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ProG · 09-23-2009, 09:59 AM

Shap sleeping with the enemy, what else is new...

Barefootsies · 09-23-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ProG

Shap sleeping with the enemy, what else is new...

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-23-2009, 10:00 AM

Edit: missed hunnards

Barefootsies · 09-23-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by area51

Edit: missed hunnards

Shap · 09-23-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

Do you actually believe the shit that oozes out of your mouth?

nobody has said shit about it?

you're not on your game today shapster, how much money you wanna drop to back those words up?

WTF are you talking about? How is that shit?

Shap · 09-23-2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think you just did

I dont think those theories i posted hold much water, but thats what i would be thinking as a stockholder. gfy is still an influential place, why are they not using it to halt their plummeting stock ? and instead doing things that only seem to hasten the falling value of playboy.

I cant think of many other companies selling ads for companies that steal their product. Not any profitable ones anyways.

Eric will be the first to tell you in terms of PLayboy and their stock GFY isn't even on the radar. The stock is down because their core business is in a free fall and is not coming back.

Cyber Fucker · 09-23-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch

lol

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-23-2009, 10:08 AM

Jdoughs · 09-23-2009, 10:11 AM

Now back to your scheduled bullshitting.

BVF · 09-23-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I guess my question is why should I give a shit about anybody else in this industry when they never give a shit about the end user. The end user is what propels and fuels everything we all do. For years they've been abused and the message was FUCK THE SURFER I only care about the $$$.

When did anybody in this industry care about ethics and morals? I've always tried to stand up for the one person that keeps us all in this business. Everybody said Shut the fuck up and rape that guy. Now that I do business with someone who is following a law, one that really sucks, I'm a dickhead who doesn't care about the industry.

The one big downside to the low cost of entry to our industry is that it's filled with a bunch of retards.

If you want to say that you don't give a fuck, just say that you don't give a fuck....Don't make up a story about how nobody cared about the end user because that's utter nonsense...I've ALWAYS cared about my customer and you USED TO make it a point to blab about how much you "spoiled" your customers.....

Just say you don't give a fuck and be done with it....

topnotch, standup guy · 09-23-2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

I guess my question is why should I give a shit about anybody else in this industry when they never give a shit about the end user. The end user is what propels and fuels everything we all do. For years they've been abused and the message was FUCK THE SURFER I only care about the $$$.

When did anybody in this industry care about ethics and morals? I've always tried to stand up for the one person that keeps us all in this business. Everybody said Shut the fuck up and rape that guy. Now that I do business with someone who is following a law, one that really sucks, I'm a dickhead who doesn't care about the industry.

The one big downside to the low cost of entry to our industry is that it's filled with a bunch of retards.

Generalize much?

There's been lots of threads here calling out programs for hidden cross sales, banging cards, installing trojans and the like. Guess maybe you didn't see any of those threads, eh?

To hear you say it everyone who ain't sleeping with the tubes is a cardbanger or worse.

Do you really think we're all that fucking stupid?

RyuLion · 09-23-2009, 10:16 AM

yawwwnnnnn...

BV · 09-23-2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

WTF are you talking about? How is that shit?

In that reply I am referring about what you said in post 86 of this thread: quote shap: Because for the past 10 years a shitload of programs have been stealing from the client and nobody has said shit about it.

That's bullshit. and you probably believe it because you are one of the you can't beat them join them types that would sell his soul to the devil if it would put another dollar in your pocket.

FYI: When you're on the dark side it's harder to see the light.

BVF · 09-23-2009, 10:17 AM

In fact, I remember a thread where Shap was whining about some webcam stuff that went awry in his members area and he was about to shit a brick when the customers complained and was ready to chop the head off of whoever the dude he made the deal with that fucked up.

BV · 09-23-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Generalize much?

There's been lots of threads here calling out programs for hidden cross sales, banging cards, installing trojans and the like. Guess maybe you didn't see any of those threads, eh?

To hear you say it everyone who ain't sleeping with the tubes is a cardbanger or worse.

Do you really think we're all that fucking stupid?

thank you, you caught that also

Boozer · 09-23-2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

They do post upload our content. The tubes we don't work with that do that force us to monitor and send them notices daily. The tubes we work with play by our rules.

I'm sure I spend far more on content than you do and have far more to lose or gain from their actions.

