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JD · 09-21-2009, 06:42 PM

50 cheapo's

dial · 09-21-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

Who you talking about? I dont do drugs so I know it aint me.

damn, with a ragged out face and body like that, I would have said I was an ex-drug addict or something

MistyMassage · 09-21-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dial

damn, with a ragged out face and body like that, I would have said I was an ex-drug addict or something

Ok, Post your pic. Im sure we could all use a good laugh here.

MistyMassage · 09-21-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2

look misty, anything that is free has a hidden psychological cost. even if you let some dude fuck you in exchange for manipulating html and jpegs you're still better off paying something. anything. but dont trade quid pro quo

No one said I was going to fuck anyone for anything. Bartering dont mean fucking.

I am looking to have someone build and maintain a new website for me for a % of the profits. Is this not fair? I do my part and they do their part and we both make good money.

The crappy site I have currently have takes 1/2 of my profits and its very limited on what I can do with it but it still pays my rent and car payment so I could imagin how much a good site could bring in. The other half of the profit is paying someone elses rent and car payments I guess. hmmm......

If I barter with someone to do this for me and I give them a % then that is paying them. "Cash" not "Pussy Bucks". lol

I would just rather do it this way as I feel Im less likely to get ripped off as I dont know all the ins and outs of building and maintaining websights like most of you here do. The ins and outs Im familiar with are way diffrent "trust me".

If someone agrees to help me we both have to be honest and work together to make money. If I pay someone cash up front they can say, heres your site but you need this and that and some other stuff but thanks for the cash and good luck. Then Im right back here looking for more help and no one wants that.

2012 · 09-21-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

The other half of the profit is paying someone elses rent and car payments I guess.

You must be making some serious b$nk, this sounds like a great opportunity for someone

MistyMassage · 09-21-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly

You must be making some serious b$nk, this sounds like a great opportunity for someone

Thats was I was thinking but I guess that is pocket change to a lot of people here cuz I only have a couple serious people interested so far. Most everyone I talked to wants me to turn over total control and they will send me a monthly check but that aint gona happen. I will just keep what I have before I do that.

mmcfadden · 09-21-2009, 09:55 PM

i don't know why i keep coming back here... maybe to tell you to get that "function disabled" off your site.

if I had a site designed for you and ran it for 50/50... that's what your after right??... who will film your scenes and what will you do on those films?

I'm thinkin like a "move the fog cuz misty is about to fuck ya" kinda thing. And webcams would be the shit... must do. off the top of my head like a college gang bang would likely be the feature selling point

09-21-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

Thats was I was thinking but I guess that is pocket change to a lot of people here cuz I only have a couple serious people interested so far. Most everyone I talked to wants me to turn over total control and they will send me a monthly check but that aint gona happen. I will just keep what I have before I do that.

Even with a 50/50 split, somoene is going to run your site and you are going to have a check sent to you. They have to have total control over the site since you do not know anything about running a website. Your only other option is to pay to have a website built for you. There are very good website designers on this site. Then you can either pay someone to add the updates for you, or you can learn how to do them yourself.

Fletch XXX · 09-22-2009, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

If someone helps me and gets a % of the profit and a legal contract that protects them then what is the problem?

the problem is those of us who have been doing this for 10 years have been through this time and time again and KNOW for a fact that in the end one of you is going to get fucked over.

You will either get someone else to make some changes and screw over the designer or cut them out of their profit, or youll end up in a legal battle with someone who has a contract for a percentage of your site. No way around or out of it.

Some of us have seen so many models like this come to the board and want to barter for design, as someone said, would you barter for your pussy o your next escort deal? Nope.

The oldest trick in the book of getting something for very cheap is to go about this way, the rest of us know its simple cheaper and more effective to pay someone out right.

These deals may look good on forums and maybe even on paper, but the reality is, they NEVER work out. You will eventually want to use someone else or something and the contract will bind you... simple as that, been there done it so many times LOL

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-22-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB

Even with a 50/50 split, somoene is going to run your site and you are going to have a check sent to you. They have to have total control over the site since you do not know anything about running a website. Your only other option is to pay to have a website built for you. There are very good website designers on this site. Then you can either pay someone to add the updates for you, or you can learn how to do them yourself.

Misty, don't listen to anything JaneB says, EVER. You'll be fine with that advice.

MistyMassage · 09-22-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

i don't know why i keep coming back here... maybe to tell you to get that "function disabled" off your site.

if I had a site designed for you and ran it for 50/50... that's what your after right??... who will film your scenes and what will you do on those films?

I'm thinkin like a "move the fog cuz misty is about to fuck ya" kinda thing. And webcams would be the shit... must do. off the top of my head like a college gang bang would likely be the feature selling point

I havent had anyone else complain about any function disabled messeges.

The % would be negotiated depending on who did what. The same person that takes my pix and films me now could keep doing it or who ever I work with could do it, that is something else that could be negotiated. I want to make movies of escort sessions cuz my Fans always want to know what a escort does and how it all works so I thought I could make reality movies.

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Originally Posted by JaneB

Even with a 50/50 split, somoene is going to run your site and you are going to have a check sent to you. They have to have total control over the site since you do not know anything about running a website. Your only other option is to pay to have a website built for you. There are very good website designers on this site. Then you can either pay someone to add the updates for you, or you can learn how to do them yourself.

There is no dought that there are very good website designers on this site, thats why Im here but the only one that will send me a check is someone like ccbill. Whomever builds and maintains my site will not have control over my money but they will have acess to copies of the statemnts along with their checks so they know that are getting the correct percentage.

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

the problem is those of us who have been doing this for 10 years have been through this time and time again and KNOW for a fact that in the end one of you is going to get fucked over.

You will either get someone else to make some changes and screw over the designer or cut them out of their profit, or youll end up in a legal battle with someone who has a contract for a percentage of your site. No way around or out of it.

Some of us have seen so many models like this come to the board and want to barter for design, as someone said, would you barter for your pussy o your next escort deal? Nope.

The oldest trick in the book of getting something for very cheap is to go about this way, the rest of us know its simple cheaper and more effective to pay someone out right.

These deals may look good on forums and maybe even on paper, but the reality is, they NEVER work out. You will eventually want to use someone else or something and the contract will bind you... simple as that, been there done it so many times LOL

I believe that if we put in a contract that the % can be renegotiated on a anual basis then it will work out. I understand that things could change and someone could be doing a lot more work then what was agreed on at the start. Like if I was to become a feature dancer and traveled I wouldnt have as much time to do my part. But on the otherhand I would meet a lot of new girls and Im bi so that might be a plus. Its always a chance and maybe there is someone out there that is new to webdesign that is looking for a break like I am and neither one of us really have nothing to loose by working together.

The only people I have ever fucked in my life tottaly enjoyed it.

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Originally Posted by area51

Misty, don't listen to anything JaneB says, EVER. You'll be fine with that advice.

You havent been the nicest guy in my threads so I dont know if you are just fucking with me again or you are serious here.

mmcfadden · 09-22-2009, 04:26 PM

Bottom line Misty, scrape up a couple grand and just hire a good designer to redo your site (also get rid of that function disabled ;). Make sure to have an open forum on the site or a blog and try to get your own traffic.

It sounds like you want a traffic hog to scoop you up and pay for your design and send you loads of traffic. Won't happen.

Have you read this board today? Tubes, etc. You need your own traffic and need to generate yourself. Open sites that are updated daily with a backdoor for paying members do well right now.

You don't need a partner. You need a designer who has some knowledge of SE techniques to set it up correctly.

dav3 · 09-22-2009, 04:28 PM

Just keep doing what you are doing, but do it a little harder and more efficiently. Then buy a design or whatever.

lagcam · 09-22-2009, 04:41 PM

As others have said, very few partnerships will ever work out.

If I was you, I would just pay somebody to make my existing site look better. You could give it a face lift relatively cheaply, there are always designers looking for work here, and you can get plenty of ideas of what you want by looking at other sites online.

As regards ongoing site updates and management, this is where you can use your bartering skills. If you have any members in your fan club, offer them a free membership for doing it for you or free membership plus whatever they need. Somebody who likes you enough to join your fan club, may like you enough to help you for free.

MistyMassage · 09-22-2009, 05:29 PM

The problem is, I dont own my website "its a cookie cutter" anyone can use rare-escort site. Its free but they take half of everything you make so its not really free. Most girls dont take advantage of the Fan Club option like I have, they just use it to advertise their escort service. All I can do is fill in the blanks where they provide them. If I hire someone to build a site I wouldt know how to set up a membership like I have now. I have sent newsletters to my Fans and I get a lot of promisses but nothing ever happens or they slap something together that really sucks and they get pissed that I didnt like it so I would rather keep my Fans out of it.

Is anyone else getting a function disabled messege on my site? Im not seeing it.

Misty

Forest · 09-22-2009, 05:37 PM

send me some hi rez images of you and what your will to do on the site ie bloging, webcams, what niches your willing to work on the site, ect to the email in my sig and we can talk.

i have design, traffic, credit card processing, affiliate program so everything a new site needs and we are looking for a solo girl model

mmcfadden · 09-22-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

The problem is, I dont own my website "its a cookie cutter" anyone can use rare-escort site. Its free but they take half of everything you make so its not really free. Most girls dont take advantage of the Fan Club option like I have, they just use it to advertise their escort service. All I can do is fill in the blanks where they provide them. If I hire someone to build a site I wouldt know how to set up a membership like I have now. I have sent newsletters to my Fans and I get a lot of promisses but nothing ever happens or they slap something together that really sucks and they get pissed that I didnt like it so I would rather keep my Fans out of it.

Is anyone else getting a function disabled messege on my site? Im not seeing it.

Misty

I understand.

Ok... email the guy above and you can shoot me an email as well. see sig

sig

mmcfadden at vstrippoker duet com

MistyMassage · 09-22-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

I understand.

Ok... email the guy above and you can shoot me an email as well. see sig

sig

mmcfadden at vstrippoker duet com

I dont have ICQ and Im not even sure what it is but my email is on the main page of my website if you would like to email me. If you email me your # I can call you as I speak much better than I type.

$5 submissions · 09-22-2009, 06:54 PM

If anyone wants to barter, hit me up. I can barter SEO and writing services

I will barter for software development :D

Helen · 09-22-2009, 06:56 PM

I hope you manage to find somebody to work with you, good luck

mmcfadden · 09-22-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

I dont have ICQ and Im not even sure what it is but my email is on the main page of my website if you would like to email me. If you email me your # I can call you as I speak much better than I type.

it's function disabled

I did email you so give it a check

Forest · 09-22-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

If anyone wants to barter, hit me up. I can barter SEO and writing services

I will barter for software development :D

you do mainstream seo?

we may be able to work out a deal. Im always looking for mainstream seo for clients

Glenn Beck · 09-22-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

No one said I was going to fuck anyone for anything. Bartering dont mean fucking.

If you change your mind, let me know [email protected]

MistyMassage · 09-22-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Beck

If you change your mind, let me know [email protected]

If I ever make a Porn we can Barter for some air time on your show. lol

Better yet, make a Porn with me and Im sure it will get plenty of air time!

09-22-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by area51

Misty, don't listen to anything JaneB says, EVER. You'll be fine with that advice.

All you do is try and start shit with people on this forum. Grow the fuck up already.

09-22-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

I dont have ICQ and Im not even sure what it is but my email is on the main page of my website if you would like to email me. If you email me your # I can call you as I speak much better than I type.

You can check out ICQ here http://www.icq.com

MistyMassage · 09-23-2009, 01:36 PM

Thanks JaneB!

AaliyahLove · 09-23-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by area51

Misty, don't listen to anything JaneB says, EVER. You'll be fine with that advice.

Misty, this IS good advice. Don't tell her anything personal about yourself and don't trust her biz advice either.

JP-pornshooter · 09-23-2009, 04:40 PM

being a stripper and legal whore usually = lazy ass

somehow you found this site, so there must be a couple lights on.

here is advise: since you make top $$ being a stripper and what not, use some of that big cash on the best website design and photographer money can buy.
forget about getting it for free..
the only ones offering it to you for free are the losers who have only very little talent.

09-23-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AaliyahLove

Misty, this IS good advice. Don't tell her anything personal about yourself and don't trust her biz advice either.

Oh shut up Aaliyah. I have had it with you and your boyfriend. You are both fucking stalkers and attention whores. You both need to get a life.

mmcfadden · 09-23-2009, 04:51 PM

Here we go... I have the popcorn and brewsky's

digitaldivas · 09-23-2009, 04:52 PM

how do your feet smell? and are they pretty?

09-23-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Here we go... I have the popcorn and brewsky's

LOL no popcorn. I think Aaliyah and her man KB have proven they are stalkers and attention whores. They claim I stalked Aaliyah once but it is clear on here by their actions who the stalkers are. Those two will do anything for attention.

MistyMassage · 09-23-2009, 07:18 PM

Im not one to make judgements by what other people say. Im just looking for a new website and I dont really care who dont like who or any other drama. I work hard and try to live my life drama free.

mmcfadden · 09-23-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MistyMassage

Im not one to make judgements by what other people say. Im just looking for a new website and I dont really care who dont like who or any other drama. I work hard and try to live my life drama free.

are you gonna call me or no? pick up the phone and dial... 867-5309

09-23-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

are you gonna call me or no? pick up the phone and dial... 867-5309

LOL that made me laugh. Her name is not Jenny.

Agent 488 · 09-23-2009, 07:25 PM

misty gfy is right for once. drop the partnership idea. as you can see this thread is going to become full on stupid so make your decision quick ... the stupid is coming.

MistyMassage · 09-24-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

are you gonna call me or no? pick up the phone and dial... 867-5309

I did call you "twice".

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Originally Posted by JaneB

LOL that made me laugh. Her name is not Jenny.

Who is Jenny?

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

misty gfy is right for once. drop the partnership idea. as you can see this thread is going to become full on stupid so make your decision quick ... the stupid is coming.

What can I say? I dont havea reply for this. Its late and I just got home from work so Im too tired to think.

mmcfadden · 09-25-2009, 07:31 PM

here is a hint...

09-22-2009, 04:28 PM	#63
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09-22-2009, 04:41 PM	#64
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	As others have said, very few partnerships will ever work out. If I was you, I would just pay somebody to make my existing site look better. You could give it a face lift relatively cheaply, there are always designers looking for work here, and you can get plenty of ideas of what you want by looking at other sites online. As regards ongoing site updates and management, this is where you can use your bartering skills. If you have any members in your fan club, offer them a free membership for doing it for you or free membership plus whatever they need. Somebody who likes you enough to join your fan club, may like you enough to help you for free. __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

09-22-2009, 05:29 PM	#65
MistyMassage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 61	The problem is, I dont own my website "its a cookie cutter" anyone can use rare-escort site. Its free but they take half of everything you make so its not really free. Most girls dont take advantage of the Fan Club option like I have, they just use it to advertise their escort service. All I can do is fill in the blanks where they provide them. If I hire someone to build a site I wouldt know how to set up a membership like I have now. I have sent newsletters to my Fans and I get a lot of promisses but nothing ever happens or they slap something together that really sucks and they get pissed that I didnt like it so I would rather keep my Fans out of it. Is anyone else getting a function disabled messege on my site? Im not seeing it. Misty __________________ http://mistymassage.com

09-22-2009, 06:54 PM	#69
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09-22-2009, 06:56 PM	#70
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09-21-2009, 06:42 PM	#51
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09-21-2009, 09:55 PM	#57
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	i don't know why i keep coming back here... maybe to tell you to get that "function disabled" off your site. if I had a site designed for you and ran it for 50/50... that's what your after right??... who will film your scenes and what will you do on those films? I'm thinkin like a "move the fog cuz misty is about to fuck ya" kinda thing. And webcams would be the shit... must do. off the top of my head like a college gang bang would likely be the feature selling point

09-22-2009, 04:26 PM	#62
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	Bottom line Misty, scrape up a couple grand and just hire a good designer to redo your site (also get rid of that function disabled ;). Make sure to have an open forum on the site or a blog and try to get your own traffic. It sounds like you want a traffic hog to scoop you up and pay for your design and send you loads of traffic. Won't happen. Have you read this board today? Tubes, etc. You need your own traffic and need to generate yourself. Open sites that are updated daily with a backdoor for paying members do well right now. You don't need a partner. You need a designer who has some knowledge of SE techniques to set it up correctly.

09-22-2009, 05:37 PM	#66
Forest Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hollywood Fl. Posts: 8,988	send me some hi rez images of you and what your will to do on the site ie bloging, webcams, what niches your willing to work on the site, ect to the email in my sig and we can talk. i have design, traffic, credit card processing, affiliate program so everything a new site needs and we are looking for a solo girl model

09-23-2009, 01:36 PM	#77
MistyMassage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 61	Thanks JaneB! __________________ http://mistymassage.com

09-23-2009, 04:40 PM	#79
JP-pornshooter Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: westcoast usa Posts: 4,007	being a stripper and legal whore usually = lazy ass somehow you found this site, so there must be a couple lights on. here is advise: since you make top $$ being a stripper and what not, use some of that big cash on the best website design and photographer money can buy. forget about getting it for free.. the only ones offering it to you for free are the losers who have only very little talent. __________________ "Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown

09-23-2009, 04:51 PM	#81
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	Here we go... I have the popcorn and brewsky's

09-23-2009, 04:52 PM	#82
digitaldivas ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 4,328	how do your feet smell? and are they pretty? __________________ ...

09-23-2009, 07:18 PM	#84
MistyMassage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 61	Im not one to make judgements by what other people say. Im just looking for a new website and I dont really care who dont like who or any other drama. I work hard and try to live my life drama free. __________________ http://mistymassage.com

09-23-2009, 07:25 PM	#87
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	misty gfy is right for once. drop the partnership idea. as you can see this thread is going to become full on stupid so make your decision quick ... the stupid is coming.

09-25-2009, 07:31 PM	#89
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	here is a hint...