To Breed or Not to Breed?

[TurboAngel]

Well I went to the vet and he was upset that my pitt weighs 45 pounds and they won't fix her. My g/f has a male pitt who's absolutely beautiful, he's 85 pounds and blue. She's begging me to let him bang my dog for the pups. Part of me want's to breed her and part doesn't. My g/f paid $3,000 for hers and swears we'll have a bunch of blue pups, from what she says the blues can bring in better money.


My pup is only 5 months old so it looks as thoe she'll be 90 pounds.

[TurboAngel]

He looks like this but bigger.

[Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE]

all pitts should be put down.

[The Duck]

Why was the vet upset?

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by Jet

all pitts should be put down.

That's just crazzzzzzy, I have a dog trainer who comes every week. The male dog is allso a great dog. Not all pitts are bad.

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by Jet

all pitts should be put down.

Agree .....

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by The Duck

Why was the vet upset?

He would have liked to fix her at 35 pound as they don't fix dogs over 35, I don't understand that but that's what he said.

[Fletch XXX]

breeders are responsible for so much animal pain its crazy... all they see is the dollar signs, not the forced reproduction they are doing to the female.

[Fletch XXX]

the reason i have this opinion is because i bought a tiny 7 or below pound mini pin female and the breeder wanted to charge me double price because she said "if I dont sell her for this much I will have to breed her X amount of times to make money" and I envisioned this little tiny thing being force raped for profit for the rest of her life.

i gave her the cash and swore id never forget that type of mindframe that accompanies those who breed dogs for money.

[bronco67]

So the only thing weighing heavy on your mind is what color the pups will be or how much money they'll get?

How about becoming part of the solution, and not bring more dogs into the world when the shelters are already overcrowded.

Oh, and I love Pits...

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by bronco67

So the only thing weighing heavy on your mind is what color the pups will be or how much money they'll get?

How about becoming part of the solution, and not bring more dogs into the world when the shelters are already overcrowded.

Oh, and I love Pits...

Nope, my g/f is who said that the blues would sell for more. I didn't get her to breed her. My g/f's dog is 5 and hasn't been fixed or laid so when she came over to see my pup she said OMG Tyson and her would have some great looking pups. I have become part of the solution as my friend owns a no kill shelter where I have donated food, toys and money.

[Ross]

I wouldn't do it, generally I hear that female dog owners get all the money earned and male dog owners get 1 of the litter to sell. Thats how it is in the UK. Your friend is using you to get money, tell her to go buy her own female Pitt and breed them then.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

He looks like this but bigger.

And for the record, that dog looks pure evil. I hate Pitt Bulls, one tried to attack my Lab when he was a puppy on his first walk after I got him. Had to pick him up and run back inside my garden. The Pitt then ran onto the road and was hit by a car, it rolled over got back up and trotted off. The car was in a restricted speed zone and also hit the brakes so it didnt hit the Pitt too fast but still made me wonder wtf I would do it it managed to get to my puppy labrador.

[Lace]

Originally Posted by KrisH

Agree .....

Originally Posted by Jet

all pitts should be put down.

Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by Lace

Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

Thanks! People never hear about the smaller dogs attacking cuz people who have them don't think a bite from them is that bad.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Ross

that dog looks pure evil

just because a dog looks a certain way does not mean it is a vicious animal LOL

your full grown lab could do as much damage to a child as any pitt

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

He would have liked to fix her at 35 pound as they don't fix dogs over 35, I don't understand that but that's what he said.

Go to a different vet, that's retarded. My dogs got fixed when they were at 50 pounds already, as they had gone into their first heat a bit early and I had to wait it out. Turns out they both had an extra ovary, and it made their hormones rage harder, but you can get dogs fixed at ANY age.

I honestly wouldn't suggest breeding.. there are so many unwanted dogs in the world now, adding to the population of them just really isn't the responsible thing to do. If you do have purebred puppies, consider that you will have to pay their vet bills to have everything done etc etc until people can buy them, it can be really expensive.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Lace

Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

A good majority of dog attacks are done by small dogs.. little kids get down in their face, and owners of small dogs tend to not give them any kind of structure or discipline. ANY dog breed can be vicious, it is about how they are raised. Some of the nicest dogs I know are pits, and some of the worst I know are "friendly" breeds. It's more about the owners.

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

Thanks! People never hear about the smaller dogs attacking cuz people who have them don't think a bite from them is that bad.

