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Old 05-08-2009, 10:37 AM   #51
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:39 AM   #52
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Old 05-09-2009, 03:47 PM   #53
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Click on that link in the first post again and have a GOOD look at the picture and see how VAST space is. Nearest possible planets with ANY kind of life form are lightyears away...

How big is the chance there's a planet close enough to have life that has propulsion that's fast enough to come visit us here and then NOT contact us
A scientifically advanced alien civilization already would have figured out how to bend space and time to suit their own purposes. Therefore, no worrying about distance or how many lightyears away something is...

Human scientists are just beginning to realize the potential of this capability of the time-space continuum and therefore the primitive view of travel which you propose will hence become obsolete several centuries from now.

As for an advanced alien civilization visiting earth, do you really think they would want to contact a civilization that is in such a fucked-up state as we are? The first thing we would probably want to do is try to blow 'em out of the sky or experiment on them. Imagine the conversation:

Alien 1:"Let's go fuck around with the humans!"

Alien 2: "Those retards? Last time we sent a perfect prototype of their species over to Earth they tortured it and nailed it to a cross. Then they ended up...
- worshiping the fucker (when we took the prototype back 3 days later)
- writing a bunch of 'holy' manuals in an attempt to tell the story
- then to this day they fight over which version of the story is right.

They're idiots, I tell ya!"

Alien 1: "Forgot about that. Yeah, let's give em another thousand years to kill off the stupid ones or breed themselves into oblivion. It would have been fun to watch em scamper around thinking that we're the horsemen of their "apocalypse"

Alien 2: Hmmm, we'll just need to carry along Bob and Joe. Perhaps that would be fun. Let's make it an appointment. We'll meet up around December 2012, their time?"

Alien 1: Awesome! We have gotta post this on UniversalTube. Humans will be the laughing stock of all sentient beings!
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Old 05-09-2009, 08:09 PM   #55
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:55 PM   #56
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:32 PM   #57
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Old 05-09-2009, 10:51 PM   #58
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it just blows your mind to think of how huge the universe is, it must be endless, just like time, there is no beginning and there is no end, it's impossible to have either, of course time is nothing but a human essence, but you get my point I'm sure.
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Old 05-10-2009, 12:38 AM   #59
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Words cannot describe how vast our universe is. When looking at those pictures I can't even comprehend the idea of literally trillions of earth like planets out there with intelligent life forms. Truly amazing.
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Exactly! It's funny to watch people think that they actually mean something in the overall picture.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:03 AM   #62
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Exactly! It's funny to watch people think that they actually mean something in the overall picture.
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A scientifically advanced alien civilization already would have figured out how to bend space and time to suit their own purposes.
On what is this assumption based exactly? There is NO reason whatsoever to assume that.
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The probability is much higher that we are visiting ourselves from the future or that we are living in a simulation.
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On what is this assumption based exactly? There is NO reason whatsoever to assume that.
Why not?

The scientific community already has figured out that time and space can be bent, allowing a person/object to theoretically 'jump' from one point in the universe to another.

Presently the limitations regarding the mechanics that would be capable of this are the seemingly impossible levels of energy needed, as well as processing power which would allow the mapping of every atom in whatever material is being transported.

Mankind will get to that point if we can survive long enough at consistently improving levels. Technological innovation is exponential. Once we figure out how to harness and control the limitless atomic energy available in a safe manner without blowing the planet in half (or polluting it to the point where it's uninhabitable), there will be no stopping what we can do.

If we at our best will inevitably get to that point, an advanced civilization would probably be at that point already...theoretically, that is.
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"Why not?", that's your argument? Really dude. Look at it rationally.
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And some people think we're alone in the universe.
The same people believe a man lives in the sky and pulls our strings and such.
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"Why not?", that's your argument? Look at it rationally.
I am.

- A logical and rational argument would conclude that an advanced civilization would not limit their knowledge to their own planet.

- Taking it further, it is symptomatic of primitive thinking to believe that linear travel is the only way to get from galaxy to galaxy.

- Science has successfully 'teleported' atoms from one point to another. We know that the technology works and we will perfect it as our knowledge in that field advances.

- Seeing that we are just in the budding phases of learning how to 'teleport', an advanced civilization would be able to do much more. Scientific knowledge is merely an understanding of how certain attributes of our universe work. Their realities are not exclusive to mankind alone, neither should they be thought of as such. As the number of known galaxies increases, so does the probability that life exists on other planets - life that may have existed long before our star was formed.

Don't know how to put it much clearer than that...
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- A logical and rational argument would conclude that an advanced civilization would not limit their knowledge to their own planet.

