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Libertine · 10-10-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

You idiot I'm talking about people getting more desperate by the day and how criminals work.

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

The reality is that guys like this BTK are more and more common every day and the normal people of this country are REALLY STUPID and REALLY ANGRY because of how horrible things have been.. and they're going to get worse (the situation and these people)

Sounds to me like you're most definitely saying that serial killers are getting more common. Having trouble getting your delusions straight?

Aside from that, you might find it interesting that murder rates have actually largely been dropping in the past decade and a half, not rising.

MrMaxwell · 10-10-2009, 06:54 PM

http://bjstudio.com/101009_204.mov
"Libertine"
You miserable fucking FUCK

MrMaxwell · 10-10-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by libertine

sounds to me like you're most definitely saying that serial killers are getting more common. Having trouble getting your delusions straight?

Aside from that, you might find it interesting that murder rates have actually largely been dropping in the past decade and a half, not rising.

not where they have gun bans the murder rates don't drop.. They quadruple.. Ask the people in dc

serial killers are more common, maybe and maybe not, fucked up in the head motherfuckers sure as hell are.. Look at all the doctors pimping drugs and look how desperate people are

you want to debate, fine, don't you dare call me a lunatic for believing in the rights and protection of innocent people you motherfucker you

Libertine · 10-10-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

I stopped a convenience store robbery from happening.
The kid was sixteen or eighteen and looked twelve and was working alone at two or three in the morning. I saved his ass.

But I am a god damned lunatic,
Go fuck yourself you scumbag.

Myself and alot of other good people would not be alive if not for the proper use of firearms. Trash like you wants to take that right away from me because you're ignorant fucking morons who've never had to go through SHIT. Well I HAVE you asshole. I'm not a LUNATIC. Call me a LUNATIC when I save your ASS sometime. You FUCK!

Yep, you definitely sound like the balanced, anger-free type of individual who should be going around carrying a weapon. Not a hint of craziness and excessive anger in there at all.

You might want to get those delusions of grandeur looked at, though. Preferably on the inside of a mental institution.

Libertine · 10-10-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

not where they have gun bans the murder rates don't drop.. They quadruple.. Ask the people in dc

serial killers are more common, maybe and maybe not, fucked up in the head motherfuckers sure as hell are.. Look at all the doctors pimping drugs and look how desperate people are

you want to debate, fine, don't you dare call me a lunatic for believing in the rights and protection of innocent people you motherfucker you

So you're now equating doctors with murderers?

Uh, yeah. You're just the epitome of sanity, aren't you?

MrMaxwell · 10-10-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Yep, you definitely sound like the balanced, anger-free type of individual who should be going around carrying a weapon. Not a hint of craziness and excessive anger in there at all.

You might want to get those delusions of grandeur looked at, though. Preferably on the inside of a mental institution.

You're damned right that I'm pissed off at motherfuckers like you who call me a lunatic when I speak out for the rights of good honest people to defend themselves and present some facts .. Call me a lunatic and fault me for being angry with you .. go fuck yourself, that's the standard "I don't have a leg to stand on" bullshit ..

You'd be angry too if you had the brain power to see what's at stake when scum like you wants to run things based on ignorance and emotion

MrMaxwell · 10-10-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

So you're now equating doctors with murderers?

Uh, yeah. You're just the epitome of sanity, aren't you?

No.. but the shit they're giving people is doing interesting and bad things to peoples brains .. Who said I lumped them in with murderers, you fucking idiot?

That's enough talking in circles and outside of sanity you dead in the head retard

Calling me a lunatic instead of refuting ANYTHING I've said is.. or should be.. a hint for you

Libertine · 10-10-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

No.. but the shit they're giving people is doing interesting and bad things to peoples brains .. Who said I lumped them in with murderers, you fucking idiot?

That's enough talking in circles and outside of sanity you dead in the head retard

Calling me a lunatic instead of refuting ANYTHING I've said is.. or should be.. a hint for you

So you're saying doctors are giving people things to mess with their brains?

Interesting... could you perhaps be talking about your own brain?

MrMaxwell · 10-10-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

So you're saying doctors are giving people things to mess with their brains?

Interesting... could you perhaps be talking about your own brain?

Every third commercial is for some kind of legal mind altering chemical, here in the states, you think that it's a good thing??? Really, do you?