Ya until their kid's face gets ripped open by little frufru dog :P

[fris]

pitts are illegal here

[Fletch XXX]

example: picture taken by owner playing ball with lab

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43935390216@N01/138946992

LOL looks vicious, lets put all labs down!!! ;)

[Lace]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

A good majority of dog attacks are done by small dogs.. little kids get down in their face, and owners of small dogs tend to not give them any kind of structure or discipline. ANY dog breed can be vicious, it is about how they are raised. Some of the nicest dogs I know are pits, and some of the worst I know are "friendly" breeds. It's more about the owners.

thank you!!! I wish more people in this world thought this way.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

just because a dog looks a certain way does not mean it is a vicious animal LOL

your full grown lab could do as much damage to a child as any pitt

I'd feel safer knowing my Labrador was around Children than any Pittbull alive.

[Dirty Lord]

i dont care!

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Ross

I'd feel safer knowing my Labrador was around Children than any Pittbull alive.

thats only your opinion, NO CHILD should be allowed to be with big dogs unsupervised, your hatred for a pitbull has nothing to do with the facts that labradors can kill too. You are like someone who got beat up by a white guy once and then hates all whtes afterwards. you just feel that one breed deserves unjust treatment for being born a certain breed while promoting the acceptance of another breed.

amusing, but hardly factual.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

example: picture taken by owner playing ball with lab

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43935390216@N01/138946992

LOL looks vicious, lets put all labs down!!! ;)

Get real dude. Pittbulls are a bad breed of dogs. How many threads has there been on GFY in the last year about Pitts attacking dogs or people? And thats just GFY.

I was in Vegas in January and AaronM invited me over to his house, his dog Cayman was there, beautiful Golden Labrador who is now a changed dog since he was almost killed by Pittbulls. No one will ever convince me that these dogs are good.

Infact I was at the vet with my Golden Labrador 5 weeks ago just for a check up when a man and woman come in the room yelling at everyone to move their dogs. This was her exact words "Move those dogs, he bites" Talking about her own Pitt. She yelled it as if it was the other dogs fault. The vet took it right into the private room, it was being destroyed as it bit 6 people. The Vet came back out and I asked whats up there, he's like its being destroyed, it just even had a go at me there. Say what you will, they're not good dogs.

[grumpy]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

just because a dog looks a certain way does not mean it is a vicious animal LOL

your full grown lab could do as much damage to a child as any pitt

true, but 99% less change the lab will do that.

[Fletch XXX]

since i always back up what i say with news articles:

http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/...uppy-is-named/

baby killed by lab "puppy".

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by Lace

Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

Shut up idiot - you know nothing about big dogs

The fact that you compare them with humans and completely neglect the difference in the nature of the different races, just prove you know ZERO about dogs or animals

Its because of morons like you, who think a pitt look cool and think it can be trained like any other dogs, that the dogshelters are full of them. It's all fun and games untill they become a 12-15 months, and then the problems start

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Ross

Get real dude.

I didnt read your novel above im just saying...

http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/...uppy-is-named/

see above and then spew more nonsense LOL

I dont own pitts, but I dont see why we should euthanise them all...

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

thats only your opinion, NO CHILD should be allowed to be with big dogs unsupervised, your hatred for a pitbull has nothing to do with the facts that labradors can kill too. You are like someone who got beat up by a white guy once and then hates all whtes afterwards. you just feel that one breed deserves unjust treatment for being born a certain breed while promoting the acceptance of another breed.

amusing, but hardly factual.

Well one thing I agree with you on is no child should be left unsupervised with any dog big or small. Your arguement against me and pittbulls isn't true. First hand experience of these dogs has always been bad. I've never came across a Pittbull which is a good dog. Granted I've only ever come across 5-6 pitts but all of them have had a go at my dog, or the owners have told me to keep my dog the hell away, or they have muzzles on. You are right I just don't like that breed of dog, but thats because for the most part (in my experience) they are a bad breed. End of. You won't change my mind, I don't expect you to try either. I'll never trust a Pittbull in my life. My Labrador I trust 100% but again let me reiterate, I would NEVER leave him unattended with kids/children either, its irresponsible as a pet owner.

