OMG ACORN is FUCKED and FUCKED UP

[mikesouth]

Officials with the controversial community organizing group ACORN were secretly videotaped offering to assist two individuals posing as a pimp and a prostitute, encouraging them to lie to the Internal Revenue Service and providing guidance on how to claim underage girls from South America as dependents.

The videotape was made public Thursday on BigGovernment.com, a political blog launched by Andrew Breitbart as a companion site to his BigHollywood.breitbart.com blog.

In the videotape, made on July 24, James O'Keefe, a 25-year-old independent filmmaker, posed as a pimp with a 20-year-old woman named "Kenya" who posed as a prostitute while visiting ACORN's office in Baltimore. The couple told ACORN staffers they wanted to secure housing where the woman could continue to maintain a prostitution business.

ACORN ? the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now ? bills itself as the nation's largest community of low- and moderate-income families "working together for social justice and stronger communities," according to its Web site. The organization has been accused by Republicans and conservative activists with fraud in voter registration drives around the country and has been under fire since last year for its support of President Obama and for its planned participation in next year's census.

A spokesman for ACORN, Scott Levenson, when asked to comment on the videotape, said: "The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at gotcha journalism. This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further."

On the videotape, "Kenya" can be seen telling an ACORN staffer that she earns roughly $8,000 a month. The ACORN employee then suggests to "Kenya" that ACORN could submit a tax return for 2008 showing that she made $9,600 for the entire year ? instead of $96,000 ? and that ACORN would charge "Kenya" $50 instead of the usual $150 fee for preparing her taxes.

ACORN offers tax preparation and benefits application services free of charge during tax season; it charges nominal fees during non-tax season.

The ACORN staffer can also be seen suggesting that the prostitute list her occupation as a freelance "performing artist."

"It's not dancing, trust me," the "pimp" says.

"But dancing is considered an art," the ACORN staffer replies. "[Exotic dancers] usually go under performing artists, or yeah, they usually go under performing arts, which will be what you are ? a performing artist."

The "pimp" later says that he and "Kenya" plan to bring up to 13 "very young" girls from El Salvador to work as prostitutes. Although an ACORN staffer points out their plans are illegal, she also suggests that the girls can be claimed as dependents.

"What if they are going to be making money because they are performing tricks too?" the pimp says.

"If they making money and they are underage, then you shouldn't be letting anybody know anyway," the ACORN staffer says, and laughs. "It's illegal. So I am not hearing this, I am not hearing this. You talk too much. Don't give up no information you're not asked."

The "pimp" then asks ACORN staffers to "promise" not to discriminate against his sex worker because of "who she is and what she does," according to the audiotape.

"If we don't have the information, then how are we going to discriminate?" the ACORN staffer replies. "You see what I am saying?"

If the girls are under age 16, the ACORN staffer says on the tape, then they are not legally allowed to work in the state, regardless of what they do.

"So it's like they don't even exist?" "Kenya" asks.

"Exactly," the ACORN staffer replies. "It's like they don't even exist."

The staffer goes on to suggest that as many as three of the underage girls can be listed as dependents at the home, but a "flag" will be raised if as many as 13 are listed.

"You are gonna use three of them," the staffer says. "They are gonna be under 16, so you is eligible to get child tax credit and additional child tax credit."

The ACORN workers also appear to be promoting the group's services to the "pimp" and "Kenya."

A second ACORN employee can be heard on the audiotape suggesting that the couple join the organization for an annual cost of $120 prior to attending one of its first-time homebuyer seminars, which are underwritten with taxpayer funds.

Later, when the "pimp" asks what would happen if the organization is somehow connected to the scheme, the ACORN staffer replies, "First of all, it's not gonna damage us because we not gonna know. And with your girls, you tell them, 'Be careful.' Train them to keep their mouth shut."

"These girls are like 14, how can we trust them?" the pimp asks.

"Just be very, very careful," the ACORN staffer says. "Whatever you do, always keep your eyes in the back of your head."

Reached by FOX News, O'Keefe said he was "shocked" at the level of assistance provided by ACORN staffers.

"I was prepared for them to call the police, throw me out of the office and be hostile," he said. "Without hesitation, they helped me every way they could with evading taxes and setting me up with a brothel, with getting around federal tax laws ? doing everything they could to help us. I was completely shocked."

House Republicans issued a report in July accusing ACORN of engaging in a scheme to use taxpayer money to support a partisan political agenda. California Rep. Darrell Issa, the top Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, called for a criminal investigation into the group, which dismissed the report as a "partisan attack job."