Btw it's "you're" not your. I love being called an idiot by a true idiot.

LOL.. Actually he was using "your" in its correct form.. "You're" the idiot on this one

BV · 09-23-2009, 10:21 AM

where did shap go? chirp chirp

probably douching his ass out

Semi-Retired-Dave · 09-23-2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Dave I think you know I respect you. I didn't see your post when I started my other thread. For that I apologize. I was in a fuck with the gfy mob mood last night.

I guess my view of the situation is that 2010 is around the corner. There has been tube bitching for about 3 years now. Nothing has changed. Nothing is going to change. Most gfy sponsors are doing business with the people that bought the skin. Why should GFY turn away the dollars when their own sponsors don't?

Shap, I respect you as well (At Times) but what I don't understand is for someone like you, your reputation, the quality of Sites you own. You have one of the best if not the best photographers and have used him for years (Dean Capture) he is not cheap but worth every penny. Your sites are amazing. But why do you spend so much time and money to make them look like they do if you know they aren't converting like they used to? I own Played out AVS sites which people think have died a decade ago. They still makes amazing sales and I still put quality photos and Videos weekly for new members and for existing members that we have had for over 8 - 10 years. I'm proud of the quality that we put in our sites but to see a free script go up and take away majority of the sales we all worked so hard for yes, It pisses me off. (Especially when it's with our content)

I understand that you are saying, fuck it, it's happened, nobody did anything about it lets move on. Some of us don't stand that ground. We just had the biggest fire in Southern California History that just started down the street from my house. Did I say fuck it, lets pour fuel in the fire and let it burn. No, people stepped in and did their best to put it out and help each other.

Yes, I think it's a little too late because the Tube sites did pour in and I don't think one Company could have stopped them. But just because it's happening we shouldn't be quiet about it.

I like our business, I"m proud of it and I will help it stay strong and lucrative as long as I can. I care for the Affiliates, because they made us who we are and we have never missed sending a check since 96' I care about the customers that is why we have had our own in-house processing and in-house customer service since day one. This is our life. We don't want it to go away because of Scum bugs that want to fuck everyone over for some Advertising money.

But every fucking time I ask someone now where they go for porn, they always mention one of the big FREE TUBE sites and that PISSES ME OFF!!!

Do I think GFY should have turned down this Skin....YES. I don't advertise here now but I used to for a long time and as of a few weeks ago, I did talk to Eric and I was going to again.

Just sad that it's come to this. Very Sad!

L-Pink · 09-23-2009, 10:23 AM

A thief is a thief. Period.

Anyone who tries to justify business dealings with a known thief is pitiful.

Fuck you playboy. Fuck you gfy management. You are pitiful.

.

czarina · 09-23-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gasper

moneeeeeeeeeey

money indeed

sextoyking · 09-23-2009, 10:27 AM

Well said Dave.

This our industry and backyard - I like working in our industry....

Shap · 09-23-2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boozer

LOL.. Actually he was using "your" in its correct form.. "You're" the idiot on this one

Really? He said your an idiot. How is that correct?

Fletch XXX · 09-23-2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

probably douching his ass out

this made me LOL for realz

czarina · 09-23-2009, 10:28 AM

by the way, one way to help is NOT to click on their link on top.

Robocrop · 09-23-2009, 10:29 AM

Shap stole my bike.

btw did Twistys win hardsextube? ....

Shap · 09-23-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

where did shap go? chirp chirp

probably douching his ass out

Packing. I have a flight to catch in an hour LOL

Boozer · 09-23-2009, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Really? He said your an idiot. How is that correct?

He said "your" content.. correct

Not you're content, which essentially means "you are content" make sense?

I see what you are saying.. You were correct. I was wrong.. I stand corrected.

Shap · 09-23-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boozer

He said "your" content.. correct

Not you're content, which essentially means "you are content" make sense?

You must have trouble reading. Go back you'll see what I was commenting on. You are nitpicking and doing a shit job at that. If you are going to nitpick get your facts straight.

Shap · 09-23-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boozer

He said "your" content.. correct

Not you're content, which essentially means "you are content" make sense?

I wasn't commenting on him saying your content.

Robocrop · 09-23-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boozer

He said "your" content.. correct

Not you're content, which essentially means "you are content" make sense?

