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polish_aristocrat · 12-08-2002, 09:33 AM

Let's be honest for one moment...
Some webmasters claim that they can convert TGP traffic at 1:200, whereas others complain that sometimes they get a ratio of 1:5000 or 1:10000 ( or even worser... ) with traffic from their galerries.
I know that it all depends on marketing skills and the promoted sponsor's site... but in general, are those ppl who can get a 1:200 ratio genius, or all webmasters who convert traffic from tgp galerries at 1:10000 completely stupid ?

What's your opinion?
what's YOUR conversion ratio with TGP traffic?

regards,
p_a

deleteduser · 12-08-2002, 09:39 AM

depends on where their traffic comes from. SE traffic or trades with sites that get alot of type in traffic have better ratios for sure.

right now i am promoting cff trough a tgp and my ratio is 1:1000 that sounds bad and it might is, but its still better then ARS or nastydollars, oxcash or all these other "old" programms.

with galleries i made 1:300 - 1:500 with cff. and i got alot of hits, thats pretty good i think but i am not experienced enough to give a statement, i do more the deisgn work, less submitting myself :D

Undutchable · 12-08-2002, 09:39 AM

The gallery I submitted most recently is currently converting at 1:250 on regular TGP traffic. Got 2 signups the day I submitted and traffic is still flowing.

I've converted at 1:270 for a long time at NastyDollars. It CAN be done. To me, these are the main ingredients:

1) Marketing pitch
2) Matching design
3) The quality of your sponsor
4) The favor of the porn gods

Number 4 is always a factor. Sometimes you get a bit lucky and sometimes you're converting at 1:1000 for a week, after which you have like 3 signups in a row to bring it back to a more decent ratio. It'll always be a numbers game, you'll have to look at it in the long run to get a good idea of how you're doing.

gothweb · 12-08-2002, 09:47 AM

It is hard to see how *all* TGP traffic is converting. So, I checked out one affiliate who I know uses TGP because he got a gallery of my stuff listen on the Hun. Looks like he is converting around 1:1000 with that gallery. I can't imagine galleries generally convert really well, since there's usually "enough" content in them for what people are looking for, and the people surfing TGPs are looking for free porn.

EscortBiz · 12-08-2002, 10:00 AM

im about to test afew gallery builders etc. lets see what it will do

jfkpt · 12-08-2002, 10:48 AM

There are so many variables that's hard to say.

I will tell you this, i've been doing 1:423 with LightSpeed (this period i'm 1:277), and 1:5041 with ARS.

Just try different sponsors and find one that suits your skills (and doesn't shave :D)

joefoxxx · 12-08-2002, 11:10 AM

I'm doing galleries for about 3 years and if a sponsor has a signup ratio of <1:1000 it just isn't worth going on with that sponsor unless you just sending as much people to that sponsor as possible (for one of my sponsor I use that tactic and it works.. signup ratio sucks but at least I do get signups)

SO basicly signup ratio means shit to me. I just look at the sales

But with a JOIN HERE link the signup ratio should be <1:200 or the tour just sucks ;)

And besides signup ratio I find rec. percentage much more intressting!

the indigo · 12-08-2002, 11:25 AM

Listen... stop fucking around with ratios.

I don't understand why people give importance to that useless stats.

- 3 years ago, you had sponsors giving 1st page raw stats
- 2 years ago, you had sponsors giving 1st page unique stats
- 1 years ago, you had sponsors giving 2th page raw stats
- now you have sponsors giving 2th page unique and even join page uniques.

The "average" 1:500 is total bullshit if you consider they changed the way they track hits... in reality everything convert worser than 2-3 years ago.

To figure out good conversion, go with the signup per TGP gallery uniques. 1:15,000 was good, 1:35,000 might be the average now, I don't know.

