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J. Falcon · 08-13-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoStar69

Mr Orwell was right about 1984

oh you conspiracy theorist they all tell me

2+2 = 5

dumbest post ever

Michael O · 08-13-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

ID is one thing, although I think it is kinda shady to require ID after advertising that people could use their online persona for Epass. Doesn't inconvenience me any and I kind of think you all already have all that on file for me anyway. So a couple of questions:

(1) Why the bank or credit card statement, though?

(2) Why make this change after pretty much inviting webmasters to use nick info instead of their names?

1) To follow Visa's Know Your Customer rules.

2) We have always required information about our Card Holders for example when certain amounts were accumulated or request for limit increases.

AmeliaG · 08-13-2009, 08:02 PM

Actually, upon reflection, I'm pretty sure I did fax over my ID when I first signed up for Epass. If my data is being taken such good care of, what happened to that fax with my info on it?

AmeliaG · 08-13-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O

1) To follow Visa's Know Your Customer rules.

2) We have always required information about our Card Holders for example when certain amounts were accumulated or request for limit increases.

So why would I be asked for my bank statement or credit card statement for a MasterCard?

brassmonkey · 08-13-2009, 08:15 PM

now their trying 2 track us this is bullshit

Michael O · 08-13-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

So why would I be asked for my bank statement or credit card statement for a MasterCard?

Because ePassporte virtual and Electron card is a Visa product ergo we have to follow their rules.

V_RocKs · 08-13-2009, 08:29 PM

Word to the wise... Use your passport number if you have one...

J. Falcon · 08-13-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Word to the wise... Use your passport number if you have one...

Why is that?

brassmonkey · 08-13-2009, 09:08 PM

yeah why

Webmaster Advertising · 08-13-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Why is that?

Because its much harder to steal someones identity using a passport than it is a drivers license, credit card statement, phone bill, etc, etc...

DavieVegas · 08-13-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

WTF, how much shit of mine do they need!

Ya, this is getting a little rediculous seriously. I had to give them my damn driver liscense number for some reason.

RyuLion · 08-13-2009, 09:35 PM

thank goodness!

When I was living in Mexico City a couple of people (talent) showed me a epass card and they said they loved it because it was the easiest way to get USD (cams, affiliate payments) vs. wires.

DWB · 08-13-2009, 10:00 PM

Micheal, is it normal for the Nigerian Epass branch to email me and ask for my online bank password?

SmokeyTheBear · 08-13-2009, 10:12 PM

if i log in and see this message after already uploading all my docs twice and having my account suspended twice and after already being promised twice i would never have to do this again i will be pissed.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-13-2009, 10:14 PM

ok now i'm pissed ... why not fucking do this for your fucking account holders whom have already fucking filled in the fucking info you fucking retarded motherfucking lying donkey fuckers.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-13-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O

If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

what # , the id # , you have to be shitting me if your telling me you are recording and storing passport #'s online ?

qwe · 08-13-2009, 11:00 PM

this is ridiculous.... Michael how exactly epass is going to verify that information? i'm guessing it will not be verified at all, just incase ?

papill0n · 08-13-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

After all those adverts Epass ran about be who you want to be, I think it is just an attempted money grab for them to ask for this much documentation.

Did you all see that, in addition to ID and a copy of the card, they want a copy of your bank statement or credit card statement before they will let you withdraw your funds?

This is the second company I've seen pull this sort of thing in the past month and I think it is just a sign of a down economy that they are grasping at straws to avoid paying you your money.

Take off your tinfoil hat and try to grip reality. The reality is fraud is out of control and requests for ID are to counteract that rather than to make money by simply stealing their clients funds. I cant even believe I replied to this nonsense.

AmeliaG · 08-13-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O

Because ePassporte virtual and Electron card is a Visa product ergo we have to follow their rules.

I'm pretty sure I did fax over my ID when I first signed up for Epass. If my data is being taken such good care of, what happened to that fax with my info on it please?

qwe · 08-13-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

Take off your tinfoil hat and try to grip reality. The reality is fraud is out of control and requests for ID are to counteract that rather than to make money by simply stealing their clients funds. I cant even believe I replied to this nonsense.

and how exactly asking for id's which will not be verified is going to help? not to mention what will happen if all those id records get hacked or stolen somehow?