[Fletch XXX]

im not even reading all that wall of text dude, not trying to argue, but you people who want to kill off certain breeds of animals make me laugh.


if we killed all breeds who kill babies, you wouldnt be able to own that lab... just saying LOL

im done, got work to do not argue with people who want to exterminate breeds of animals because they own a different kind when all of them kill LOL

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I didnt read your novel above im just saying...

http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/...uppy-is-named/

see above and then spew more nonsense LOL

I dont own pitts, but I dont see why we should euthanise them all...

First time I ever heard of that. However I could google pitt attacks and come back at you with a hundred examples. But its no use arguing with you, I forgot you are always right.

[Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Lace

Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids.

Yeah, I'd like to see you raising a grizzly bear.


A vicious animal remains an animal no matter how you bring him up. It's in his DNA to kill. And pitts have been bred specifically for that.

[Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Lace

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

Wait till he snaps some kid's neck. You'll sing another tune.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Ross

I forgot you are always right.

Its not about being right!

I am saying, if it was up to the family who had their baby killed, you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN a labrador, why cant you grasp that? LOL


seriously, i have no beef with you, this is just hilarious... your puppy was "almost attacked" and you want to kill all pitts, a baby was killed and yet you think labs are better.,... BUAHAHA

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

im not even reading all that wall of text dude, not trying to argue, but you people who want to kill off certain breeds of animals make me laugh.


if we killed all breeds who kill babies, you wouldnt be able to own that lab... just saying LOL

im done, got work to do not argue with people who want to exterminate breeds of animals because they own a different kind when all of them kill LOL

I never said kill the breed once. Please stop making things up. You are right its my opinion, I chose not to like them. If people want to own them so be it, I just wouldn't own one or ever wish a family member or friend to own one.

[Lace]

Originally Posted by KrisH

Shut up idiot - you know nothing about big dogs

The fact that you compare them with humans and completely neglect the difference in the nature of the different races, just prove you know ZERO about dogs or animals

Its because of morons like you, who think a pitt look cool and think it can be trained like any other dogs, that the dogshelters are full of them. It's all fun and games untill they become a 12-15 months, and then the problems start

Yeah, I don't know anything. I've been around plenty of 'big dogs', owned a pitbull, best friend had an american bulldog who's blood line has won many competitions, and I own a Husky myself...but I know nothing.



Keep making yourself look like a tool.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Its not about being right!

I am saying, if it was up to the family who had their baby killed, you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN a labrador, why cant you grasp that? LOL


seriously, i have no beef with you, this is just hilarious... your puppy was "almost attacked" and you want to kill all pitts, a baby was killed and yet you think labs are better.,... BUAHAHA

And I have no beef with you, again tho I never once said all Pittbulls should be killed off. I stated that I don't like them and listed reasons/experiences why I don't. AGAIN, I never said kill them all.

[Lace]

Originally Posted by Ross

First time I ever heard of that. However I could google pitt attacks and come back at you with a hundred examples. But its no use arguing with you, I forgot you are always right.

Here, in plain English for you again -

PITS ARE USED SINCE THEY ARE STOCKIER AND STRONG DOGS. ITS JUST LIKE YOU IDIOTS, PEOPLE JUMP ON THE TRAIN. START A FUCKING CLAN OF FUCKING ATTACK POODLES AND SEE HOW MANY FOLLOW.


I'm done posting in this thread. I should have expected this from GFY anyway. Focus on making money since you obviously have no clue about dogs.

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

I honestly wouldn't suggest breeding.. there are so many unwanted dogs in the world now, adding to the population of them just really isn't the responsible thing to do.

Quoted for truth.

Also the breed responsible for most "attacks" on humans - Daschunds.

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by Lace

Yeah, I don't know anything. I've been around plenty of 'big dogs', owned a pitbull, best friend had an american bulldog who's blood line has won many competitions, and I own a Husky myself...but I know nothing.



Keep making yourself look like a tool.

I dont give a shit - you are part of the whole pittbull problem, because its people like you wo introduce the problems in to socierty. Both with your actions and your bullshit claims.

I am glad that those kind of dogs will soon be illegal here in my part of europe, so we wont see any more kids, adults, dog, cats ect ect attacked by those kind of dogs.

IF we could put down the owners as well, that would solve even more problems

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Lace

Both of you are complete idiots. I fucking hate people who jump on the train.

It's all on how you are raised and brought up, just like kids. Kids in the ghetto drug infested areas are more likely to become involved more so then kids out in the sticks will. Not saying it doesn't happen out in the sticks but its far less likely.

I could raise a fighting chihuahua or poodle if I really wanted to. Just pitbulls are stocky, and pretty strong dogs.

