SEO - different IP less importnat now? - GoFuckYourself.com

Kard63 · 09-03-2009, 08:45 AM

It looks like interlinking sites on the same C-class and even the exact same IP is more helpful now in the Google SERPs. Does anyone else think this might have changed a smidge?

Also, do you no follow your links to FHGs? Would it be better if FHG's were noindex?

grumpy · 09-03-2009, 10:03 AM

i would like to know to

Agent 488 · 09-03-2009, 10:08 AM

what is the source of this observation.

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Originally Posted by Kard63

It looks like interlinking sites on the same C-class and even the exact same IP is more helpful now in the Google SERPs. Does anyone else think this might have changed a smidge?

Also, do you no follow your links to FHGs? Would it be better if FHG's were noindex?

Jayvis · 09-03-2009, 10:11 AM

From the wiki for nofollow:

# Google states that their engine takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all. However, experiments conducted by SEOs show conflicting results. These studies reveal that Google does follow the link, but does not index the linked-to page, unless it was in Google's index already for other reasons (such as other, non-nofollow links that point to the page).[7][8]
# Yahoo! "follows it", but excludes it from their ranking calculation.
# Bing respects "nofollow" as regards not counting the link in their ranking, but it is not proven whether or not Bing follows the link.
# Ask.com ignores the attribute altogether.

xxxjay · 09-03-2009, 11:10 AM

I don't even think multiple class C matter anymore. Google knows who you are no matter how many network you try to hide behind.

96ukssob · 09-03-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I don't even think multiple class C matter anymore. Google knows who you are no matter how many network you try to hide behind.

exactly. i am willing to be they are looking at domain registars as well. even if you have 20 domains on 20 different class C IPs, if they are all registered to you, its basically teh same as having them all on the same box.

just remember... no matter how smart you think you are, Google will always be one step ahead of you

~Ray · 09-03-2009, 11:23 AM

lots of ip's and class c's matter if you are talking about backlinks. (see sig)

but, spreading your own sites over lots of ip's and then interlinking them to fool google, doesn't seem to work as well anymore.

fusionx · 09-03-2009, 11:32 AM

I've never seen any kind of penalty for linking between sites on the same class c, or same IP for that matter.

According to google, it's the content that counts, among all the other criteria for ranking. If it has it's own domain, or even subdomain, and the link is relevant, it should not matter whether it's the same IP.

Think about blog hosts and shared hosting. They all come from the same IP(s), and each site can still rank seperately with it's own PR.

vod · 09-03-2009, 12:26 PM

I would say that if you create a website and you make it's own identity; then create links in on different c-class ip's from different hosts helps..

10% relevance
90% backlinks

works best...

Google, Yahoo and MSN used to Run SEO contests, see here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEO_contest

winning SEO contest strategy through the use of backlinking, a technique in which the required words on other people's sites were hyperlinked back to his site.

if the backlinks are on different hosts and c-class ip's it is said to help .... but backlinking is the way to go...

tiger · 09-03-2009, 02:08 PM

I have never seen any evidence that IPs matter even the slightest bit.

seeric · 09-03-2009, 02:48 PM

i agree with jay. there are some linkwheeling techniques that will actually give you an NP-Complete that NO search algorithm can figure out. they have ways of identifying the things that they frown on. Bottom line is..... don't abuse anything. I play in practices that are frowned upon as seasonings to organic practices. Don't over do it and you'll be ok, IMHO.

Jdoughs · 09-03-2009, 03:03 PM

Only 2 types of people care about multiple C Class IP's.

Guys selling links and who paid for multiple IP's because they thought it was needed.

Guys selling hosting with multiple IP's.

d-null · 09-03-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

exactly. i am willing to be they are looking at domain registars as well. even if you have 20 domains on 20 different class C IPs, if they are all registered to you, its basically teh same as having them all on the same box.

just remember... no matter how smart you think you are, Google will always be one step ahead of you

if you are doing it right, why would you have them all registered to you?

Jdoughs · 09-03-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vod

if the backlinks are on different hosts and c-class ip's it is said to help .... but backlinking is the way to go...

Lets keep the statements of facts down to what we or you actually know, not what you heard, or may have read, or remember from 5 years ago.

I could speculate or guess all day long, that don't earn money.

Kard63 · 09-03-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

what is the source of this observation.

I did it some anyway even though I was told it wouldnt be as helpful. It helped a little bit like I was told.

It seems to help more now.

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Originally Posted by bossku69

exactly. i am willing to be they are looking at domain registars as well. even if you have 20 domains on 20 different class C IPs, if they are all registered to you, its basically teh same as having them all on the same box.

just remember... no matter how smart you think you are, Google will always be one step ahead of you

I pay to hide my name at the registrar
I dont use the same google analytics account to monitor multiple sites
I don't stay logged into google
I don't use google toolbar

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Only 2 types of people care about multiple C Class IP's.

Guys selling links and who paid for multiple IP's because they thought it was needed.

Guys selling hosting with multiple IP's.

Man... it really seemed to matter when I tested the theory 2 years ago.... But now... I'm about to interlink everything. Wish me luck.

Agent 488 · 09-03-2009, 03:18 PM

google has been a registrar for some time now.

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Originally Posted by bossku69

exactly. i am willing to be they are looking at domain registars as well. even if you have 20 domains on 20 different class C IPs, if they are all registered to you, its basically teh same as having them all on the same box.

just remember... no matter how smart you think you are, Google will always be one step ahead of you

Agent 488 · 09-03-2009, 03:20 PM

to clarify: google has been a registrar for some time now and most likely has access to all the info even if you use domain privacy.

qxm · 09-03-2009, 03:29 PM

I have a fake ID for each state of the US, Fake passport, Fake SSN, Fake CCs ... google can't catch my cr@zy SEO scheme ..... BIG LuLz!!!

Jdoughs · 09-03-2009, 03:29 PM

Just to clarify also, I'm not saying its good to interlink all your sites

It don't matter with the IP's but thats assuming normal site building and link developing, I wouldnt link together a bunch of sites on the same range. But I wouldn't interlink a bunch of sites period. There is just better ways.

d-null · 09-03-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I don't even think multiple class C matter anymore. Google knows who you are no matter how many network you try to hide behind.

oh yeah??

Pleasurepays · 09-03-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vod

I would say that if you create a website and you make it's own identity; then create links in on different c-class ip's from different hosts helps..

10% relevance
90% backlinks

works best...

Google, Yahoo and MSN used to Run SEO contests, see here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEO_contest

winning SEO contest strategy through the use of backlinking, a technique in which the required words on other people's sites were hyperlinked back to his site.

if the backlinks are on different hosts and c-class ip's it is said to help .... but backlinking is the way to go...

You + Reading Comprehension = FAIL

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Jayvis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 5,427	From the wiki for nofollow: # Google states that their engine takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all. However, experiments conducted by SEOs show conflicting results. These studies reveal that Google does follow the link, but does not index the linked-to page, unless it was in Google's index already for other reasons (such as other, non-nofollow links that point to the page).[7][8] # Yahoo! "follows it", but excludes it from their ranking calculation. # Bing respects "nofollow" as regards not counting the link in their ranking, but it is not proven whether or not Bing follows the link. # Ask.com ignores the attribute altogether.

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