Robocrop · 09-23-2009, 10:35 AM

"you're A...idiot"
"your content"
"my dick in your mouth"

And I am not even english

sextoyking · 09-23-2009, 10:36 AM

I was never the best speller

LOL

alias · 09-23-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop

"you're A...idiot"

And I am not even english

FYI: This one should actually be you're an idiot.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 09-23-2009, 10:37 AM

I posted this on the other Thread, I'll add it here as well.

--------------------------

Shap, I respect you as well (At Times) but what I don't understand is for someone like you, your reputation, the quality of Sites you own. You have one of the best if not the best photographers and have used him for years (Dean Capture) he is not cheap but worth every penny. Your sites are amazing. But why do you spend so much time and money to make them look like they do if you know they aren't converting like they used to? I own Played out AVS sites which people think have died a decade ago. They still makes amazing sales and I still put quality photos and Videos weekly for new members and for existing members that we have had for over 8 - 10 years. I'm proud of the quality that we put in our sites but to see a free script go up and take away majority of the sales we all worked so hard for yes, It pisses me off. (Especially when it's with our content)

I understand that you are saying, fuck it, it's happened, nobody did anything about it lets move on. Some of us don't stand that ground. We just had the biggest fire in Southern California History that just started down the street from my house. Did I say fuck it, lets pour fuel in the fire and let it burn. No, people stepped in and did their best to put it out and help each other.

Yes, I think it's a little too late because the Tube sites did pour in and I don't think one Company could have stopped them. But just because it's happening we shouldn't be quiet about it.

I like our business, I"m proud of it and I will help it stay strong and lucrative as long as I can. I care for the Affiliates, because they made us who we are and we have never missed sending a check since 96' I care about the customers that is why we have had our own in-house processing and in-house customer service since day one. This is our life. We don't want it to go away because of Scum bugs that want to fuck everyone over for some Advertising money.

But every fucking time I ask someone now where they go for porn, they always mention one of the big FREE TUBE sites and that PISSES ME OFF!!!

Do I think GFY should have turned down this Skin....YES. I don't advertise here now but I used to for a long time and as of a few weeks ago, I did talk to Eric and I was going to again.

Just sad that it's come to this. Very Sad!

NewNick · 09-23-2009, 10:37 AM

You guys having a pissing contest are obviously much smarter than me, but can you not see what is happening here ?

The tubes had to go to GFY to sell their traffic ? You all seem to think they did this as some kind final insult.

Do you really think that they would be here unless IT WAS THEIR LAST RESORT.

Come on think about it ? Where are the pre-paid ad spots on pornhub ? They have run out of buyers !

And barefoootsies keeps saying that this is a business, and yes it is, a business where you have to pay your bills, you cannot just keep on giving it away. Not even if you stole it in the first place. You still have to pay the rent.

Today is a good day.

Robocrop · 09-23-2009, 10:38 AM

Tubes are good in a way.

Robocrop · 09-23-2009, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias

FYI: This one should actually be you're an idiot.

Yes I know, I couldnt be arsed to write it all..call me lazy

JP-pornshooter · 09-23-2009, 10:41 AM

isnt this forum open to everyone?
i mean if the devil himself wanted to pay for an add, it would be ok as long as he/she paid for it, right?
Shap is smart enough to stay close to his enemies..
tubesites are no different than "freesites" as long as the content is provided by the programs it is promoting.. if they use illegal content, then the copyright owner must fight it or roll over.. dont expect the adult industry to stand strong together, you are all competition to each other..

ProG · 09-23-2009, 10:42 AM

Man, I'm going to make a killing on dating sites with all this Twistys content on my tube.

quiet · 09-23-2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Really? He said your an idiot. How is that correct?

too funny

Tom_PM · 09-23-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop

Tubes are good in a way.

OMG!!!!!

Someone actually saved the video for abacab? Good lord

Dirty Dane · 09-23-2009, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Not only that look at this

http://ns1.tube8.com/

I get 404 on this link. What is/was it?

fris · 09-23-2009, 10:50 AM

Shap, Trafficjunky is Brazzers, thought that was common knowledge, Since they only sell for sites that brazzers owns.

Same offices.

Nicky · 09-23-2009, 10:51 AM

Oh well, drama llama as usual. I'll go do some work now.

ProG · 09-23-2009, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

I get 404 on this link. What is/was it?