[Fletch XXX]

"Whatever you do, always keep your eyes in the back of your head."

good advice

[meatbeat]

Nice GIF on your profile, mikesouth )))

[J. Falcon]

Don't bother posting a link to a credible source.

[SuzzyQ]

I also read thisw on Reuters. I dont have the link though... Sorry

[mikesouth]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Don't bother posting a link to a credible source.

its all over the news ya retard

the "advisor" is going to jail it appears

and ya I love that gif...it mesmerizes me I can think of about 25 reasons just from that gif why that girl is marriage material

[mikeyddddd]

This must be the story Glenn Beck was going to break today.
His show starts in 5 minutes. He got scooped.

[HighSociety]

Welll let the videos speak for themselves...amazing

[dyna mo]

good. that org is corrupt from top to bottom.

[PornMD]

This is like learning the crackwhore down the street is also a prostitute. Acorn was already pretty sheisty to begin with so it's not that surprising. I love how in response they use the same "gotcha journalism" term that Palin used in her infamous Kouric interview I believe.

[DateDoc]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...227305566.html

[dav3]

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by dav3

[baddog]

You can hear someone in the background on the telephone saying SUPPORT OBAMA @ the 5:48 mark on the second video.

Must be fake.

[nation-x]

To blame ACORN as an organization for this stupidity is like blaming the GOP for Sanford. Just because these stupid people were doing this illegal shit doesn't mean that is what ACORN is about.

[epitome]

Oh, Baltimore?

That says enough.

That is probably the LEAST shady thing going on in Baltimore.

[onwebcam]

"a performing artist"

[baddog]

Originally Posted by nation-x

To blame ACORN as an organization for this stupidity is like blaming the GOP for Sanford. Just because these stupid people were doing this illegal shit doesn't mean that is what ACORN is about.

I am sure it was just coincidence that they happened to walk into the one location that had the two dishonest ACORN employees.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by baddog

I am sure it was just coincidence that they happened to walk into the one location that had the two dishonest ACORN employees.

I will completely agree that they should vet their employees way better. Let's look at it from a reality standpoint, though. They hire alot of low income people... especially people who are from the lowest income areas of the cities they provide services in.

I have worked at all kinds of different jobs and no matter where I worked there were people who were into shady or illegal shit... in fact I would say that it is probably safe to assume that some of the programs who advertise on this board have employees at their companies that sell drugs, buy prostitutes, steal or any number of illegal activities. It's pure math and reality... it happens everywhere...

It's only logical to assume that any of these organizations that hire these people from the hood have huge exposure. I know... I have been on the streets... for years after I got out of prison that was my reality. I just worked my ass off until I pulled myself out of it. I have seen all kinds of dirt being done... even at churches. It is the social norm of that sector of our population that has played a big role their way of life to the point that they no longer relate to the rest of society. I am not making an excuse for them... everyone can change and I am living proof of that fact... however, I think that ACORN has done way more good than harm.

An ACORN associated group to aid ex convicts got me off the streets when I was homeless and helped me get an apartment. They also gave me food and job leads. They were called "The Ex Convicts Contact Center". That was some years ago... but I don't think everything they do is sinister and I don't think it's organizational policy to promote sinister activity. I do know that it's a fact of life that those community outreach organizations hire alot of people from the street and that some of those people are what have given ACORN it's bad name of late. I don't believe for a second that it comes from the top... because that is just retarded to say.

[DonovanTrent]

Originally Posted by nation-x

I will completely agree that they should vet their employees way better. Let's look at it from a reality standpoint, though. They hire alot of low income people... especially people who are from the lowest income areas of the cities they provide services in.

I have worked at all kinds of different jobs and no matter where I worked there were people who were into shady or illegal shit... in fact I would say that it is probably safe to assume that some of the programs who advertise on this board have employees at their companies that sell drugs, buy prostitutes, steal or any number of illegal activities. It's pure math and reality... it happens everywhere...

It's only logical to assume that any of these organizations that hire these people from the hood have huge exposure. I know... I have been on the streets... for years after I got out of prison that was my reality. I just worked my ass off until I pulled myself out of it. I have seen all kinds of dirt being done... even at churches. It is the social norm of that sector of our population that has played a big role their way of life to the point that they no longer relate to the rest of society. I am not making an excuse for them... everyone can change and I am living proof of that fact... however, I think that ACORN has done way more good than harm.