Sly_RJ · 12-08-2002, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by gothweb
It is hard to see how *all* TGP traffic is converting. So, I checked out one affiliate who I know uses TGP because he got a gallery of my stuff listen on the Hun. Looks like he is converting around 1:1000 with that gallery. I can't imagine galleries generally convert really well, since there's usually "enough" content in them for what people are looking for, and the people surfing TGPs are looking for free porn.

Have you ever even built a gallery? I've seen you talk down on them several times, but I think I've seen you say you've never made one.

My first ever gallery I pulled a 1:200. I think it was beginners luck. I don't really do galleries, but know several people who do well with them.

EscortBiz · 12-08-2002, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
It is hard to see how *all* TGP traffic is converting. So, I checked out one affiliate who I know uses TGP because he got a gallery of my stuff listen on the Hun. Looks like he is converting around 1:1000 with that gallery. I can't imagine galleries generally convert really well, since there's usually "enough" content in them for what people are looking for, and the people surfing TGPs are looking for free porn.

What if the sponsor is not a content pic video sponsor? Dateing/Escorts/PenisPills/Eraser Software

So many things that are not pics and videos and those convert, Many dont wnt to hear this but its a fuckin fact.

Regardless I just hired my first gallery builder/submitter and lets see how things will work.

krox · 12-09-2002, 12:50 AM

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Listen... stop fucking around with ratios.

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To figure out good conversion, go with the signup per TGP gallery uniques. 1:15,000 was good, 1:35,000 might be the average now, I don't know.

At last some common sense!

Different sponsors count hits in totally different ways, so with 200:1, 200 may mean unique, raw, first page, second page, whatever. So you are not comparing like with like.

Unless you have some tracking software that tells you how many times someone clicked on the banner, the only meaningful comparison is with TGP gallery uniques.

OneHungLo · 12-09-2002, 01:15 AM

Things that will get you sales on galleries.

1. Use movies.
2. use the right clips
3.Good design
4. the tour your sending them to has to be ok, but if you make a good enuff gallery they are sold even before they hit the tour

Sausage · 12-09-2002, 02:06 AM

For my signups on tgp I get 1:500-1:800. now were not talking anyhing above 10 a week, but its sustained.

Oh yeah ... I only use ... and have only ever used ARS. this week I am 1:552 using ARS. Wonder what other sponsors would be like. Suppose I know I will get my cheque with ARS.

Cheers!

Bake · 12-09-2002, 03:43 AM

When will you people realise that conversions ratios dont really tell much at all I can convert at 30 to 1 or 1000 to 1 it depends greatly on how you word the text If you put download free movies on the tour it jumps to 1000 to 1 if I put It costs 29.95 it converts at 30 to 1. The only rule that matters is how much traffic you push though a gallery to how many signups you get if its more than 10,000 hits per sale your doing something wrong.
98% of gallery makers dont no shit about makeing galleries Ive been doing them now for 4 years and only know less than 10 really good gallery makers.

12-08-2002, 09:33 AM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	to gallery makers ( about profit ) Let's be honest for one moment... Some webmasters claim that they can convert TGP traffic at 1:200, whereas others complain that sometimes they get a ratio of 1:5000 or 1:10000 ( or even worser... ) with traffic from their galerries. I know that it all depends on marketing skills and the promoted sponsor's site... but in general, are those ppl who can get a 1:200 ratio genius, or all webmasters who convert traffic from tgp galerries at 1:10000 completely stupid ? What's your opinion? what's YOUR conversion ratio with TGP traffic? regards, p_a __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

12-08-2002, 09:39 AM	#2
deleteduser Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 2,218	depends on where their traffic comes from. SE traffic or trades with sites that get alot of type in traffic have better ratios for sure. right now i am promoting cff trough a tgp and my ratio is 1:1000 that sounds bad and it might is, but its still better then ARS or nastydollars, oxcash or all these other "old" programms. with galleries i made 1:300 - 1:500 with cff. and i got alot of hits, thats pretty good i think but i am not experienced enough to give a statement, i do more the deisgn work, less submitting myself :D __________________ ICQ #58981463 Promote my PornAccess Site: 2Chicks1Dick