It was advertising "lolita sex"

Jdoughs · 09-23-2009, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

I get 404 on this link. What is/was it?

Starts with Lol and ends with ita.

Scott McD · 09-23-2009, 10:56 AM

This could go on for a few days (at least)...

nico-t · 09-23-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

I get 404 on this link. What is/was it?

check the "Apache/1.3.31 Server at.. " line on the 404 page

Barefootsies · 09-23-2009, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

dont expect the adult industry to stand strong together, you are all competition to each other..

Fighting over a smaller pie.

ProG · 09-23-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

Shap, Trafficjunky is Brazzers, thought that was common knowledge, Since they only sell for sites that brazzers owns.

Same offices.

Shap has 140 trailers on PornHub, I think he knows more about that company than anyone else here. He just likes to play dumb.

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	A thief is a thief. Period. Anyone who tries to justify business dealings with a known thief is pitiful. Fuck you playboy. Fuck you gfy management. You are pitiful. .

09-23-2009, 10:28 AM	#124
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09-23-2009, 10:29 AM	#125
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09-23-2009, 10:37 AM	#134
Semi-Retired-Dave Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LA Posts: 11,190	I posted this on the other Thread, I'll add it here as well. -------------------------- Shap, I respect you as well (At Times) but what I don't understand is for someone like you, your reputation, the quality of Sites you own. You have one of the best if not the best photographers and have used him for years (Dean Capture) he is not cheap but worth every penny. Your sites are amazing. But why do you spend so much time and money to make them look like they do if you know they aren't converting like they used to? I own Played out AVS sites which people think have died a decade ago. They still makes amazing sales and I still put quality photos and Videos weekly for new members and for existing members that we have had for over 8 - 10 years. I'm proud of the quality that we put in our sites but to see a free script go up and take away majority of the sales we all worked so hard for yes, It pisses me off. (Especially when it's with our content) I understand that you are saying, fuck it, it's happened, nobody did anything about it lets move on. Some of us don't stand that ground. We just had the biggest fire in Southern California History that just started down the street from my house. Did I say fuck it, lets pour fuel in the fire and let it burn. No, people stepped in and did their best to put it out and help each other. Yes, I think it's a little too late because the Tube sites did pour in and I don't think one Company could have stopped them. But just because it's happening we shouldn't be quiet about it. I like our business, I"m proud of it and I will help it stay strong and lucrative as long as I can. I care for the Affiliates, because they made us who we are and we have never missed sending a check since 96' I care about the customers that is why we have had our own in-house processing and in-house customer service since day one. This is our life. We don't want it to go away because of Scum bugs that want to fuck everyone over for some Advertising money. But every fucking time I ask someone now where they go for porn, they always mention one of the big FREE TUBE sites and that PISSES ME OFF!!! Do I think GFY should have turned down this Skin....YES. I don't advertise here now but I used to for a long time and as of a few weeks ago, I did talk to Eric and I was going to again. Just sad that it's come to this. Very Sad! __________________ Support a Good Cause

09-23-2009, 10:37 AM	#135
NewNick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7,033	You guys having a pissing contest are obviously much smarter than me, but can you not see what is happening here ? The tubes had to go to GFY to sell their traffic ? You all seem to think they did this as some kind final insult. Do you really think that they would be here unless IT WAS THEIR LAST RESORT. Come on think about it ? Where are the pre-paid ad spots on pornhub ? They have run out of buyers ! And barefoootsies keeps saying that this is a business, and yes it is, a business where you have to pay your bills, you cannot just keep on giving it away. Not even if you stole it in the first place. You still have to pay the rent. Today is a good day.

09-23-2009, 10:38 AM	#136
Robocrop Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hollywood Posts: 2,785	Tubes are good in a way.

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JP-pornshooter Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: westcoast usa Posts: 4,007	isnt this forum open to everyone? i mean if the devil himself wanted to pay for an add, it would be ok as long as he/she paid for it, right? Shap is smart enough to stay close to his enemies.. tubesites are no different than "freesites" as long as the content is provided by the programs it is promoting.. if they use illegal content, then the copyright owner must fight it or roll over.. dont expect the adult industry to stand strong together, you are all competition to each other.. __________________ "Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown

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09-23-2009, 10:50 AM	#143
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09-23-2009, 10:56 AM	#147
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