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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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June Stats: 303,841 Site Hits, 68,913 Sponsor Clicks And $1,315 In Sales
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![]() Sales Stats ![]() At the risk of being ridiculed I wanted to post this to see if I could get the conversation going on how to proceed to increase my traffic and $/unique This %100 free hosted blog traffic. I plan on doing the same thing I did last month but I will try to increase the amount of blogs I produce. I don't mind suggestions but I don't want tons of sponsor spam in this thread. I'm probably signed up with the program anyway. I also didn't post the sponsors I earned from but some of the good ones are in my sig anyway. I will continue to produce handwritten splogs and a few quality blogs next month but I'm looking for someone to help me learn how to use scripts so I can start making text based tgps. I also need to figure out how to host javascript adds on my hosted blog so I can copy them to my free hosted blogs. this way when I change an add or a promo tool it will show up across several blogs. Even if I do nothing extra this month I expect at least a %25 increase in sales. |
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This is not completely accurate either because I have a few sponsors that aren't working with niftystats yet so you can add another $50 to that.
I remember when I could pull in 3.5k in a good month. I guess I need to learn again. |
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WINNING!
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How do you manage to live of 1,315 In Sales ? and that is even before hosting, designs and tax
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Man hope you will be able to make more than this.Cause look like you have a lot of clicks and not so much sales
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I only have $8/month business expenses.
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yep, not using my sidebars very well at all. Could probably double this.
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So Fucking Banned
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I hope you have a day job
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My living expenses are very low because of where I live. Indiana is not like a lot of other places.
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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303,841 hits? how many splogs is that?
and what is a "hand written splog"? i thought splogs were cpntent pulled from someplace else |
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#10 |
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congrats mike for finally making more than 1k
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#11 |
boots are my religion
Join Date: Nov 2005
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the first 1k is always the hardest
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#12 |
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Without seeing your blogs, it's hard to give any sort of constructive criticism.
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Don't feel bad Mike... last month I had over 120k hits to JOIN and barely made $1200 in sales. That was with more than 400k/day to FHGs.
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Check SIG!
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Wow what ratio is that ?
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First impressions are that your CTR is pretty good but you got hit with whatever it was that hurt all of last month. ratios are already picking up this month for me.
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The Thrilla in Manila
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i'd suggest moving to PPS .. even if you could pege an avg 2 rebills for every join ( not likely on a system wide avg right now ) , you should be running PPS until you get to the point where you're making enough sales to branch back out to revshare.
I figure you're in a growth period right now, and it's nice to have money to develop / live with. |
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I agree with Thurbs,
If you DO NOT want to go PPS, then consider a Split. and this seems to work well for a lot of people. Start out with lets say 75% PPS and 25% Rev. Watch thigns, and as you see the Rev grow, you can then start to shift the %. All of a sudden it will be 50/50 and then the other way. At least with some niches/programs. Cams usually work best on rev and so does dating. Hit me on ICQ about some blog ideas. I have a few of my own and might be able to pass on something that you have not already thought of. ICQ 174228679
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Replicate and recreate. Once I feel I've 'maxed out' a blog I will research another niche and push another one.
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I'd change to PPS if I were you. Over 100 sales and only $1,300? With the same 100 sales you'd be doing over $3,000 fo sure.
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When and why is it good to go PPS/ RevShare? Thanks. |
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Oh, and if you do decide to change to PPS: SEE SIG!!
