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Ask me anything for the next 2 hours...
Thats right two hours this week i will check back every 5 minutes or so go wild.
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Isn't Toronto turning into a big gay area?
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What happened with your job at Twistys, fired?
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Not that i know of no different than normal
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Pretty well overall I think it could do better than it is but i think that of all our sites.
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LOL i dont think i could get fired if i tried, however i still work for Shap. email me at michael at twistys.com
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Why did you remove them from your sig
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Bored honestly i had the same sig for the last 3 years with some small changes so changed it up.
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Who has the best traffic out there that you know of (Quality and price wise)??? You can ICQ me this info if you want ;)
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Okay, I have an advertising budget of $300 (perhaps willing to go a couple hundred higher) to spend for a single month. My goal (obviously) is to make sales for my paysites. So: how do I spend it? Buying ads? Where? Buying traffic? Been there, done that, mostly sucks don't wanna do it again. So NON-traffic buying ideas please?
I saw Elephants is charging $79 for a month's submissions. How does that work? Pay them $79 and I get to submit to their TGP? What if I don't make any sales? LOL Any sites I should buy banners on? Ad spaces? Hard links? In short, where can I get the best bang for my buck(s)? Thanks dude - you rock! (As does Twistys - been yankin' it to Twistys for eons!) - Mr. P.
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Did they fake the moon landing?
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hmm quality and price, depends on what you are selling really traffic to me never has a quality level it depends on how you sell, for instance if i was buying higher "skim" traffic i would be more agressive with a shorter fold join option and a faster thru put on forms, than i would for say google referrer ;) for a specific site that i have always liked buying from worldsex.com is great never lets me down. (Pierre you can give me a discount any time you read this)
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I'll be in Toronto next weekend, how's the weather?
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Budget 300 -mix up your purchases -buy 150 worth of submit accounts and 150 worth of direct ads - submit accounts buy elephant and worldsex for one month (have your galleries ready in advance and your hosting worked out before starting also be prepared to submit for two months with 0 return) (also on galleries less design is better FHG are a terrible example of how to get sales out of gallery traffic just an fyi) -buy direct spots at tops of tgps if possible medium to small is ok if you get a top spot banner that is all branding, and is niche matching yours. - For the elephants question you may not make sales your first month you need to learn about two things gallery click thru rates, and then paysite click thru rates they are two different goals. One the gallery's goal is to get traffic to the tour, its the tours job to sell, so if you can lower your price and streamline your join process on your own traffic cut the membership price to half or whatever you would make on your own ;) Last part answered a few sites that i like.
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Which one? if you mean the one that was on TV my personal opinion is no they didnt fake it.
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Cold and rainy today
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"For the elephants question you may not make sales your first month you need to learn about two things gallery click thru rates, and then paysite click thru rates they are two different goals. One the gallery's goal is to get traffic to the tour, its the tours job to sell, so if you can lower your price and streamline your join process on your own traffic cut the membership price to half or whatever you would make on your own ;)"
Okay, so I understand about gallery traffic rates and conversion rates (believe me, I know the conversion rates for all my sites cold). But I didn't understand what you meant about 'lowering the price' and 'streamlining the Join process'. 1. The price is set as one price gets you into the entire network. Plus, I have to split with models, partners, affiliates, then there's hosting fees, video feeds fees, on and on. The pie is only so big and therefore I cannot cut my membership price. 2. The Join process IS fairly simple as it is: click 'Join' or 'Instant Access' and get taken directly to the CCBill signup form. Can't get much more streamlined then that, can it? Also: If it takes two months to get any sales then the first two months are what, a waste? Or do these TGPs have a 'cumulative' affect? I mean, why 2 months and not right away? If the tour does it's job then sales should come sooner, no?
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Last question (for today):
Where should I go to shoot hardcore content on the 'cheap' (meaning: under $300 for the female talent)? Canada? Where? The US? Where? I can't afford 'pro' prices of $800-$1000 per scene. I'd be the 'stunt cock' shooting everything in POV. Thanks again awesome one!
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due to the economy and the shift in our industry re: traffic, etc, i recently back-burnered a micro-niched site project i started working on a few months ago and have invested ~$2k in. it needs about another $8k to launch. should i continue to hold-off until traffic and such get sorted out or should i go for it now and take the risk with the $8k?
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2. this page (http://www.themisterpeabody.com/ccbill/index.htm) can be done 100% better you can completely change it and make it a much better more standard experience) also you need to have a join option higher on your tour so the minute it loads someone can click join. Also: it may not take two months to get sales but will take that amount of time to build up traffic to your site. And yes it does have a cumulative effect. (you should get sales right off the bat however most tgps dont approve every gallery so you would have some back and forth.)
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Why do you think he moved there?
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dang really? well, i don't see why not eh.
should i invest some ad dollars in tube traffic? or stick with niched tgp/mgp? maybe even a large mgp or 2? this is also a non-affiliate based business plan. the site will offer micro-payments to puchase individual scenes (movie and/or pics) and a subscription option to get access to everything( i am thinking of making the subscription side streaming only) what are your thoughts on that? thx ![]() |
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Wanted to stay far away from you actually :P
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what sites/products work best on a gay tube?
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Wrong city, in that case. Didn't I tell you I have relatives in Toronto? :P
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Thanks dude!! GREAT advice!!
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We push a ton of programs as I always believe in rebills we push a lot of smaller ccbill sites or epoch affilaite sites, things that are unique, i dont push stupid ass re hashed content unless its BULK ie dvd site, so overall CCBill sites (but thats a shit load of sites) then intense cash those guys really kill it for us we do under 1:200 non stop, and rebill for ages.
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OMG i am moving back to Vancouver fuck i thought we had a no swedes law?
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whats your thoughts on girls using plungers?
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Hey man - can you hit me on ICQ when you have a sec?
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If you could visit any city in the world where would you go and why?
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Will try in a minute
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I like a mix for actual usage videosz.com (i like what they did with thirdmovies.com the feel to that site is really nice.) is really friendly but i think they and brazzers have the same problem trying to give too many options to the surfer on one page, not letting the member navigate and "flow thru the site" I would prefer a simpler main page with a lot of search relevance and time spent on that.
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I just ate a whole head of broccoli, do you like broccoli too?
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And thats it for another week of Ask Michael anything.
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Only cause you beat me to the wire yes i like broccoli very much i eat it raw sometimes with dip.
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