SmokeyTheBear · 08-13-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

Take off your tinfoil hat and try to grip reality. The reality is fraud is out of control and requests for ID are to counteract that rather than to make money by simply stealing their clients funds. I cant even believe I replied to this nonsense.

lol, yah he must not have seen all the stories of people arrested for fraud due to investigation by epassporte. and all the stories of people getting their money back after being frauded on epassporte..

oh wait a second , i havent heard any stories of people getting their money back or anyone arrested after frauding epassporte members..

AmeliaG · 08-13-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

Take off your tinfoil hat and try to grip reality. The reality is fraud is out of control and requests for ID are to counteract that rather than to make money by simply stealing their clients funds. I cant even believe I replied to this nonsense.

Tinfoil hat? Don't be silly. If Citibank and Bank of America and Lehman Brothers could all run out of money, I really don't think Epass is a better established more stable financial services company than those.

A request for ID (which I have already complied with) is one thing, but a request for my bank statement from someone who is holding my money (not vice-versa) seems peculiar at best.

Don't get me wrong. I find it highly plausible that fraud is up when the economy is down. Having gone through the joys of billing through Globill and being an iBill affiliate, however, I don't believe that billing companies always just take their fee and hand over my funds.

I'm guessing from your 2007 reg date that maybe you are just really new to this, but the slightest bit of either history or current events shows that caution with financial institutions is just practical sense.

Mr. Billy · 08-13-2009, 11:49 PM

I guess it would be prudent here to ask the folks at epassport to post a copy of the regulations they are attempting to comply with.

If, as some of you have indicated, this is not the first time you have had to provide information, then epassporte people should post regulations describing the frequency with which identification is to be checked.

I do believe that some type of identification such as this may well be required to do business by wire transfer or internet on an international basis.

At this point they would do themselves a favor to post a FAQ of some sort detailing the regulations or card company requirements that make this necessary.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-13-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Billy

I guess it would be prudent here to ask the folks at epassport to post a copy of the regulations they are attempting to comply with.

If, as some of you have indicated, this is not the first time you have had to provide information, then epassporte people should post regulations describing the frequency with which identification is to be checked.

I do believe that some type of identification such as this may well be required to do business by wire transfer or internet on an international basis.

At this point they would do themselves a favor to post a FAQ of some sort detailing the regulations or card company requirements that make this necessary.

i find it a bit strange also. i have several visa accounts at some of the biggest banks around , i have never been asked for my id, never had my accounts put on hold , never asked for a bank statement , id # or anything remotely similar. They have my ss # thats it. epassporte should be suing , how are they expected to run a biz when they are asked to comply with rules nobodt else has to.

Jack Sparrow · 08-13-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael O

If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

The end of taxfree earnings for eu people then?

Raf1 · 08-14-2009, 12:09 AM

they do require quite a lot but as long as there is no money stealing involved it's ok with me.

OrangeContent · 08-14-2009, 12:13 AM

Filled it in, no problems afterwards.

felipeav · 08-14-2009, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael O

1) To follow Visa's Know Your Customer rules.

I think this is great as epassporte fraud grows as the prefered method for receiving $ from fraudalent affiliates. People doing legitim business shouldn't care.

What about affiliates that send you fake documents as a couple "suggested" in this thread? You won't be following "Visa's Know Your Customer" right...

neak · 08-14-2009, 03:54 AM

It's because of the new initiative to clamp down on tax havens/tax evasion.

seeandsee · 08-14-2009, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

Blood and urine samples are next

RayBonga · 08-14-2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

After all those adverts Epass ran about be who you want to be, I think it is just an attempted money grab for them to ask for this much documentation.

Did you all see that, in addition to ID and a copy of the card, they want a copy of your bank statement or credit card statement before they will let you withdraw your funds?

This is the second company I've seen pull this sort of thing in the past month and I think it is just a sign of a down economy that they are grasping at straws to avoid paying you your money.

you're right, I would love to know how much they are making on this

Matyko · 08-14-2009, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I have no problem proving who I am when it comes to sending and getting money via epass, I use the card and get payments every day.

+1

cess · 08-14-2009, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

This is the second company I've seen pull this sort of thing in the past month and I think it is just a sign of a down economy that they are grasping at straws to avoid paying you your money.

Yep, it's BS. If this is to fight fraud why didn't they ask for all this info when I first signed up? They waited until I tried to withdraw money and then disabled withdrawing money until I sent in the docs. There was no warning or anything. I've been using my account for a damn long time without sending that info in, now they suddenly want it to fight fraud? Yeah right.