An ACORN associated group to aid ex convicts got me off the streets when I was homeless and helped me get an apartment. They also gave me food and job leads. They were called "The Ex Convicts Contact Center". That was some years ago... but I don't think everything they do is sinister and I don't think it's organizational policy to promote sinister activity. I do know that it's a fact of life that those community outreach organizations hire alot of people from the street and that some of those people are what have given ACORN it's bad name of late. I don't believe for a second that it comes from the top... because that is just retarded to say.

Well said, but you obviously understand that, for many people, this is all filtered through a political sieve. That's the unfortunate state of affairs in this country right now.

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by baddog

I am sure it was just coincidence that they happened to walk into the one location that had the two dishonest ACORN employees.

Well for what it's worth, they could have tried this sort of thing with different people at different location hundreds of times before this and this just happened to be the one time they got some idiots to give illegal advice. But yea, this org just seems all sorts of fucked up and chances are while not EVERYONE involved with it is like this, if a lot were like this it wouldn't surprise me whatsoever.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent

Well said, but you obviously understand that, for many people, this is all filtered through a political sieve. That's the unfortunate state of affairs in this country right now.

You are right on the money... the growth of partisanship has been astounding over the last 10-15 years... I think ever since the Star investigations and the impeachment of Clinton. However, it has been very partisan in the past and this is nothing really new... it seems to happen every time the country goes through the process of substantial change.

[billyb]

ACORN has become a front organization for the Democratic party. I am glad they helped you out NationX. 11 of their members were arested in Florida for fraud!. This country has always been partiasan in it's politics.

Hell in the 18TH century, politicians had duals because someone besmirched that persons character. In every organization you will have corupt people in them. I wish they had hidden cameras in the House and the Senate, imagine what those crooks would be saying on those videos.

This goes on with the left and the rights backers.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by billyb

ACORN has become a front organization for the Democratic party. I am glad they helped you out NationX. 11 of their members were arested in Florida for fraud!.

Don't you think that the same thing could be applied to any number of organizations? Not just ACORN... let's talk about the GOP or alot of it's organizations... what about half the big financial companies in the US or State Governments... I don't see the sense in singling out one organization for having bad employees... how about we start scrutinizing them all as much as ACORN has been scrutinized... I am not saying that they have been unfairly scrutinized... I am just saying that there are eggs where hens roost.

[billyb]

You did read my post didn't you?, ACORN is no different than any of them. They just got caught on video, but until the major media brings this to light, nothing will change. We don't have a media anymore that is a fourth branch of government.

Although from the beginning the media was for one party or the other. I wish it was not about politics and was about helping the people. Again this goes for the left and for the right.

[DaddyHalbucks]

ACORN is rotten to the core.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by nation-x

Don't you think that the same thing could be applied to any number of organizations? Not just ACORN... let's talk about the GOP or alot of it's organizations... what about half the big financial companies in the US or State Governments... I don't see the sense in singling out one organization for having bad employees... how about we start scrutinizing them all as much as ACORN has been scrutinized... I am not saying that they have been unfairly scrutinized... I am just saying that there are eggs where hens roost.

So, as long as other people might be doing it we should just blow it off?

[cykoe6]

ACORN is nothing more than a taxpayer funded vote fraud machine. It is a total disgrace and a provides a perfect example of everything that is horribly wrong about big government.

[ZeroHero]

Originally Posted by PornMD

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by billyb

but until the major media brings this to light,

did you not watch any major media news during the campaign? the media was all over the acorn shit

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by baddog

So, as long as other people might be doing it we should just blow it off?

Come on man... let's not play these gotcha games. I think it's fairly clear that I am saying that the problem is not unique to ACORN... and that while I agree that they deserve scrutiny they are not any special occurrence. Painting it as some kind of grand conspiracy, as many on the right have done, is merely overlay for the underplay in an effort to confuse the public or win political gotcha points. This type of thing isn't right when anyone does it... no matter their political persuasion.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by nation-x

Come on man... let's not play these gotcha games. I think it's fairly clear that I am saying that the problem is not unique to ACORN... and that while I agree that they deserve scrutiny they are not any special occurrence. Painting it as some kind of grand conspiracy, as many on the right have done, is merely overlay for the underplay in an effort to confuse the public or win political gotcha points. This type of thing isn't right when anyone does it... no matter their political persuasion.

It doesn't matter if it is unique to them or not. They are scum and we should stop funding them.