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Old 06-15-2009, 01:22 AM   #101
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and make an issue out of the PCR by DNA test not being (as LA Health Dept told us it WAS, that night at VCAs studio), the best available test for talent.
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The HIV/AIDS specialist here in Thailand that I spoke to back when we were getting our testing in order also told me not to only use the PCR-DNA as the only test. He suggested doing the Elisa as well, so we now do them both.

I would be curious though, why the entire rest of the world does not rely on this method alone for rapid testing, yet the LA Health Department said it's the best method for talent. Not that I dispute what they say, I just wonder what data they have looked at in order to be able to say this. Or is it the opinion of one person there?

While we are on the subject, why do YOU think the industry does not test for Hepatitis B or C, given that Hep is also a killer?
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:27 AM   #102
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While we are on the subject, why do YOU think the industry does not test for Hepatitis B or C, given that Hep is also a killer?
Good question.

If we as an industry united together and insisted upon comprehensive testing, and all paid into a cooperative system, it would be both practical and affordable.

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Old 06-15-2009, 01:34 AM   #103
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Back many years ago I caught Jade Marcella working with a bogus AIM test. World Modeling was the agent at the time and neither them or AIM really gave a shit but AIM did say that she had not tested in something like 9 months!!! All the while she had been working in LA with a bogus test and NOBODY, NOT ONE COMPANY OR DIRECTOR SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!

Of course, this was a while ago and I hope LA has since got its act together, but the sound of all this new crap makes me wonder.
Doesn?t make me wonder......most jobs that have some sort of professionalism or aspects of such to them and have a strict policy on all SOP's (standard operating procedures) in case of emergencies such as this happen......this only proves that in an industry who runs around touting the banner of being "professional" usually is NOT. It simply is an oxymoron?.porn in general??correct me if I am wrong but porn was built by shady underworld characters?.mobsters per say?..who by in large initially bankrolled it??now how can you expect ethics from a bunch of people who are already morally bankrupt.


Peoples thought processes boggle my mind occasionally?.this is one of those times.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:37 AM   #104
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Good question.

If we as an industry united together and insisted upon comprehensive testing, and all paid into a cooperative system, it would be both practical and affordable.

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Talent Testing Service....the alt to AIM has such a test......


http://www.talenttestingservice.com/tts/tests.asp


you guys really got to start thinking outside the box......
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:40 AM   #105
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correct me if I am wrong but porn was built by shady underworld characters?.mobsters per say?..who by in large initially bankrolled it??now how can you expect ethics from a bunch of people who are already morally bankrupt.
You are correct.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:43 AM   #106
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right on DWB and if you can do that why cant the industry as a whole do it.
And I'm SMALL potatoes. So if I can do it, I know the porn giants can.
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:24 AM   #107
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You are correct.
This is why I always laugh when I see a Noob talk shit about how someones stealing from him...they are shaving my traffic...etc, etc......

I dont have a MASSIVE POST COUNT or started sex or porn dot com but I have been around since 1998....so I pretty much seen it all....maybe several times over......


but people just got to get their act straight and start practicing what they preach......or just be content when you or whoever gets punked....time after time again......
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:59 AM   #108
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So who is it then?
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Old 06-15-2009, 03:19 AM   #109
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Back before I knew the dangers of Hep, I would only test my boys for HIV. (Keep in mind that I fly males in from USA and parts of South America to work in Asia, expenses paid, so it's not cheap) So I had some Brazilians show up and within two weeks one of them got deathly ill. Spent a while in the hospital and it turned out he was in an advanced stage of Hep B. They flew him out in an emergency to be treated in his home country.

Then the drama started.

ALL the models he had worked with were then exposed to Hep B. I had a meeting with a doc who said that if you catch Hep B early enough, the vaccination would work against it if they exposed person got the vac. So we had to track down all these girls this guy had worked with over the two weeks, around 20 of them, and explain what happened and why they needed to go to the hospital and get shots, blah, blah, blah. It was a mess. The girls were livid and rightfully so. I paid for all of it, as I felt it was my responsibility to do so, but still, it was a mess. Then word started getting around that I got some girls sick and for a while it made it tough to get new girls. It's all good now but it was nasty for a while.

Now, all boys are tested for EVERYTHING before their plane ticket is even paid for. Then tested again once they arrive and start work. They hate it but that's the deal. The girls get tested for everything as well. I'd rather not go through all of that shit again, having people get sick on my watch. No thanks. If they want to catch something, they can do so on their own time after I'm done with them, but not on my set.

Honestly, everyone needs to test for Hep B & C. These are quiet killers. Hep B has a vaccination, Hep C does not.
Totally bro. I commend your diligence. Hep B & C are terrible diseases and easilly transmitted. Much more easy that HIV.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:42 PM   #110
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Okay...weekend is officialy OVER....So now who is the big WINNER of the HIV/AIDS buffett?
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:00 PM   #111
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I felt so....so left out of the loop here....I didn?t even get the memo....

And are far as you are all concerned you?re not getting any Christmas cards this year either......fucking unbelievable.


Tell someone to do one thing and do and the completely opposite.....have you children graduated from grade school yet....or are you all over in India in an outsourced call center!


So now its Tuesday and still no names in THIS thread??..So I call BULLSHIT!


Put up or SHUTUP!
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:23 PM   #112
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yeah HIV, great. anyone else ?
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:27 PM   #113
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