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#22 |
Ah My Balls
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Make sure you are promoting fresh things. If you are promoting tired old programs your ratios are going to suck ass big time
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currently with his stats .. he has 18% of his income coming from rebills. if this was all stats coming from first 35 days of sales ( which I doubt ) you'd assumg that either the full month signups he was making weren't retaining, or the conversions from who he's promoting are lacking. now, in this current climate ( with credit card limits lower then previous years, and current balances higher ) I'm assuming that this would be the trend he'll see for a while from these sponsors. maybe I'm wrong, but this is a wild stab. unlike a program, a small affiliate has no aggregrate data to base his opinions on outside of Ratios and Earnings, and right now, based on his numbers, his earnings per click are handicaped by a lack of conversion / rebills. Take his first sponsor, he's effectively earning 16.57 a sale. even with a big pickup of rebills / conversions, this might peak at 35-40 per sale, and that's a big if, especially based on the limited stats we have to see. Had he been promoting a PPS sponsor or the PPS option at the avg 35 PPS, he'd have earned $490, instead of $232, a 211% gain on earnings. While the money from revshare should pick up, that's later money, and revshare is a winner primarily for those who have volume of sales ( which he does not ) If any of his plans for growth entailed outsourcing labor of any kind ( Design, writers, scripts ) he would need money for this. Money that his current plan really doesn't afford him, as the OP has said he lives on this money and his expenses are only $8 a month plus whatever he values his time at. He plans on growing sales 25% in a months time ( commendable ) however, there is no gaurantee that his rebills will see this growth, since that is out of his hands. PPS would afford any small affiliate the means to invest in their growth and expansion, and do so in an instant fashion. In business, they say time is money, the more time he waits to expand, the more people will expand in his place. If his or anyones goal is to start small and end up big, my suggestion is to go with PPS. higher margins on a faster payscale is the key to earlier growth. that's simply a fact, no one grows overnight while counting on theoretical money 3 months down the line. paysites have a limited earning potential for affiliates, signup + retention. ( These handicapped earners should be his PPS area ) alternatives like cams / datings, have more viable earning potential, in the form of upgrades, credits, and special offers. ( These supplemental ads should be his revshare area ) all of this is based on assumptions that I can't say are accurate since I'm not the poster, but in the example I've given, you can see why PPS is the better bet for the affiliate at current stage. He sent 68913 clicks to sponsors, say he had a paltry 1:1200 avg with avg pps at 35 PPS, that's $2010 USD vs $1315. I doubled the avg b/c some PPS sponsors may convert differently then his current revshare ones. If his ratios stayed the same, 1:675, he'd have earned $3573 , a 271% increase. Since it looks like his sponsors are alot of Full Trial joins, you might say his ratios would get even better as PPS is typically Trials joins over Fulls. Just my 2 cents |
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Nicely written Thurbsie, I agree with everything you've said here
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You have 11 sponsors that you made 0.02$ per click through or LESS.
Get rid of them for a start. And use those other sponsors instead, or find new. ![]() Why bother with those loosey sponsors?? One of them you have 40 sales. Then 10, 14,6,4,4,4 -- those are the ones that deserve more traffic. If you have to, depending on if they are niche based or not you can just sell your terrible blogs, and invest more time in to the ones with the majority of sales/profits. Hope this could help you out some.
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If I look at the trafficpattern of a regular user, they RARELY sign up for the content that made him visit my site to begin with. |
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Opinions vary but many people tell me that a blog that is made and dumped to directories and never touched again is a splog.
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Guys, before you go into rebills you should know that two of those are cam sponsors that nifty only counts as sales even though I do revshare so it's more like. 55 sales and 22 rebills.
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yep, people say my ctr is good though. I don't think it is.
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From my own perspective point as a webmaster: What kind of traffic do you have, what geo? You can have millions of hits, but if they are from "bad" countries its useless.
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good stats though
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you need to work on increase your $$ per sale. your average is $12,80 per sale, that can be almost double.
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How do you avg less than 13 a sale? Do you have small cam sales or pay per email in there or something?
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props to everyone in this thread, and no ridicule for the OP at all I think most people are hurting...
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![]() Also to the OP i would and do always go PPS the only time i don't go PPS is when they don't have a PPS option ![]() ![]()
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Very informative thread, good insight in here.
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mikesinner - How many blogs do you have? Free hosted where? Are you running blogs where you link to galleries/movies/free samples, or blogs where you post a teaser image directly linked to sponsors...
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Last time I checked it was %75 American and British with another %5 from Australia.
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Probably from all those $2 and $4 streamray sales.
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The control panel looks intimidating... hit me up if you need some tips to get you jump started. Plus, see sig for a cool TGP script that comes with very detailed docs on how to get that text based TGP you want going... |
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Got $140.28 in sales for the first three days of this month so a low ball estimate of total sales would be $1449.56. Lets hope I do much better than that.
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nice stats
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All are hosted on Sensualwritter or Thumblogger and a new blog host I just found. I have trouble using most free hosted blogs because they stuff to many text links at the top. One should be enough. Concentrating on using add space on your directories is better. I usually post links directly to the gallery from the image and then a text link to the tour under that. |
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BACON BACON BACON
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thurbs........
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I'm glad to see that someone is so doing well only with free hosted blogs. Does Google love you? |
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