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Old 06-19-2009, 01:37 AM   #1
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North Korea may fire a missile toward Hawaii

North Korea may fire a missile toward Hawaii

By HYUNG-JIN KIM ? 20 hours ago

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) ? North Korea may fire a long-range ballistic missile toward Hawaii in early July, a Japanese news report said Thursday, as Russia and China urged the regime to return to international disarmament talks on its rogue nuclear program.

The missile, believed to be a Taepodong-2 with a range of up to 4,000 miles (6,500 kilometers), would be launched from North Korea's Dongchang-ni site on the northwestern coast, said the Yomiuri daily, Japan's top-selling newspaper. It cited an analysis by the Japanese Defense Ministry and intelligence gathered by U.S. reconnaissance satellites.

The missile launch could come between July 4 and 8, the paper said.

While the newspaper speculated the Taepodong-2 could fly over Japan and toward Hawaii, it said the missile would not be able to hit Hawaii's main islands, which are about 4,500 miles (7,200 kilometers) from the Korean peninsula.

A spokesman for the Japanese Defense Ministry declined to comment on the report. South Korea's Defense Ministry and the National Intelligence Service ? the country's main spy agency ? said they could not confirm it.

Tension on the divided Korean peninsula has spiked since the North conducted its second nuclear test on May 25 in defiance of repeated international warnings. The regime declared Saturday it would bolster its nuclear programs and threatened war in protest of U.N. sanctions taken for the nuclear test.

U.S. officials have said the North has been preparing to fire a long-range missile capable of striking the western U.S. In Washington on Tuesday, Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said it would take at least three to five years for North Korea to pose a real threat to the U.S. west coast.

President Barack Obama and South Korean President Lee Myung-bak met in Washington on Tuesday for a landmark summit in which they agreed to build a regional and global "strategic alliance" to persuade North Korea to dismantle all its nuclear weapons. Obama declared North Korea a "grave threat" to the world and pledged that the new U.N. sanctions on the communist regime will be aggressively enforced.

In Seoul, Vice Unification Minister Hong Yang-ho told a forum Thursday that the North's moves to strengthen its nuclear programs is "a very dangerous thing that can fundamentally change" the regional security environment. He said the South Korean government is bracing for "all possible scenarios" regarding the nuclear standoff.

The independent International Crisis Group think tank, meanwhile, said the North's massive stockpile of chemical weapons is no less serious a threat to the region than its nuclear arsenal.

It said the North is believed to have between 2,500 and 5,000 tons of chemical weapons, including mustard gas, phosgene, blood agents and sarin. These weapons can be delivered with ballistic missiles and long-range artillery and are "sufficient to inflict massive civilian casualties on South Korea."

"If progress is made on rolling back Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions, there could be opportunities to construct a cooperative diplomatic solution for chemical weapons and the suspected biological weapons program," the think tank said in a report released Thursday.

It also called on the U.S. to engage the North in dialogue to defuse the nuclear crisis, saying "diplomacy is the least bad option." The think tank said Washington should be prepared to send a high-level special envoy to Pyongyang to resolve the tension.

In a rare move, leaders of Russia and China used their meetings in Moscow on Wednesday to pressure the North to return to the nuclear talks and expressed "serious concerns" about tension on the Korean peninsula.

The joint appeal appeared to be a signal that Moscow and Beijing are growing impatient with Pyongyang's stubbornness. Northeastern China and Russia's Far East both border North Korea, and Pyongyang's unpredictable actions have raised concern in both countries.

After meetings at the Kremlin, Chinese President Hu Jintao joined Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in urging a peaceful resolution of the Korean standoff and the "swiftest renewal" of the now-frozen talks involving their countries as well as North and South Korea, Japan and the United States.

"Russia and China are ready to foster the lowering of tension in Northeast Asia and call for the continuation of efforts by all sides to resolve disagreements through peaceful means, through dialogue and consultations," their statement said.

The comments ? contained in a lengthy statement that discussed other global issues ? included no new initiatives, but it appeared to be carefully worded to avoid provoking Pyongyang. In remarks after their meetings, Medvedev made only a brief reference to North Korea, and Hu did not mention it.

South Korea's Lee said Wednesday in Washington that was essential for China and Russia to "actively cooperate" in getting the North to give up its nuclear program, suggesting the North's bombs program may trigger a regional arms race.