Libertine · 10-10-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Every third commercial is for some kind of legal mind altering chemical, here in the states, you think that it's a good thing??? Really, do you?

Well, clearly some people could be helped by meds. Not talking about anyone in particular, of course...

MrMaxwell · 10-10-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

Well, clearly some people could be helped by meds. Not talking about anyone in particular, of course...

Oh look how witty you are.. you got nothing to say but you think you so witty like a real regular fucking wise guy .. right .. look it's you

Libertine · 10-10-2009, 07:34 PM

MrMaxwell, there is a simple reason I don't argue content with you: pretty much everything you say is nonsense. Which is not surprising, considering that you are slightly deranged, obsessed with some serial killer, and seem to get all your information from YouTube.

Just one example:

Remember talking about the homicide rate in DC quadrupling? It's half of what it was 20 years ago.

MrMaxwell · 10-10-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

MrMaxwell, there is a simple reason I don't argue content with you: pretty much everything you say is nonsense. Which is not surprising, considering that you are slightly deranged, obsessed with some serial killer, and seem to get all your information from YouTube.

Just one example:

Remember talking about the homicide rate in DC quadrupling? It's half of what it was 20 years ago.

It's half of what it was because last year the PEOPLE FOUGHT FOR THEIR RIGHT to defend themselves and the ban was repealed.. you stupid fuck

Don't cop out on me nigga you can't argue "content" cause you got none shysta assed bitch,, it is what the fuck it is slut

Libertine · 10-10-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

It's half of what it was because last year the PEOPLE FOUGHT FOR THEIR RIGHT to defend themselves and the ban was repealed.. you stupid fuck

Don't cop out on me nigga you can't argue "content" cause you got none shysta assed bitch,, it is what the fuck it is slut

So the consistent drop since 1993 which led to the numbers being halved was caused by the gun ban being overturned last year?

Yeah, that makes perfect sense - if you're insane.

MrMaxwell · 10-10-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

So the consistent drop since 1993 which led to the numbers being halved was caused by the gun ban being overturned last year?

Yeah, that makes perfect sense - if you're insane.

People stopped giving a fuck about the law.. And started defending themselves.
I doubt that it dropped from '93, let's see some proof.

cykoe6 · 10-10-2009, 09:41 PM

You can argue back and forth endlessly about the overall benefits to society of gun control versus gun rights but that is not the issue. The issue is that the fundamental right to defend yourself is one of the most important elements of a free society..... the founders knew this which is why they specifically protected that right in the Bill of Rights.

Doug E · 10-10-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

People stopped giving a fuck about the law.. And started defending themselves.
I doubt that it dropped from '93, let's see some proof.

Violent crime has dropped consistently since 95 according to this wikipedia entry...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Washington,_D.C.

This one says violent crime and murder numbers have been cut nearly in half...

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/dccrime.htm

Doug E · 10-10-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

You can argue back and forth endlessly about the overall benefits to society of gun control versus gun rights but that is not the issue. The issue is that the fundamental right to defend yourself is one of the most important elements of a free society..... the founders knew this which is why they specifically protected that right in the Bill of Rights.

The forefathers also made the constitution amendable so that it could change with the times and be improved as needed. Defend yourself, sure, but modern firearms are different from the ones back in the day that was written. So was society. Today they create more problems then they solve or at least create enough problems that a blanket ban on citizenry owned guns would be a better thing than every citizen owning a gun.

Superterrorizer · 10-10-2009, 11:26 PM

Since no one has said it yet: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." And I think some of you tried to say that, but you have to realize on GFY you need to dumb shit down a fair bit in order for it to be absorbed. I was going to write more, but then I realized it would be a waste of effort on some of you. Please keep in mind that I am neither for or against gun ownership, it seems to me this guy shot first and asked questions later.

The gun didn't shoot her, Quickdraw McGraw fucking shot her.

JD · 10-10-2009, 11:30 PM

Libertine · 10-11-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

People stopped giving a fuck about the law.. And started defending themselves.
I doubt that it dropped from '93, let's see some proof.

And this is why I don't like arguing with imbeciles like you.

3 posts above the post of yours I'm quoting, I state that it's half of what it was 20 years ago. That statement is a link. You can click it and get the info you're asking for, exact numbers for the past few decades.

If you take a close look, you'll see that murders in DC had been rising before the gun ban, dropped a bit when the gun ban was implemented then stayed at roughly the same level for about a decade, rose sharply during the crack epidemic, then dropped back to something close to their '76 levels between '93 to '08.

