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Old 06-27-2009, 08:21 AM   #51
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:11 AM   #52
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Listen everyone one time announcement. Im starting a new company called enron and Im looking for serious investors.lol
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Personally, I would not touch your company with a 500000 foot pole!
You still owe me money!!

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So Jonas, on the website you list Irja Zarembok as President & CEO...

But on the Blog you list yourself as President & CEO...so is that an error, a change in staff
or more of the same old Ibill
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I'm partnering up with Bernie Madoff. BBM investments will begin trading foreign currencies next week. If anyone is interested, we can show you some great returns on your investment.
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I was going to add a second processor, and since ccbill can cascade to segpay I actually thought about going with them. I was send the standard reply, asking for more info etc by one the sales people over there and asked a simple question which I will quote here...

"I'm still on the fence about allowing you to process for me. What is your affiliation with the defunct Ibill? They stoled over 12k from me when they went down not including rebills."

Since that question I have not heard another word from Segpay. Take it as you will.


For fun, google "segpay ibill"
Two employees from IBill started Segpay and hired a lot of their coworkers. When the IBill owners stole everyones money and disappeared they also fucked all their own employees, who were out at least a months worth of pay.

They left behind an office full of people experienced in adult billing, why not hire them?
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:35 AM   #58
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Notice how this Jonas guy ignores all the prior posts and goes straight to the pitch ?
First you have to sign up with Ibill then in August you will get the offer! Exactly the same bait and switch offer the original owners made, exactly. Can anyone say daja vue
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:58 AM   #59
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Gonna be a tuff sell
You think?

BTW, I was thinking about starting a new political party. Yeah really!

Not sure what to call it though

Hmmm...

How about I call it The National Socialist Workers Party?

Name has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
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Old 06-27-2009, 12:56 PM   #60
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total bullshit GFY.....
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Notice how this Jonas guy ignores all the prior posts and goes straight to the pitch ?
First you have to sign up with Ibill then in August you will get the offer! Exactly the same bait and switch offer the original owners made, exactly. Can anyone say daja vue
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Old 06-27-2009, 01:25 PM   #63
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I got burned as an affiliate, and no matter what you come up with, there is one thing I know for sure: It was my most expensive lesson ever and I won't risk another one.
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Old 06-27-2009, 04:20 PM   #66
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Old owners, new owners, old new owners.. Doesn't matter, "iBill" stole the industry's money. Offers for shares in a company that's going to fail is a far cry from paying back the millions of dollars that were stolen.

This is probably the worst idea ever formed in business.
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Too little.....too late.

If you're for real - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

We didn't believe you then - we don't believe you now.

You're all nothing but a pack of audacious, scamming cocksuckers who should count their lucky stars you're not eating your meals through a tube in the intensive care ward.

My best advice to you is take a permanent hike from the adult entertainment industry since you lack zero credibility and are universally loathed by a great many of us hard-working folks.



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As you all know by now were back. I first want to say I am so sorry for everything that has happened to all the merchants who we worked with from 97 to 01 before iBill was sold to those crooks. No need to worry about them, they got what they deserved by the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission).

I was with iBill and some of you might remember me from all the promotions I had, as I was the Director of Business Development. I worked with a ton of you all. It was my Job to build iBill to what it was. I was with the company from 97 to 01 and left when it was sold. 



NOTE: At the time of the sale, every dollar was accounted for by an independent auditing company as part of the sale.




Why did we start iBill back up, and not go with a new name?

Going with a new name was to easy, no one would ever know and we would not have to do damage control, but the easy way out was not the answer. We have been through all kinds of hell getting this name from the old people, and once we got it, the damage control started.



Remember, iBill is the name, iBill did not steal you funds, the old owners did. I spent 5 years building the company into what it once was and to see it fall the way it did was heart breaking to me. That is why I wanted to restated iBill with a new vision and a new staff. 



Even though we don?t have the funds to cover the notes that the old iBill owners issued, we want to do what we can to make good in this deal.


Here is what we are offering to anyone who was with iBill in the past to try to earn your business back.