As someone else here said, paypal doesn't ask for near this much info. All the info paypal wants is upfront too, none of this sneaky random disabling withdrawing cash crap.

Rui · 08-14-2009, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

Thats the same message I am seeing. They should already have this info when I faxed it in years ago.

I am curious what law this is. Paypal hasn't asked me for this info yet.

As soon you do a certain volume (total) with Paypal they ask for A LOT more information...while locking your account and funds there of course

Fletch XXX · 08-14-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Tinfoil hat? Don't be silly.

Dont be silly? LOL

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I think it is just an attempted money grab for them to ask for this much documentation.

You claim they are doing this to avoid paying us, who is being silly?

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I think it is just a sign of a down economy that they are grasping at straws to avoid paying you your money

Machete_ · 08-14-2009, 05:20 AM

I dont have a problem with identifying myself - hell, I have all my whois and company tax info right out in the open, and have had that since day #1

The problem, is sending personal information out of the country, to a place you cant legally touch if they handle your information wrong.

Epass should just open up for the "wire-in" function again, and let people send a $5 deposit from from their bank account as validation, or use the regular visa load, as a way of Identification.

- Epassporte did not explain to customers in details why they needed the new information.
- Epassporte have not yet told us how they plan to store that kind of sensetive personal information.
- Epassporte have not told us what they did with the information we send them the first time, and why we need to submit the same (or more) personal information again

I just returned form a 3day trip to Switzerland with my bikes, and Epass actually saved my ass on the way home, because I forgot my Gas-card only works with Diesel.

blonda80 · 08-14-2009, 06:08 AM

I don't mind giving the ID as long as my money are safe

18teens · 08-14-2009, 06:13 AM

I filled it out for both of my accounts. It was no big deal, especially if it cuts down on scammers.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-14-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 18teens

I filled it out for both of my accounts. It was no big deal, especially if it cuts down on scammers.

although we have no evidence to suggets it cuts down on scammers.

So really all you are doing is giving your complete identity to someone who is likely making less than $50/hour, someone that may or may not be a citizen of your country, someone that may or may not be bound by the same privacy laws you are . Someone who may or may not be in a secure facility, and may or may not be monitored. All this despite the fact we havent heard of one other banking facility asking for this information.. hmm okay..

EvilFubAr · 08-14-2009, 08:37 AM

bout time

Machete_ · 08-14-2009, 09:06 AM

I just canceled my personal Epassporte acccount, and I will cancle the two business accounts on monday.

It is simply illegal for epassporte to store that kind of personal information, and I wont support a company that deals that way. I have mostly been a happy Epassporte customer up to this point, but it's just insane that they can even THINK of doing stuff like this.

It really makes me question what kind of people run the management of the company

The only work I will loose over this is the beermoney deals - I can live without that.

Fletch XXX · 08-14-2009, 09:26 AM

everybody loves a good screenshot!

kenny · 08-14-2009, 10:44 AM

Is there a way to change banks on an epassporte account?

PornoStar69 · 08-14-2009, 11:11 AM

j.falcon - silly billy

bbobby86 · 08-14-2009, 11:15 AM

what else can do about...

Lykos · 08-14-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I have no problem proving who I am when it comes to sending and getting money via epass, I use the card and get payments every day.

Nicely said,i also don't have any problems with this,it's normal...
You get to do same when u ask cc from your or any other bank in the world.

georgeyw · 08-14-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

ok now i'm pissed ... why not fucking do this for your fucking account holders whom have already fucking filled in the fucking info you fucking retarded motherfucking lying donkey fuckers.

Spot on!

MediaGuy · 08-14-2009, 05:35 PM

I'm reminded of the Canadian govt. going after e-Bay recently... was just having a conversation about whether or not I should declare my epass revenue... guess that's a moot point now, the Canadian govt. will be receiving my passport and epassporte numbers soon... sigh.

:D

harvey · 08-14-2009, 08:48 PM

I've no problem at all with this, other than the fact they ask for new docs every single month. Even worse: docs we've already sent 100 times and they're too dumb to realize that. I seriously doubt they archive that, otherwise they could check what's in file for any given card holder and that's it. Then again, Epass people aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, to say the least (exception made of Michael O, of course)

btw, I submitted my docs many times, they agreed they have it, not before Michael had to do some stuff to made them realize the docs were there (because they were in Spanish and they only speak Engrish!!!) and after all that, I have been seeingn the following for more than a year:

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Account Alert!
You must submit verification documents to ePassporte to continue using your account without interruption. To view the details of this request and submit the required information, please click HERE or select "Upload Documents" from the menu options listed on the left side navigation bar. In some cases, additional information regarding this request may be found in your Message Center as well.

