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DebsDeep · 09-16-2009, 06:05 AM

Had this idea, seems the whole internet is more interested in buying just movie clips instead of memberships....

So, that being said I as thinking, everyone says adapt, try new ideas

Tell me what you think of this
yes i did this myself and could prolly be alot better but it works
http://www.debsdeepthroat.com/shop/

Lemme know please

CaptainWolfy · 09-16-2009, 06:26 AM

It's Great, how do you bill them? with your existing billing sistem or something else?

katharos · 09-16-2009, 06:29 AM

so ... how are your affiliates billed for the clips? are they also getting percents or ... ?

DebsDeep · 09-16-2009, 06:30 AM

everything is through ccbill, yes affiliates get 50% as always

pornmasta · 09-16-2009, 06:32 AM

use a system of points with an account that the user can reload.

mmcfadden · 09-16-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

use a system of points with an account that the user can reload.

If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

Riffhard · 09-16-2009, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

Jim Gunn does the same thing I believe.

brand0n · 09-16-2009, 06:42 AM

would be great if they couldnt go to tube8.com and watch them for free

Jack Sparrow · 09-16-2009, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

Can they see example clips?

DebsDeep · 09-16-2009, 06:46 AM

I chat with alot of old members and new ones, many say the one thing thats stops them for joining a site is hidden sales, reblling after they have cancelled etc.....

Many posts here talk of tubes ruining this biz, I am sure of that also, however, I felt we needed to take this idea as close to tubesas possible, not to mention the fact that with the economy people are more likely to go or a lower price. To spend one sum may scare them off, but to be able to buy 1 or2 or more clips they may go for

I remember times of going shopping and before i left saying I am only going to get what I need, then fillling my cart with tons of stuff, why? Because it was cheap

Dunno, jjust an idea
I like it though
Debs

pornmasta · 09-16-2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

yes and from time to time give them some points so that they can watch some content for free if they give away their e-mail.

DebsDeep · 09-16-2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

would be great if they couldnt go to tube8.com and watch them for free

My clips are on tube 8?

katharos · 09-16-2009, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

yes amember is nice since they have added the modrewrite plugin

mmcfadden · 09-16-2009, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky

Can they see example clips?

That would be how you set your site up. You just put example clips in the free area and all paid for by tokens in the premium section.

I've used amember for a couple years and they have been helpful along the way. i.e. it was taking a long time for members to sign up for free on my site because I had many members, I started a ticket with them and they fixed it (after a few emails). I would not say support is the greatest but if your persistent I have found them to get the job done. Custom programming is available and is reasonable.

Mutt · 09-16-2009, 07:01 AM

why are you using aMember when CCBILL, Epoch, NATS all do member management already?

mmcfadden · 09-16-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

why are you using aMember when CCBILL, Epoch, NATS all do member management already?

you cannot signup members for free with ccbill (don't know about the others).

IMO this is what all tubes should be doing... offer nothing unless an email and username is provided... then give them something but always push them to pay. It makes so much sense to me.

pornmasta · 09-16-2009, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

offer nothing unless an email and username is provided...

yes and make the user check his mailbox to get what he wants to have.

candyflip · 09-16-2009, 07:13 AM

Bill from PhantomFrog has PhantomCart that does VOD/Clip Sales using CCBill.

http://phantomcart.com

brand0n · 09-16-2009, 07:15 AM

im not saying your clips are on tube8 im saying clips just like yours are on tube8

why would i give you 8 bucks to watch a clip you did when i can go to tube8 and find a clip just like yours for free?

in HD for that matter. or on my fucking iphone..

pornmasta · 09-16-2009, 07:19 AM

think about these sentences:

"if it is free that's because it is samples"
"if it is free that's because it is worthless"

DebsDeep · 09-16-2009, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

im not saying your clips are on tube8 im saying clips just like yours are on tube8

why would i give you 8 bucks to watch a clip you did when i can go to tube8 and find a clip just like yours for free?

in HD for that matter. or on my fucking iphone..

