sex to produce offspring?? Well, so much for porn. Close up shop folks. Sex is only for reproduction!
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I dont see how it makes a difference to the average person. It wont effect you unless it is your son..
So yes i support gay marriage
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Uhm, actually yes. You do see that.



And a man should have sex to produce offspring?? Well, so much for porn. Close up shop folks. Sex is only for reproduction!
We were put on this earth to reproduce.

Now tell me. How the fuck are we supposed to reproduce with two cock suckers?

Fag.
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Yes, I support gay marriage.


I don't see how the "nuclear" or natural family being departed from will hurt anything in America's values. So many people who are 45+ can tell you stories of seeing their fathers/mothers abuse one another... and then stay together, stay married. If only divorce or departure would've been a norm for families a long time ago.. I don't think you'd see the popping up psychological disorders in the baby boomer age group like you do.


In other cultures where marriage is sacred... you almost always have the female being ultimately submissive to the male... The birth of women's lib... and the evolution of women no longer wanting to be stuck in roles where they're not happy.. I believe has turned the world into a more evolved, happier place.

I think that any time you're allowing a culture to seek out happiness in the heart.. that the culture becomes more evolved and advanced. More happy peopple = happier culture.

I see absolutely ZERO reason as to why gay couples can't marry or adopt. I see zero issues with it..
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We were put on this earth to reproduce.

Now tell me. How the fuck are we supposed to reproduce with two cock suckers?

Fag.
What about men and women who are sterile?
They shouldn't marry?
They're defects?
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classic response from those who support them.. are you educated to use this phrase when defending homos?
classic response from someone who is too stupid for an own opinion
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What about men and women who are sterile?
They shouldn't marry?
They're defects?
they haven't really thought this through..

the point about interracial marriage is a very good one, thanks.
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We were put on this earth to reproduce.

Now tell me. How the fuck are we supposed to reproduce with two cock suckers?

Fag.
so you're saying i'll live forever if i don't reproduce?
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I have my own opinion skinhead, just read above
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ahh, indeed, i had to translate it from engrish first

but actually it just confirms my opinion i already had from the other post about you.

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ahh, indeed, i had to translate it from engrish first

but actually it just confirms my opinion i already had from the other post about you.

cheers

ah alright, homo asslicker
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I'm not telling about being a good parent, their sexual way of thinking can affect also the kid.
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did you grow up with gay parents and find yourself gay or something? maybe straight?

if not.. maybe you should leave the 'facts' for people with them
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