"If we acknowledge North Korea possessing nuclear programs, other non-nuclear countries in Northeast Asia would be tempted to possess nuclear weapons and this would not be helpful for stability in Northeast Asia," Lee said in a meeting with former U.S. officials and Korea experts, according to his office.

Associated Press writers Shino Yuasa in Tokyo, Jae-soon Chang and Ji-youn Oh in Seoul and Mike Eckel in Moscow contributed to this report.

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Old 06-19-2009, 01:38 AM   #2
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Old 06-19-2009, 01:42 AM   #3
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I dont think so i guess its just talking and some kind of mind game
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I dont think so i guess its just talking and some kind of mind game


Same rhetoric that's been coming out of N. Korea for well over 2 decades now. China and Russia aren't going to back them if they biligerently start firing missiles without very good cause. We will absolutely crush North Korea without support from their allies.

It won't be like the war in Iraq, it will just be an annihilation of everyone in a matter of days. They're a poor country with 1/100th of our advanced weapons and warships.
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I dont think so i guess its just talking and some kind of mind game
until a missile falls from the sky, you may be right. We should just fucking get it overwith before it starts. We all know its going to happen.
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World Chess - N Korea has only said "check", simply move and the threat is gone
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wha the fuck when they will give a military action against north korea, they still waiting to fire there nuclear missile b4 they do a military action...........
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Same rhetoric that's been coming out of N. Korea for well over 2 decades now. China and Russia aren't going to back them if they biligerently start firing missiles without very good cause. We will absolutely crush North Korea without support from their allies.

It won't be like the war in Iraq, it will just be an annihilation of everyone in a matter of days. They're a poor country with 1/100th of our advanced weapons and warships.
I agree, they try to shoot one even 1,000 miles off shore of the US. NUKE EM!
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wha the fuck when they will give a military action against north korea, they still waiting to fire there nuclear missile b4 they do a military action...........
1) There is no oil or natural resource that the USA wants in North Korea. And if there is, it's in small amounts.

2) We already have troops in South Korea so it gives the USA no strategic advantage to have a US base in North Korea.

3) China backs North Korea. We don't want to piss of China unless we absolutely have to.

4) Obama is a smooth talking, jive turkey, pussy. He did not run anything before he got elected and he's not running anything now. He spends more time making speeches on TV then he does anything else at this stage. He lacks the experience or balls to follow through with such a difficult task as turning North Korea into a parking lot.

Sanctions and letters simply won't work with King Jung-il. He is power hungry and would only respect power, not the weakness shown thus far by the world. He knows nobody has the balls to mess with him so he gets away with it. Until someone smacks him down, he will continue.
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1) There is no oil or natural resource that the USA wants in North Korea. And if there is, it's in small amounts.

Let me clarify this. There may be some resources there, but bordering with China, we can not just waltz in and get them if there are any to be had. I don't think China or South Korea would approve and could cause future problems.
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No coincidence that they selected July 4th to run their "test"
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Toward does not equal "at".

Why the fuss?
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I dont think it will happen. Unless it's the US Govt.'s way to declare war on North Korea and invade them like they did with Irak.
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Wrong.. Move and he will move as well.

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Exactly what I think
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How hard would it be to just dump an EMP on em, carpet bomb just their military sites and royal palaces, and missile sites. Of course, I'd only suggest that if they did something as aggressive as firing a missile at or near the US. I'm sure we already know where everything important we'd need to hit is that we can do it overnight.
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I agree, they try to shoot one even 1,000 miles off shore of the US. NUKE EM!
Nukes are way too big a step and would have drastic ramifications for the surrounding countries... S Korea, China and Japan at least.
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Sanctions and letters simply won't work with King Jung-il. He is power hungry and would only respect power, not the weakness shown thus far by the world. He knows nobody has the balls to mess with him so he gets away with it. Until someone smacks him down, he will continue.
I agree.
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While the newspaper speculated the Taepodong-2 could fly over Japan and toward Hawaii...
I wouldn't be surprised if Japan shoots it down first.
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Its just speculations and propaganda.

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We're all bitching about signup ratios huh ?
We've all seen a huge drop in sales right ?

Now i sincerly HOPE this shit gets sorted ! This kind of stuff could wipe out the remaining sales for a couple of weeks if not MORE !
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N. Korea threatens US; world anticipates missile

By HYUNG-JIN KIM – 1 day ago

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.

Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.

