How do you optimize your site for Yahoo instead of Google? - GoFuckYourself.com

Diomed · 06-27-2009, 11:13 PM

How does yahoo judge their search results?

Just recently, Yahoo took a particular liking to one of my sites.. and I'm trying to figure out for what reason.. Yes I have lots of text and I used to flood the site with a lot of traffic, but I don't anymore..

On a side note,

how far is too far on results.. like at what page do you stop seeing traffic.. page 3-4?

Thanks.

HandballJim · 06-27-2009, 11:27 PM

with yahoo your domain key words will come up better, and the title gets indexed better.

But yahoo better stop fucking with their homepage and trying new layouts...half of them don't even load properly. I like the plain old yahoo home page.

google...good luck your going to need it, you can be on page 1 one day and can't even find your website the next day. They seem to use a lot of different elements on how they show results.

You will still get traffic on page 3 or 4, but depending on your content will the visitor want to return.

d-null · 06-27-2009, 11:35 PM

generally speaking, the further from #1 your search result is, the poorer the ratios will be, regardless of traffic numbers (which are also drastically lower the further from #1 you are)

most surfers that make it to page 2 are getting good at finding what they are looking for for free I think ( and lately google is getting better at giving them the free content they are looking for on the first results page

)

I like msn traffic, there is just not enough of it

JD · 06-27-2009, 11:38 PM

the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

06-27-2009, 11:42 PM

I get a shit ton of yahoo traffic to my affiliate urls from many programs.. good good traffic

HandballJim · 06-27-2009, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

It took me way over a hundred hours within 2 years to find the domains I registered, and also purchased them from aftermarket and auctions. A great domain should be your ground zero, my mistake was to register too many since I started as a domainer. I had over 2,000 at one time...now looking to keep between 550-625, worst thing I could have done...since it takes time to build one website let alone several hundred. Then the renewal fees drain your bank account.

Also I heard that people who search yahoo spend more money (a sponsor told me this).

$5 submissions · 06-27-2009, 11:52 PM

Bing/Yahoo is more forgiving regarding backlink sources

$5 submissions · 06-27-2009, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim

google...good luck your going to need it, you can be on page 1 one day and can't even find your website the next day. They seem to use a lot of different elements on how they show results.

True. But it also depends on niche.

Diomed · 06-28-2009, 12:00 AM

The page that Yahoo is liking, doesn't even have meta tags.

So there is zero damn description when it gets pulled up.. Do you think it would hurt if I added meta's and a description?

HandballJim · 06-28-2009, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed

The page that Yahoo is liking, doesn't even have meta tags.

So there is zero damn description when it gets pulled up.. Do you think it would hurt if I added meta's and a description?

Anything you change...might also change the way your website is indexed. In yahoo, I was getting good traffic using some white labels...I change to plain html websites...traffic dropped a ton. html websites that were getting small traffic...changed to a cams white label...almost 0 traffic. Yahoo seems to like domains/websites that stay the same for at least 3 months.

So if you are getting good traffic don't mess around with it.

rowan · 06-28-2009, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

+1

I get keyword based hits (ie not people searching for "mysitename.com") from Yahoo to thumb TGPs that have no text apart from the age disclaimer.

Porn Mickey · 06-28-2009, 01:33 AM

Work on building extra the content and making sure the site navigation is as good as it can be. Neither will hurt Google rankings & may improve your place in Yahoo

Walter Gropius · 06-28-2009, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim

It took me way over a hundred hours within 2 years to find the domains I registered, and also purchased them from aftermarket and auctions. A great domain should be your ground zero, my mistake was to register too many since I started as a domainer. I had over 2,000 at one time...now looking to keep between 550-625, worst thing I could have done...since it takes time to build one website let alone several hundred. Then the renewal fees drain your bank account.

I feel your pain

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Bing/Yahoo is more forgiving regarding backlink sources

True dat

Diomed · 06-28-2009, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim

Anything you change...might also change the way your website is indexed. In yahoo, I was getting good traffic using some white labels...I change to plain html websites...traffic dropped a ton. html websites that were getting small traffic...changed to a cams white label...almost 0 traffic. Yahoo seems to like domains/websites that stay the same for at least 3 months.

So if you are getting good traffic don't mess around with it.

Man,

I don't even have stats on the main index.. I can only see click through's.