Or you could say, why join debsdeepthroat when i can just go find clips for free?
Very true but people are still signing up

this is just another way to make money.

DebsDeep · 09-16-2009, 07:22 AM

And thanks for the iphone idea...Lets sell ipods clips also

ilnjscb · 09-16-2009, 07:32 AM

How much does that cost? One of the keys might be pricepoint. Adultwork does that, clip selling with a free membership, but the prices are lower. There is a resistance level at a certain price, so selling a packet of "credits" and then letting the user decide seems to work.

alexchechs · 09-16-2009, 08:49 AM

very nice, we have been thinking of doing the same thing for one of our new sites

DebsDeep · 09-16-2009, 01:18 PM

its a pretty cool idea

DebsDeep · 09-16-2009, 03:23 PM

Its wasnt bad to setup, oscommerce witha few add-ons...plus osc is free makes it all that much better

09-16-2009, 06:05 AM	#1
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	Alternative To memberships, Have a look Had this idea, seems the whole internet is more interested in buying just movie clips instead of memberships.... So, that being said I as thinking, everyone says adapt, try new ideas Tell me what you think of this yes i did this myself and could prolly be alot better but it works http://www.debsdeepthroat.com/shop/ Lemme know please __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!

09-16-2009, 06:30 AM	#4
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	everything is through ccbill, yes affiliates get 50% as always __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!

09-16-2009, 06:42 AM	#8
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	would be great if they couldnt go to tube8.com and watch them for free __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

09-16-2009, 06:46 AM	#10
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	I chat with alot of old members and new ones, many say the one thing thats stops them for joining a site is hidden sales, reblling after they have cancelled etc..... Many posts here talk of tubes ruining this biz, I am sure of that also, however, I felt we needed to take this idea as close to tubesas possible, not to mention the fact that with the economy people are more likely to go or a lower price. To spend one sum may scare them off, but to be able to buy 1 or2 or more clips they may go for I remember times of going shopping and before i left saying I am only going to get what I need, then fillling my cart with tons of stuff, why? Because it was cheap Dunno, jjust an idea I like it though Debs __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!

09-16-2009, 07:01 AM	#15
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	why are you using aMember when CCBILL, Epoch, NATS all do member management already? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-16-2009, 06:26 AM	#2
CaptainWolfy Playa Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere on the Earth Posts: 8,439	It's Great, how do you bill them? with your existing billing sistem or something else?

09-16-2009, 06:29 AM	#3
katharos So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,515	so ... how are your affiliates billed for the clips? are they also getting percents or ... ?

09-16-2009, 06:32 AM	#5
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,216	use a system of points with an account that the user can reload.

09-16-2009, 07:13 AM	#18
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Bill from PhantomFrog has PhantomCart that does VOD/Clip Sales using CCBill. http://phantomcart.com __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

09-16-2009, 07:15 AM	#19
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	im not saying your clips are on tube8 im saying clips just like yours are on tube8 why would i give you 8 bucks to watch a clip you did when i can go to tube8 and find a clip just like yours for free? in HD for that matter. or on my fucking iphone.. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

09-16-2009, 07:19 AM	#20
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,216	think about these sentences: "if it is free that's because it is samples" "if it is free that's because it is worthless"

09-16-2009, 07:22 AM	#22
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	And thanks for the iphone idea...Lets sell ipods clips also __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!

09-16-2009, 07:32 AM	#23
ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,870	filming a clip with yourself as talent... How much does that cost? One of the keys might be pricepoint. Adultwork does that, clip selling with a free membership, but the prices are lower. There is a resistance level at a certain price, so selling a packet of "credits" and then letting the user decide seems to work.

09-16-2009, 08:49 AM	#24
alexchechs Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: BROOKLYN!!! Posts: 3,474	very nice, we have been thinking of doing the same thing for one of our new sites __________________ Alex Chechs http://thefawnconspiracy.com

09-16-2009, 01:18 PM	#25
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	its a pretty cool idea __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!

09-16-2009, 03:23 PM	#26
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	Its wasnt bad to setup, oscommerce witha few add-ons...plus osc is free makes it all that much better __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!