12-08-2002, 09:47 AM	#4
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	It is hard to see how all TGP traffic is converting. So, I checked out one affiliate who I know uses TGP because he got a gallery of my stuff listen on the Hun. Looks like he is converting around 1:1000 with that gallery. I can't imagine galleries generally convert really well, since there's usually "enough" content in them for what people are looking for, and the people surfing TGPs are looking for free porn. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

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12-08-2002, 11:10 AM	#7
joefoxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 196	I'm doing galleries for about 3 years and if a sponsor has a signup ratio of <1:1000 it just isn't worth going on with that sponsor unless you just sending as much people to that sponsor as possible (for one of my sponsor I use that tactic and it works.. signup ratio sucks but at least I do get signups) SO basicly signup ratio means shit to me. I just look at the sales But with a JOIN HERE link the signup ratio should be <1:200 or the tour just sucks ;) And besides signup ratio I find rec. percentage much more intressting! __________________ A Joint A Day Keeps The Dr Away

12-08-2002, 09:39 AM	#3
Undutchable Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,217	The gallery I submitted most recently is currently converting at 1:250 on regular TGP traffic. Got 2 signups the day I submitted and traffic is still flowing. I've converted at 1:270 for a long time at NastyDollars. It CAN be done. To me, these are the main ingredients: 1) Marketing pitch 2) Matching design 3) The quality of your sponsor 4) The favor of the porn gods Number 4 is always a factor. Sometimes you get a bit lucky and sometimes you're converting at 1:1000 for a week, after which you have like 3 signups in a row to bring it back to a more decent ratio. It'll always be a numbers game, you'll have to look at it in the long run to get a good idea of how you're doing.

12-08-2002, 10:48 AM	#6
jfkpt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 71	There are so many variables that's hard to say. I will tell you this, i've been doing 1:423 with LightSpeed (this period i'm 1:277), and 1:5041 with ARS. Just try different sponsors and find one that suits your skills (and doesn't shave :D)

12-08-2002, 11:25 AM	#8
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	Listen... stop fucking around with ratios. I don't understand why people give importance to that useless stats. - 3 years ago, you had sponsors giving 1st page raw stats - 2 years ago, you had sponsors giving 1st page unique stats - 1 years ago, you had sponsors giving 2th page raw stats - now you have sponsors giving 2th page unique and even join page uniques. The "average" 1:500 is total bullshit if you consider they changed the way they track hits... in reality everything convert worser than 2-3 years ago. To figure out good conversion, go with the signup per TGP gallery uniques. 1:15,000 was good, 1:35,000 might be the average now, I don't know.

12-09-2002, 01:15 AM	#12
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	Things that will get you sales on galleries. 1. Use movies. 2. use the right clips 3.Good design 4. the tour your sending them to has to be ok, but if you make a good enuff gallery they are sold even before they hit the tour

12-09-2002, 02:06 AM	#13
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	For my signups on tgp I get 1:500-1:800. now were not talking anyhing above 10 a week, but its sustained. Oh yeah ... I only use ... and have only ever used ARS. this week I am 1:552 using ARS. Wonder what other sponsors would be like. Suppose I know I will get my cheque with ARS. Cheers! __________________ IW Skype : blance8888 Icq : 15567120

12-09-2002, 03:43 AM	#14
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,399	When will you people realise that conversions ratios dont really tell much at all I can convert at 30 to 1 or 1000 to 1 it depends greatly on how you word the text If you put download free movies on the tour it jumps to 1000 to 1 if I put It costs 29.95 it converts at 30 to 1. The only rule that matters is how much traffic you push though a gallery to how many signups you get if its more than 10,000 hits per sale your doing something wrong. 98% of gallery makers dont no shit about makeing galleries Ive been doing them now for 4 years and only know less than 10 really good gallery makers. __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week