1. Send us a copy of your worthless promissory note and we will exchange it for stock in iBill at 1.00 per share. This is just our way of trying to make something out of nothing. We will be sending out the PPM on Sept 1, 09 as well as the certificates. Why not, it is free?

2. We are going to offer a 5% per transaction fee with a 5% 6 month reserve
 for a period of 6 months.

3. No VISA fees, we pay for the filings.






If you have any questions or comments about this offer please post here or you can email me directly at [email protected]. 



PS please no more emails saying ?where is my fucking money? as I will not respond to those anymore as I feel I made myself clear here. I will though welcome and answer any other questions.



Thank you


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Do everyone a favor and get the fuck out of here, you scamming piece of shit. It's people and companies like you that violence was invented for.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:51 PM   #71
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You can't be serious. Why on earth would someone keep the iBill name? What's next? Find some Child Care center where the owners were prosecuted for child molestation and try and reinvent that brand too?
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Is Rodrigo still with you guys?

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Ironically Bush's quote almost works for this, lol. I don't think anyone fooled by them once will be trying them again now.
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if you were owed money by old Ibill, then new Ibill still owes you that money. it doesn't matter who the owners are, it's the company that owes you... and it sounds like they now have funds.. so get a lawyer and sue them for funds owed DESPITE the owners of the company. Ibill is Ibill, same indusrty, same responsibilities.
You may be correct.

I owed sky bank a few bucks once.

Before I paid them back they changed from Sky to Huntington.

Tough shit for me, I still legaly owed the cash even in lieu of the name change and ownership change. And they got it.

If this is for real and iBill owes anyone anything, hop on a lawyer and get it on. I'll bet you have a case.
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I remember iBill showed up at the Florida show a couple years ago with a "iBill is back in porn" or somesuch campaign... how did that go for them? And were those the crookowners?

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is this a joke? where is my money ibill?
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Maybe this is fake maybe it isnt but i bet it is to distract people from bringing up all the ties ibill staff has to 2 prominent adult billers pushing into adult recently. Be very careful with anyone but CCbill or Epoch as most of the new ones pushing here like commerce gate are all ibill staff.
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where is my money ibill?
I have been wondering the same thing. I keep watching my mail box. It should be any day now. Right? Ibill said, over and over again, they'd be sending it soon.

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Maybe this is fake maybe it isnt but i bet it is to distract people from bringing up all the ties ibill staff has to 2 prominent adult billers pushing into adult recently.
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Maybe this is fake maybe it isnt but i bet it is to distract people from bringing up all the ties ibill staff has to 2 prominent adult billers pushing into adult recently. Be very careful with anyone but CCbill or Epoch as most of the new ones pushing here like commerce gate are all ibill staff.
I played golf with ccbill, epoch & commerce gate in Barcelona, had lunches & dinners with these guys and I visited the commerce gate offices after knowing these people since 1998 because they billed my Dutch paysites with premium phonelines back then. I don't see the commerce gate connection with Ibill here Charles and nor do I see Commerce Gate as a new guy in the market.
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I played golf with ccbill, epoch & commerce gate in Barcelona, had lunches & dinners with these guys and I visited the commerce gate offices after knowing these people since 1998 because they billed my Dutch paysites with premium phonelines back then. I don't see the commerce gate connection with Ibill here Charles and nor do I see Commerce Gate as a new guy in the market.
Hmmm...

Okay, I can certainly understand if you don't want to name names but.... is there a reliable online source that lists all the billing companies that were started by (or are currently run by) former iBill people?

Most of us are familiar with the name that comes up most often in this context but not necessarily with the others.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:16 PM   #98
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Hmmm...
is there a reliable online source that lists all the billing companies that were started by (or are currently run by) former iBill people?
i doubt it, you gave to read between the lines, apparently 365 billing (gone), segpay(still around, i think) and apparently commercegate? charles is a pretty reliable source
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:19 PM   #99
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ibill has come up with some great fiction in the past
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:21 PM   #100
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Maybe this is fake
this guy is real and is the real prez of the new ibill
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