To state that the murder rates in DC quadrupled because of the gun ban is absolutely ludicrous. Rather, looking at the numbers the gun ban appears to have reduced murders slightly. What made the numbers jump at one point wasn't the gun ban, but the crack epidemic.

But hey, why let something as simple and boring and facts get in the way of you idiocy, right?

Fletch XXX · 10-11-2009, 07:00 AM

certainly the founding fathers wanted us to have autmatic weapons and heavy artillery in our homes, freedom!

Darkland · 10-11-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Superterrorizer

Since no one has said it yet: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." And I think some of you tried to say that, but you have to realize on GFY you need to dumb shit down a fair bit in order for it to be absorbed. I was going to write more, but then I realized it would be a waste of effort on some of you. Please keep in mind that I am neither for or against gun ownership, it seems to me this guy shot first and asked questions later.

The gun didn't shoot her, Quickdraw McGraw fucking shot her.

Really?

You must not have read the second post in this thread where I stated:

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Guns, knives, baseball bats, screwdrivers, hammers, axes, chainsaws, etc. I don't care what the weapon, they in and of themselves, sitting there on a shelf or kitchen counter or work bench has no ability for malice or forethought. Humans kill humans, the tools by which they choose to do it is irrelevant.

cykoe6 · 10-11-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug E

The forefathers also made the constitution amendable so that it could change with the times and be improved as needed. Defend yourself, sure, but modern firearms are different from the ones back in the day that was written. So was society. Today they create more problems then they solve or at least create enough problems that a blanket ban on citizenry owned guns would be a better thing than every citizen owning a gun.

There is an amendment process. Pass an amendment to repeal the 2nd amendment then.

Young · 10-11-2009, 10:18 AM

What I learned from this thread

1. Baddog doesn't believe in sampling. Apparently 43:1 doesn't mean shit. So if you ever come down with a deadly disease you better reject that 43:1 vaccine since it was only a small sampling.

2. Gun lovers love their guns. So much so that they are blind to hardcore stats/science and they rely on anecdotal evidence (see Baddog) and "interviews with gang members" which they can not even cite because it's probably just more bullshit. Science and facts don't mean shit! It's the same reason that so many die hard (no pun intended) gun owners believe in god and a bunch of other retarded shit.

3. MrMaxwell IS a retard. In another thread today I couldn't understand a word of what the guy was trying to get across. Fucking painful to read. Extremely painful...the man can not form a complete sentence worth shit. And let's not mistake me remembering you from another thread as any type of notoriety. It's because of that god awful homo avatar of yours.

cykoe6 · 10-11-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

2. Gun lovers love their guns. So much so that they are blind to hardcore stats/science and they rely on anecdotal evidence (see Baddog) and "interviews with gang members" which they can not even cite because it's probably just more bullshit. Science and facts don't mean shit! It's the same reason that so many die hard (no pun intended) gun owners believe in god and a bunch of other retarded shit.

I don't believe in in god or any other retarded shit except individual rights and liberty. Often individual liberties are at odds with the supposed "greater good" of society that collectivists and statists spend so much time talking about.

Ironically the same arguments about the "greater good" and "harm to society" are regularly made against porn producers and marketers....... I assume you reject those arguments as tyrannical and "unconstitutional"........ but then again logical consistency is likely not your strong suit.

Darkland · 10-11-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

2. Gun lovers love their guns. So much so that they are blind to hardcore stats/science and they rely on anecdotal evidence (see Baddog) and "interviews with gang members" which they can not even cite because it's probably just more bullshit. Science and facts don't mean shit! It's the same reason that so many die hard (no pun intended) gun owners believe in god and a bunch of other retarded shit.

You are apparently as hardcore an anti-gun advocate as these guys are pro-gun advocates.

First a little airing... I do believe in the right to bear arms and I am far from a gun lover or enthusiast. Yes, I do own a handgun and a shotgun. The shotgun for home defense as a handgun is a VERY poor choice for home security and the handgun for when I am out and about as I have a concealed carry license. With my past and background, which does not need aired here, I have more firearm training under my belt than most ever will in a lifetime.