We thank you for your assistance in this matter.

HOW STUPID CAN YOU GUYS BE????

harvey · 08-14-2009, 08:57 PM

on a side note: Paypal works great. Epass doesn't. Yet Paypal (nor any other similar service that I know of) doesn't ask for any of the damn info Epass does, and the excuse is "US government asks for it" and they are in... Netherlands Antilles!!!

btw, the "fraud excuse" is crap. We all know that when you've been scammed with Epass they will do nothing to protect you and they'll protect the scammer. Anyone that had a problem with an epass cardholder scammer knows it, and it's not like they don't have the info of the scammer (remember: even when they don't know what the fuck they did with the info, you had to send it to operate with epass).

Anyway, same old, same old, just ranting

08-13-2009, 08:02 PM	#53
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08-13-2009, 09:35 PM	#62
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08-13-2009, 10:12 PM	#64
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	if i log in and see this message after already uploading all my docs twice and having my account suspended twice and after already being promised twice i would never have to do this again i will be pissed. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

08-13-2009, 08:29 PM	#57
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08-13-2009, 10:00 PM	#63
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Micheal, is it normal for the Nigerian Epass branch to email me and ask for my online bank password?

08-13-2009, 10:14 PM	#65
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	ok now i'm pissed ... why not fucking do this for your fucking account holders whom have already fucking filled in the fucking info you fucking retarded motherfucking lying donkey fuckers. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

08-13-2009, 11:00 PM	#67
qwe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,109	this is ridiculous.... Michael how exactly epass is going to verify that information? i'm guessing it will not be verified at all, just incase ?

08-13-2009, 11:49 PM	#73
Mr. Billy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 467	I guess it would be prudent here to ask the folks at epassport to post a copy of the regulations they are attempting to comply with. If, as some of you have indicated, this is not the first time you have had to provide information, then epassporte people should post regulations describing the frequency with which identification is to be checked. I do believe that some type of identification such as this may well be required to do business by wire transfer or internet on an international basis. At this point they would do themselves a favor to post a FAQ of some sort detailing the regulations or card company requirements that make this necessary. __________________

08-14-2009, 12:09 AM	#76
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08-14-2009, 03:54 AM	#79
neak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 168	It's because of the new initiative to clamp down on tax havens/tax evasion.

08-14-2009, 05:20 AM	#86
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	I dont have a problem with identifying myself - hell, I have all my whois and company tax info right out in the open, and have had that since day #1 The problem, is sending personal information out of the country, to a place you cant legally touch if they handle your information wrong. Epass should just open up for the "wire-in" function again, and let people send a $5 deposit from from their bank account as validation, or use the regular visa load, as a way of Identification. - Epassporte did not explain to customers in details why they needed the new information. - Epassporte have not yet told us how they plan to store that kind of sensetive personal information. - Epassporte have not told us what they did with the information we send them the first time, and why we need to submit the same (or more) personal information again I just returned form a 3day trip to Switzerland with my bikes, and Epass actually saved my ass on the way home, because I forgot my Gas-card only works with Diesel.

08-14-2009, 06:08 AM	#87
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08-14-2009, 08:37 AM	#90
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08-14-2009, 09:06 AM	#91
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	I just canceled my personal Epassporte acccount, and I will cancle the two business accounts on monday. It is simply illegal for epassporte to store that kind of personal information, and I wont support a company that deals that way. I have mostly been a happy Epassporte customer up to this point, but it's just insane that they can even THINK of doing stuff like this. It really makes me question what kind of people run the management of the company The only work I will loose over this is the beermoney deals - I can live without that.

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08-14-2009, 08:57 PM	#100
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	on a side note: Paypal works great. Epass doesn't. Yet Paypal (nor any other similar service that I know of) doesn't ask for any of the damn info Epass does, and the excuse is "US government asks for it" and they are in... Netherlands Antilles!!! btw, the "fraud excuse" is crap. We all know that when you've been scammed with Epass they will do nothing to protect you and they'll protect the scammer. Anyone that had a problem with an epass cardholder scammer knows it, and it's not like they don't have the info of the scammer (remember: even when they don't know what the fuck they did with the info, you had to send it to operate with epass). Anyway, same old, same old, just ranting __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth