Is there much point writing a FAKE TUBE SITE these days? - GoFuckYourself.com

CunningStunt · 09-19-2009, 02:41 AM

By fake, I mean, non stolen content.

You get your script of choice, brand up a domain, fill it full of thousands of sponsor galleries, promote it throughout your network of hundreds of sites, funnel the traffic to it, try and make bank on anything non-porn you can think of that actually can't be stolen - cams, pills, products, and hey presto, loads of dough?

It seems to me that surfers are getting more and more cluey, and will spot promo only short sponsor videos a mile off. They are not going to bookmark a site (keep coming back, and hopefully buy some shiz) that contains only those.

But - are there enough noob surfers in the middle ground, seeing the word "tube" and peeing their pants, to make it worthwhile?

I take on too many dumbass projects as it is, I'm trying to knock off my to-try list, projects which are non-starters. To me, as someone who stares at this stuff day in day out, I can't for the life of me see how it can make much bank doing it this way, but I could very easily be wrong.

What's your 2 cents?

Davy · 09-19-2009, 03:26 AM

Tubes are essentially just like TGPs. You need to constantly update them with fresh content.
You will very soon run out of content for your niche.
For example, I have a quite good domain for a cum/facial/bukkake tube site. There's only a limited amount of sponsors for that niche, though.

CunningStunt · 09-19-2009, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy

Tubes are essentially just like TGPs. You need to constantly update them with fresh content.
You will very soon run out of content for your niche.
For example, I have a quite good domain for a cum/facial/bukkake tube site. There's only a limited amount of sponsors for that niche, though.

I appreciate what you say, but if you don't target a specific niche, and have enough traffic heading into that one tube from other sites, then it's easy to grab a script, pull in over 100K movies to the site, and have it on an auto rotate so the site always looks fresh.

Or am I missing something?

StinkyPink · 09-19-2009, 03:44 AM

There are several reasons tubes work.

If your video gets embedded, usually clicking on the video will go to sponsor, possible sale (depending on who embeds it and where)

If your video gets linked by URL, the surfer will see the large ad above the video first. I generally try to make my ads look more like a skin, though my script limits this ability a lot.

Think of each videos watch page like a gallery on a tgp, only viral.

Against much belief, I make no money off my cams ads in the footer, and I have had several videos embedded and linked to already. And have picked up quite a few joins in its short life.

The fact that most tubes use tags, you ca target your advertising to send surfers to whatever niche or sub-niche you like. The fact that each channel is linked, makes it easier to put a link in the bottom of a gallery or a blog post.

I am still new to this, but I do know that I have spent $10 on a domain, $30 for a years hosting, with great staff. (everything is sponsor hosted except a handful of videos, so no worries of crashing anything until I get ubers of traffic). And I have made over $200 in the first month with very little, very targeted traffic (I link mostly to categories and channels as stated above... rarely to the main page).

Let's not forgt about community, or web 2.0 features like comments and ratings. That is something that really gets the surfers involved.

It's worth leaving on your list, IMO. At least for now.

BTW, I have already had over 100 SE hits for my domain name or variations of it, which would be probably the only reason for anyone to search the term. So I am already getting word of mouth, it is less than a month old, and honestly my tube is pretty lame.

StinkyPink · 09-19-2009, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

I appreciate what you say, but if you don't target a specific niche, and have enough traffic heading into that one tube from other sites, then it's easy to grab a script, pull in over 100K movies to the site, and have it on an auto rotate so the site always looks fresh.

Or am I missing something?

Not that easy, unless you disable all view counts and ratings.

Most scripts are setup to rotate on their own, provided the traffic factor is there. You can display most viewed, most rated, most recent or average clicks. Maybe some scripts have even more options, like a random main page that shows only videos with 0 views, making it look fresh. Also, many scripts are setup with XML feeds that will add sponsors content on a regular basis.

CunningStunt · 09-19-2009, 08:44 PM

It's very easy to falsify the votes and views backend, as well as preload 500 phrases into the database for the comments.

Barefootsies · 09-19-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

It's very easy to falsify the votes and views backend, as well as preload 500 phrases into the database for the comments.

Correct.

StinkyPink · 09-19-2009, 09:40 PM

I stand corrected, I didn't think of it that way.

09-19-2009, 02:41 AM	#1
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Is there much point writing a FAKE TUBE SITE these days? By fake, I mean, non stolen content. You get your script of choice, brand up a domain, fill it full of thousands of sponsor galleries, promote it throughout your network of hundreds of sites, funnel the traffic to it, try and make bank on anything non-porn you can think of that actually can't be stolen - cams, pills, products, and hey presto, loads of dough? It seems to me that surfers are getting more and more cluey, and will spot promo only short sponsor videos a mile off. They are not going to bookmark a site (keep coming back, and hopefully buy some shiz) that contains only those. But - are there enough noob surfers in the middle ground, seeing the word "tube" and peeing their pants, to make it worthwhile? I take on too many dumbass projects as it is, I'm trying to knock off my to-try list, projects which are non-starters. To me, as someone who stares at this stuff day in day out, I can't for the life of me see how it can make much bank doing it this way, but I could very easily be wrong. What's your 2 cents?

09-19-2009, 03:26 AM	#2
Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	Tubes are essentially just like TGPs. You need to constantly update them with fresh content. You will very soon run out of content for your niche. For example, I have a quite good domain for a cum/facial/bukkake tube site. There's only a limited amount of sponsors for that niche, though. __________________ --- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

09-19-2009, 03:44 AM	#4
StinkyPink It's all goooood. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Hoe Stroll Posts: 1,591	There are several reasons tubes work. If your video gets embedded, usually clicking on the video will go to sponsor, possible sale (depending on who embeds it and where) If your video gets linked by URL, the surfer will see the large ad above the video first. I generally try to make my ads look more like a skin, though my script limits this ability a lot. Think of each videos watch page like a gallery on a tgp, only viral. Against much belief, I make no money off my cams ads in the footer, and I have had several videos embedded and linked to already. And have picked up quite a few joins in its short life. The fact that most tubes use tags, you ca target your advertising to send surfers to whatever niche or sub-niche you like. The fact that each channel is linked, makes it easier to put a link in the bottom of a gallery or a blog post. I am still new to this, but I do know that I have spent $10 on a domain, $30 for a years hosting, with great staff. (everything is sponsor hosted except a handful of videos, so no worries of crashing anything until I get ubers of traffic). And I have made over $200 in the first month with very little, very targeted traffic (I link mostly to categories and channels as stated above... rarely to the main page). Let's not forgt about community, or web 2.0 features like comments and ratings. That is something that really gets the surfers involved. It's worth leaving on your list, IMO. At least for now. BTW, I have already had over 100 SE hits for my domain name or variations of it, which would be probably the only reason for anyone to search the term. So I am already getting word of mouth, it is less than a month old, and honestly my tube is pretty lame.

09-19-2009, 08:44 PM	#6
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	It's very easy to falsify the votes and views backend, as well as preload 500 phrases into the database for the comments.

09-19-2009, 09:40 PM	#8
StinkyPink It's all goooood. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Hoe Stroll Posts: 1,591	I stand corrected, I didn't think of it that way.