I've had a pit mix, and it was the most loving dog ever. He used to nip, just like any puppy but was trained correctly and wouldn't hurt a fly now. He's almost 8 years old too, and hasn't had ONE issue. Beat it

I had a friend that had a Pit and thought the same exact thing.. That dog was soooo dopy it was amazing.. He loved licking people and love being with them and playing and one day he almost took the kids arm off.

They have no idea why, as the family was walking out the door and saw it happen. The cops shot the dog that afternoon.

That does not happen nearly as often with other breeds.

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

You can't breed a 5 month old dog for gods sake. Do you want to kill her?

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

You can't breed a 5 month old dog for gods sake. Do you want to kill her?

No shit hun! OMG did you really think I was talking about breeding her now?

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by Ross

And for the record, that dog looks pure evil.

Animals are not evil. They have different instincts depending on the breed and are also effected by upbringing but they have no concept of right and wrong. It is the owners who are responsible for their dogs.

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

[TubeTitans_SusieQ]

go ahead and let them bang.

Originally Posted by Jet

all pitts should be put down.

Originally Posted by KrisH

Agree .....

So should all humans, lets start with you 2 idiots.

Originally Posted by Ross

that dog looks pure evil.

So does any dog if you catch it in the right pose.

Originally Posted by Ross

I'd feel safer knowing my Labrador was around Children than any Pittbull alive.

You know one of America's beloved iconic dogs is a vicious one too? Dalmatian.

Originally Posted by Ross

Get real dude. Pittbulls are a bad breed of dogs. How many threads has there been on GFY in the last year about Pitts attacking dogs or people? And thats just GFY.

And how many threads are on GFY, or on the internet period about people killing people? Don't you think at all? Pit Bulls are perceived to be vicious and killers, why? Because of people like Mike Vick, not every Pit is like that, unfortunately Pit's are bred to be fighters so it's in their nature, you just have to train them to not be like that.

Originally Posted by KrisH

Shut up idiot - you know nothing about big dogs

The fact that you compare them with humans and completely neglect the difference in the nature of the different races, just prove you know ZERO about dogs or animals

Only difference in nature is Humans know better and dogs don't. You think you know about Pits but you don't and it's sad because I usually agree with a lot of stuff you post about, but this is one thing you are in over your head about.

Originally Posted by Jet

Yeah, I'd like to see you raising a grizzly bear.


A vicious animal remains an animal no matter how you bring him up. It's in his DNA to kill. And pitts have been bred specifically for that.

Let me dig up a video on YouTube of a guy who raised a lion cub and then released it to the wild, and it grew into being king of it's own pride and they went out and found him and the first thing he did was love up to them.

Once again, it's how they are raised, like any animal, you can make a vicious animal a loving one.

Originally Posted by KrisH

I dont give a shit - you are part of the whole pittbull problem, because its people like you wo introduce the problems in to socierty. Both with your actions and your bullshit claims.

I am glad that those kind of dogs will soon be illegal here in my part of europe, so we wont see any more kids, adults, dog, cats ect ect attacked by those kind of dogs.

IF we could put down the owners as well, that would solve even more problems

I agree about putting down owners, but Pit Bulls are NOT the problem, it's the OWNERS.

Here are pictures of my 3 month old Pit Bull who gets his ass handed to him ON A DAILY BASIS by a kitten 1/3rd his size. He's the biggest wimp ever. I didn't do ANYTHING to make him a wimp, it's his natural self. But me being a responsible Pit Bull owner, he will go through extensive training to be a very well behaved dog.





This is his vicious bark starting, watch out, he's gonna take my leg off!



This is Emme, my moms Sheppard mix pup who is 2 weeks younger than my Pit Buddy, and she is 10x more vicious than him, always making him yelp and run off scared. Funny isn't it?



Oh even better, this was taken just a second ago, while writing this reply up, he's sitting in a chair next to me, and he started whimpering not even 3 seconds after this picture was taken because he was tired and was waiting for me to put my hand on the chair so he can lay his head on it to go to sleep. Yes my vicious killer Pit Bull whimpers and whines until I put my hand down on the chair for him to go to sleep, because he refuses to sleep without touching me in some way, shape, or form.



None of you against Pit Bulls truly know the breed and damn it to hell all because of how the media perceives them. Educate yourself on the breed before you pick up your torches and build your nooses to hang them.

[2012]

dogs yes, humans no