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Reverse Shaving
How common is it?
I am currently promoting two programs that I suspect have reverse shaved. I got a quick sale on each one, right after I started sending them traffic. Now, a few thousand uniques later.. NOTHING. Anybody else seen that happen? |
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It's coming look busy
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I hate divulging very common tricks of this business.
Reverse shaving is WAY more common than normal shaving. I would say maybe 100 to 1 or more. I have rarely found true evidence of real shaving in past few years and never in tiny programs. I have seen reverse shaving in programs of all sizes.
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But if you reverse shave, then shave.. . I mean that seems to be the way to go really.
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It's coming look busy
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Even many of the small ccbill sponsors do it.
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Hmm
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that sucks
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It's coming look busy
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it is possible only at monday
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what about reverse sharing?
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Are you retarded enough that it hurts, or are you just retarded to the point of being oblivious? We're all on the edge of our seats wanting to know.
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MrLuvr, can you open multiple accounts to confirm this for yourself? Then perhaps ask for the accounts to be merged. The reaction to this could confirm your suspicions.
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there is obvious ways to confirm if this is indeed true
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I've also noticed with a couple sponsors that I don't send much traffic to anymore. I'll look through my stats on their site for the first time in ages. No sales for months. What do you know 30 seconds after I have done that I get a sale. Magic!
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yep i get sales after logging in if i havent logged in for a while and have had 0 sales for a long time.
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its called hipstering
letting a beard grow kinda
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Never shave against the grain as reverse shaving caused ingrown hairs that are very susceptible to infection.
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I'm sorry, does your mom want it back?
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I thought this thread was about some new shaving technique that would make my face smooth as a baby's ass.
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well when you get a sale as soon as you start sending traffic, perhaps it's just that the one person on your site that perfectly fit the niche in the site you are promoting signed up right away, and the rest of your surfers don't give a crap. Happens to me over they years with my own sites trying a new traffic source, and I don't reverse shave myself ;)
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hm im not sure that this is normal
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I mean not that much
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Webmaster gets sale, is still well under payout minimum, lets traffic stay at program or sends more for numerous reasons, mainly to get his payout.
Give one sale, to guarentee you get more, pretty simple concept, and yes it happens. I get sales from a couple programs 'out of nowhere' to remind me about them, amazing what a well played check can do.
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In all fairness, this scenario depends a lot on what kind of timeframe.
for example: you could have started promoting 6 months and got a couple sales back before the shit hit the fan. the longer the time frame the more common, shorter less common if you just started and you send 1000 hits a day i would keep my eye on it over the next couple days ps: i don't think anyone is giving you sales to stimulate you to send more. |
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I don't "reverse shave" without informing the webmaster. Sometimes a good webmaster who sends joins on a regular basis hits a rough patch, and to keep them happy I'll add a few sales to their account. Also if I hit up a webmaster and ask them to try us out and our sites and their traffic are not a good fit I'll throw them a few sales just for trying us out.
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#29 |
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happens alot
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Reverse shaving causes:
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If people give sales, what makes you think they don't take away sales?
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I remember years ago, you emailed clickcash and said "something funny is up, I haven't made a sale this week when I would have normally made 5 by now." This usually resulted in a sale or two magically appearing... optionally a reply saying that everything looked fine.
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Especially when you can apply a few sales, force some extra payments and presto people start talking or sending even more traffic which results in better chances for the program. It also is very good at keeping traffic in place. When you see an affiliate who normally does a sale a day and then a few days of no sales, dropping in a sale or two keeps morale up and traffic flowing for whatever glitch there was.
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i have seen way more real shaving than reverse shaving....
my fav reverse shaving was a new program i was about to start using... and i always do test sales myself... asked the sponsor if i could do this, they said No. First time ever I got that reply so all they got was one click when i tested the link. The day after I got a new sale email. |
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I completely agree with aftershock.
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Can i ask you something where do you get this 'extra sales money'! to keep them happy! Probably some other poor ranking WM is paying for them! Or do you pay from your own pocket! Really i wanna know! ![]() |
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Any solid program produces at very least half if not way more of their own sales. Just so you know it happens on revshare as well and yes they keep the rebill - assuming it does.
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I prefer 'Reverse Shitting...'
You know... When you shit in a condom and freeze it... Then stuff it up a girls ass ! PS: I like poo... ![]() |
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