Now... I do believe it should be a lot harder to acquire a firearm. I also believe a one time or annual training session should be required as well as psychological profiles and better background checks. Also making it illegal to buy firearms at gunshows or from private sales that have little or no screening process

With that being said, I want to point out the part of the argument the anti-gun crowd refuses to take into account.

Criminals or the mentally disturbed, which make up a large part of the offenses with a firearm (robbery, murder, etc.). Out of this group a very large portion of them obtained their weapons from illegal sources or poor gun control (gun shows or private gun sales).

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/guns.htm

"According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from:

1. a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
2. a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
3. family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%"

With 3 being the highest percent and ALL illegally obtained or stolen.

http://www.populistamerica.com/da__95__of_gun_related_crimes_committed_with_illeg al_guns

"More than 95 percent of all gun related crimes in the Rochester area are committed with illegal guns. That's what District Attorney Mike Green told NEWS 10NBC Tuesday. So where are all these guns coming from? Police say the guns are generally stolen and come from states that have less stringent gun laws."

Illegal Gun Trafficking

The problem is the anti-gun folks and the pro-gun folks are to set in their thinking to even consider compromise or even to enter into civil debate because they think they are the only ones right.

themadwriter · 10-12-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

I stopped a convenience store robbery from happening.
The kid was sixteen or eighteen and looked twelve and was working alone at two or three in the morning. I saved his ass.

But I am a god damned lunatic,
Go fuck yourself you scumbag.

Myself and alot of other good people would not be alive if not for the proper use of firearms. Trash like you wants to take that right away from me because you're ignorant fucking morons who've never had to go through SHIT. Well I HAVE you asshole. I'm not a LUNATIC. Call me a LUNATIC when I save your ASS sometime. You FUCK!

Hey Mr Maxwell,

pointless for you to argue with someone who up until recently was the owner of an illegitimate 32 caliber hand gun that on more than one occasion had shot the hand gun in his own backyard with complete disregard to neighbors or children and then disposed of the hand gun by throwing it in the trash and ultimately making it easier for the wrong people to get access to it!

One Word can describe this individual "HYPOCRITE"!!!

Darkland · 10-12-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by themadwriter

Hey Mr Maxwell,

pointless for you to argue with someone who up until recently was the owner of an illegitimate 32 caliber hand gun that on more than one occasion had shot the hand gun in his own backyard with complete disregard to neighbors or children and then disposed of the hand gun by throwing it in the trash and ultimately making it easier for the wrong people to get access to it!

One Word can describe this individual "HYPOCRITE"!!!

That was unexpected and interesting... Sounds like you know the guy personally.

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cykoe6 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,499	You can argue back and forth endlessly about the overall benefits to society of gun control versus gun rights but that is not the issue. The issue is that the fundamental right to defend yourself is one of the most important elements of a free society..... the founders knew this which is why they specifically protected that right in the Bill of Rights. __________________ бабки, шлюхи, сила

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10-11-2009, 10:18 AM	#75
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	What I learned from this thread 1. Baddog doesn't believe in sampling. Apparently 43:1 doesn't mean shit. So if you ever come down with a deadly disease you better reject that 43:1 vaccine since it was only a small sampling. 2. Gun lovers love their guns. So much so that they are blind to hardcore stats/science and they rely on anecdotal evidence (see Baddog) and "interviews with gang members" which they can not even cite because it's probably just more bullshit. Science and facts don't mean shit! It's the same reason that so many die hard (no pun intended) gun owners believe in god and a bunch of other retarded shit. 3. MrMaxwell IS a retard. In another thread today I couldn't understand a word of what the guy was trying to get across. Fucking painful to read. Extremely painful...the man can not form a complete sentence worth shit. And let's not mistake me remembering you from another thread as any type of notoriety. It's because of that god awful homo avatar of yours. __________________ ★★★ Last edited by Young; 10-11-2009 at 10:20 AM..

10-10-2009, 06:54 PM	#52
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	http://bjstudio.com/101009_204.mov "Libertine" You miserable fucking FUCK

10-10-2009, 11:26 PM	#69
Superterrorizer Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 509	Since no one has said it yet: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." And I think some of you tried to say that, but you have to realize on GFY you need to dumb shit down a fair bit in order for it to be absorbed. I was going to write more, but then I realized it would be a waste of effort on some of you. Please keep in mind that I am neither for or against gun ownership, it seems to me this guy shot first and asked questions later. The gun didn't shoot her, Quickdraw McGraw fucking shot her.

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