The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

The warning came on the eve of the 59th anniversary of the start of the three-year Korean War, which ended in a truce in 1953, not a peace treaty, leaving the peninsula in state of war.

The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea to protect against an outbreak of hostilities.

Tensions have been high since North Korea launched a long-range rocket in April and then conducted its second underground atomic test on May25.

Reacting to U.N. condemnation of that test, North Korea walked away from nuclear disarmament talks and warned it would fire a long-range missile.

North Korea has banned ships from the waters off its east coast starting Thursday through July 10 for military exercises, Japan's Coast Guard said.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Wednesday that the North may fire a Scud missile with a range of up to 310 miles (500 kilometers) or a short-range ground-to-ship missile with a range of 100 miles (160 kilometers) during the no-sail period.

A senior South Korean government official said the no-sail ban is believed connected to North Korean plans to fire short- or mid-range missiles. He spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department policy.

U.S. defense and counterproliferation officials in Washington said they also expected the North to launch short- to medium-range missiles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

South Korea will expedite the introduction of high-tech unmanned aerial surveillance systems and "bunker-buster" bombs in response to North Korea's provocations, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper said, citing unidentified ruling party members.

Meanwhile, a flurry of diplomatic efforts were under way to try getting North Korea to return to disarmament talks.

Russia's top nuclear envoy, Alexei Borodavkin, said after meeting with his South Korean counterpart that Moscow is open to other formats for discussion since Pyongyang has pulled out of formal six-nation negotiations.

In Beijing, top U.S. and Chinese defense officials also discussed North Korea. U.S. Defense Undersecretary Michele Flournoy was heading next to Tokyo and Seoul for talks.

South Korea has proposed high-level "consultations" to discuss North Korea with the U.S., Russia, China and Japan.

Associated Press writers Jae-soon Chang in Seoul; Pauline Jelinek, Pamela Hess and Lolita Baldor in Washington and Min Lee in Hong Kong contributed to this report.

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1) There is no oil or natural resource that the USA wants in North Korea. And if there is, it's in small amounts.

2) We already have troops in South Korea so it gives the USA no strategic advantage to have a US base in North Korea.

3) China backs North Korea. We don't want to piss of China unless we absolutely have to.

4) Obama is a smooth talking, jive turkey, pussy. He did not run anything before he got elected and he's not running anything now. He spends more time making speeches on TV then he does anything else at this stage. He lacks the experience or balls to follow through with such a difficult task as turning North Korea into a parking lot.

Sanctions and letters simply won't work with King Jung-il. He is power hungry and would only respect power, not the weakness shown thus far by the world. He knows nobody has the balls to mess with him so he gets away with it. Until someone smacks him down, he will continue.
I agree with 1, 2 and 3. but we can put all the blame the president. doesnt china own like 1/2 of this country now? we do anything to piss off their buddies in NK, we are all fucked... financially or with missiles
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Exactly. North Korea might fire a missile on Hawaii. So!! Or were you refering to North Korea.
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don't they actually have the weapons of mass destruction ? why does everyone believe all this bullshit ? They are holding two of our citizens hostage ! Nobody really seams to give a fuck as usual. People In Iran want to be free. People just like us if you ask me. We should be fighting for them man. This is shit bullshit

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1) There is no oil or natural resource that the USA wants in North Korea. And if there is, it's in small amounts.

2) We already have troops in South Korea so it gives the USA no strategic advantage to have a US base in North Korea.

3) China backs North Korea. We don't want to piss of China unless we absolutely have to.

4) Obama is a smooth talking, jive turkey, pussy. He did not run anything before he got elected and he's not running anything now. He spends more time making speeches on TV then he does anything else at this stage. He lacks the experience or balls to follow through with such a difficult task as turning North Korea into a parking lot.

Sanctions and letters simply won't work with King Jung-il. He is power hungry and would only respect power, not the weakness shown thus far by the world. He knows nobody has the balls to mess with him so he gets away with it. Until someone smacks him down, he will continue.
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when the fuck are we going to demand our two citizens back ? WTFuckover ?
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How hard would it be to just dump an EMP on em, carpet bomb just their military sites and royal palaces, and missile sites.
That would be cool. Just for fun even.

I don't think the UN would really complain much if we did.
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If they try to attack US, their country will be destroyed cause US has a military bases all around N.Korea.This little idiot who run N.Korea is aware for this.So now he try to provocative US to attack him and later he will blame them that they attack him without reason.Thats why i said this will never happened.
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