- Taking it further, it is symptomatic of primitive thinking to believe that linear travel is the only way to get from galaxy to galaxy.

- Science has successfully 'teleported' atoms from one point to another. We know that the technology works and we will perfect it as our knowledge in that field advances.

- Seeing that we are just in the budding phases of learning how to 'teleport', an advanced civilization would be able to do much more. Scientific knowledge is merely an understanding of how certain attributes of our universe work. Their realities are not exclusive to mankind alone, neither should they be thought of as such. As the number of known galaxies increases, so does the probability that life exists on other planets - life that may have existed long before our star was formed.

Don't know how to put it much clearer than that...

I believe the possibility of super advanced civilization out there like us. I understand your theory, but it just doesn't seem possible to me. I don't even think our planet would get to the point of "teleporting" human life trillions of light years. Maybe some sort of inanimate object, like a solid diamond marble!
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There are a few holes in your statements... The least of which, while in a sense you are correct, most of what you are talking about is simply theoretical. There are no clear indicators that a. we will ever achieve these lofty ideals and b. that it is even possible. Just because something is theorized doesn't mean it is possible. Take worm holes for instance, they are a theory but none have been proven to exist.

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I am.

- A logical and rational argument would conclude that an advanced civilization would not limit their knowledge to their own planet. TRUE

- Taking it further, it is symptomatic of primitive thinking to believe that linear travel is the only way to get from galaxy to galaxy. There is no indication or proper theory to explain travel in any other fashion besides some "fringe" theories. Even the current and widely excepted model of a warp drive depends on linear travel.

- Science has successfully 'teleported' atoms from one point to another. We know that the technology works and we will perfect it as our knowledge in that field advances. Wrong. No atoms have ever been teleported... yet. The only success they have had in this arena is quantum and has only teleported information from one atom to another.

- Seeing that we are just in the budding phases of learning how to 'teleport', an advanced civilization would be able to do much more. Scientific knowledge is merely an understanding of how certain attributes of our universe work. Their realities are not exclusive to mankind alone, neither should they be thought of as such. As the number of known galaxies increases, so does the probability that life exists on other planets - life that may have existed long before our star was formed.

Don't know how to put it much clearer than that...
I agree with some of your opinions and as Arthur C Clarke once said... "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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I understand your theory, but it just doesn't seem possible to me. I don't even think our planet would get to the point of "teleporting" human life trillions of light years. Maybe some sort of inanimate object, like a solid diamond marble!
There is a bit of an inherent flaw in the way you're thinking about it.

It's only human to believe that the further the distance, the longer it takes to get there.

Did man 200 years ago think it was possible for something to carry over 800 people in the air simultaneaously?

Did man 500 years ago think that he could communicate instantly with another human on the opposite side of the planet (cellphone/internet)? (Actually, 500 years ago they were just figuring out that the world wasn't flat.)

The spurt of knowledge and technology that has occurred in the last millennium shows that humankind can and will achieve things in the future that we in the present can only dream of.

Impossible? For us perhaps, but humanity is advancing, believe it or not.
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There are a few holes in your statements... The least of which, while in a sense you are correct, most of what you are talking about is simply theoretical. There are no clear indicators that a. we will ever achieve these lofty ideals and b. that it is even possible. Just because something is theorized doesn't mean it is possible. Take worm holes for instance, they are a theory but none have been proven to exist.
I stand corrected regarding the atomic transfer as only qbits were teleported.

I must also admit that wormholes are indeed theoretical at this point, as we have no way of creating a Casimir effect with enough negative energy to keep a wormhole open.

Once we cross the barrier of energy generation over the next few thousand years (if we're lucky), we will find out.
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I watched a show this weekend about the multiverse and parrallel universe theorys. Simply mind blowing. They have also determined our universe is flat which brings a whole other set of questions up.

I love reading and watching stuff about our universe.
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There is a bit of an inherent flaw in the way you're thinking about it.

It's only human to believe that the further the distance, the longer it takes to get there.

Did man 200 years ago think it was possible for something to carry over 800 people in the air simultaneaously?

Did man 500 years ago think that he could communicate instantly with another human on the opposite side of the planet (cellphone/internet)? (Actually, 500 years ago they were just figuring out that the world wasn't flat.)

The spurt of knowledge and technology that has occurred in the last millennium shows that humankind can and will achieve things in the future that we in the present can only dream of.

Impossible? For us perhaps, but humanity is advancing, believe it or not.
Airplanes and cellphones don't bend the rules of physics as we know it, and yes I'd say we have 10,000 times the knowledge of physics than we did 500 years ago.

I'm saying, I don't believe it's possible for a human to survive the force that would be generated traveling at those speeds. I don't doubt the technology might one day be invented.
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