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Old 10-22-2009, 08:32 PM   #151
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:37 PM   #152
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class was pretty intense, the warm up really got my heart going. We learned the basic stance today, and the basic kick and punch along with an elbow strike. Practiced each with a partner. at the end of each class they do a group exercise to get you used to fighting multiple people and perseverance to not give up. Today's exercise had everyone in a circle and you had to punch elbow and kick everyone surrounding you.

It was quite the workout for a first lesson, kind of kicked my ass. I really enjoyed it, ended up signing up for classes twice a week.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:28 PM   #153
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That is a stupid comment...

First : Royce wasn't the best of the gracies. He was chosen for many reasons, including his marketability. He was fighting agaisn't heavyweight olympic wrestlers for christ sake, he wasn't a better fighter then they were... he was more technical from his back.

Second : The gracie BJJ aera lasted for quite some time. At the time it WAS the best system at the because people wouldn't know how to defend it.

Put a BJJ blue belt agaisn't a TKD black belt, the blue belt wins 90 % of the time. Joe Rogan himself, who is a TKD black belt, said himself that TKD was almost totally useless in a fight agaisn't a skilled MMA fighter.

If you are street fighting, you take way less chances of getting it if you're a wrestler/bjj guy.
The thing is, everyone knows TKD is pure bullshit and worthless from a self defense perspective. For some reason though it's the red herring that every BJJ person pulls out of their ass to "prove" that all other martial arts are inferior.

I'm not gonna get into the weeds with you on this, I put Anthony on ignore for that very reason, I could give a fuck who studied what under whom and who pinned whom and armbarred whom and therefore BJJ'ers have bigger dicks than everyone else blah blah blah.

I'm just trying to say, put things into perspective.
I'm pretty sure we can all agree that the best fighter will have a solid grasp of both striking and grappling. If you're really good at one but suck at the other, then you're at the very best an incomplete fighter.
As far as I know, there is no striking in BJJ.

So all I'm saying is that it's possible that a person who is studying martial arts for purposes other than to be a professional MMA fighter, could be better off studying something that teaches both grappling AND striking, as well as other things, even if on an individual basis it's grappling is inferior to BJJ and it's striking is inferior to Muy Thai.
For the casual student wanting some self defense skills and physical fitness, it's possible that they'll be better off with something else.

Of course, some people have BJJ tourette's and if you bring up anything other than BJJ in a martial arts or self defense discussion, then you're an idiot and a pussy and you're destined to get your ass beat, and of course if you're talking to Anthony then you're in for a name dropping orgy that even KB couldn't keep up with.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:28 AM   #154
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The thing is, everyone knows TKD is pure bullshit and worthless from a self defense perspective. For some reason though it's the red herring that every BJJ person pulls out of their ass to "prove" that all other martial arts are inferior.

I'm not gonna get into the weeds with you on this, I put Anthony on ignore for that very reason, I could give a fuck who studied what under whom and who pinned whom and armbarred whom and therefore BJJ'ers have bigger dicks than everyone else blah blah blah.

I'm just trying to say, put things into perspective.
I'm pretty sure we can all agree that the best fighter will have a solid grasp of both striking and grappling. If you're really good at one but suck at the other, then you're at the very best an incomplete fighter.
As far as I know, there is no striking in BJJ.

So all I'm saying is that it's possible that a person who is studying martial arts for purposes other than to be a professional MMA fighter, could be better off studying something that teaches both grappling AND striking, as well as other things, even if on an individual basis it's grappling is inferior to BJJ and it's striking is inferior to Muy Thai.
For the casual student wanting some self defense skills and physical fitness, it's possible that they'll be better off with something else.

Of course, some people have BJJ tourette's and if you bring up anything other than BJJ in a martial arts or self defense discussion, then you're an idiot and a pussy and you're destined to get your ass beat, and of course if you're talking to Anthony then you're in for a name dropping orgy that even KB couldn't keep up with.
Again Snake Doctor, aka Lenny2, aka Ignorant Fuck talks shit about a subject he has no clue about. There are numerous examples on the web of BJJ being superior, UFC 1 - 4 opened up EVERYONE's eyes that you need BJJ to become a complete fighter. Being able to throw punches or kicks got your ass beat. But keep digging your head up to your fourth chin about that Lenny, you've been proven to be an idiot, it won't change a thing.

More history and facts for Snake Doctor, MMA came from VALE TUDO from BRAZIL. GUESS WHO CAME OUT ON TOP OF THOSE FIGHTS MORON? That's right, Jiu Jitsu. Guess what, BJJ has punches.

There are three types of Jiu Jitsu.

1. Gi - Complete Submission based, no strikes

2. No Gi - Complete Submission based with no strikes

3. Vale Tudo - Some BJJ Schools have a Vale Tudo/MMA program.

Your ignorance knows no bounds. As for pussy who's going to get my ass beat, it sure won't be from your fat, no training, pissed off at being a bitch ass..
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