Now your making me afraid to change even that.. but seriously, adding meta kw's and a description might hurt it?

Klen · 06-28-2009, 04:54 AM

For some reason on keywords where i am top 10 on google and bing i am not even on top 1000 on yahoo.Trying to find out why is that happening.

sortie · 06-28-2009, 05:08 AM

I don't get much traffic from yahoo and I have sites in the yahoo directory.

Why yahoo does not bring up directory results in regular search is a mystery to
me. All the sites were hand checked and browsing the directory is more surfer
time on the yahoo site and thus more ads shown.
I don't get it.

Diomed · 06-28-2009, 07:23 PM

It seems like every solid keyword combination on my main index is triggering good search results.. if it were google I would be getting some solid traffic due to the volume.

It's literally picking up every word on the main index, and if I try any combination with those words it's showing between the first page and page three.

Just wish I could re-edit it with newer keyword phrases to grab those serps.

Diomed · 06-30-2009, 02:05 AM

Last question,

any idea on how to make edits to your site without affecting the current serps in Yahoo?

Thanks.

seeandsee · 06-30-2009, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD

the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

tell me about that shit

06-27-2009, 11:27 PM	#2
HandballJim Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4,024	with yahoo your domain key words will come up better, and the title gets indexed better. But yahoo better stop fucking with their homepage and trying new layouts...half of them don't even load properly. I like the plain old yahoo home page. google...good luck your going to need it, you can be on page 1 one day and can't even find your website the next day. They seem to use a lot of different elements on how they show results. You will still get traffic on page 3 or 4, but depending on your content will the visitor want to return. __________________ HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$ Last edited by HandballJim; 06-27-2009 at 11:29 PM.. Reason: .

06-27-2009, 11:35 PM	#3
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	generally speaking, the further from #1 your search result is, the poorer the ratios will be, regardless of traffic numbers (which are also drastically lower the further from #1 you are) most surfers that make it to page 2 are getting good at finding what they are looking for for free I think ( and lately google is getting better at giving them the free content they are looking for on the first results page ) I like msn traffic, there is just not enough of it __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

06-27-2009, 11:52 PM	#7
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Bing/Yahoo is more forgiving regarding backlink sources __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

06-28-2009, 12:00 AM	#9
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	The page that Yahoo is liking, doesn't even have meta tags. So there is zero damn description when it gets pulled up.. Do you think it would hurt if I added meta's and a description? __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

06-28-2009, 01:33 AM	#12
Porn Mickey we all love porn Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,840	Work on building extra the content and making sure the site navigation is as good as it can be. Neither will hurt Google rankings & may improve your place in Yahoo __________________ $150 SignUp Bonus

06-27-2009, 11:13 PM	#1
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	How do you optimize your site for Yahoo instead of Google? How does yahoo judge their search results? Just recently, Yahoo took a particular liking to one of my sites.. and I'm trying to figure out for what reason.. Yes I have lots of text and I used to flood the site with a lot of traffic, but I don't anymore.. On a side note, how far is too far on results.. like at what page do you stop seeing traffic.. page 3-4? Thanks. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

06-27-2009, 11:38 PM	#4
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

06-27-2009, 11:42 PM	#5
HouseHead Guest Posts: n/a	I get a shit ton of yahoo traffic to my affiliate urls from many programs.. good good traffic

06-28-2009, 04:54 AM	#15
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	For some reason on keywords where i am top 10 on google and bing i am not even on top 1000 on yahoo.Trying to find out why is that happening.

06-28-2009, 05:08 AM	#16
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	I don't get much traffic from yahoo and I have sites in the yahoo directory. Why yahoo does not bring up directory results in regular search is a mystery to me. All the sites were hand checked and browsing the directory is more surfer time on the yahoo site and thus more ads shown. I don't get it. __________________

06-28-2009, 07:23 PM	#17
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	It seems like every solid keyword combination on my main index is triggering good search results.. if it were google I would be getting some solid traffic due to the volume. It's literally picking up every word on the main index, and if I try any combination with those words it's showing between the first page and page three. Just wish I could re-edit it with newer keyword phrases to grab those serps. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

06-30-2009, 02:05 AM	#18
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	Last question, any idea on how to make edits to your site without affecting the current serps in Yahoo? Thanks. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION